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NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 03:24 AM Oct 2019

So ask yourselves, Republicans ...

… why did your “pResident” betray our allies, the Kurds, knowing he was signing their death warrants?

He’s told you it’s because he wanted to “bring our boys and girls home” from Syria.

Now ask yourselves why a man who is facing impeachment and the mounting evidence against him, and is losing in the polls against Democratic contenders, would do something he knew would outrage his own supporters – but would benefit Vladimir Putin.

Are you still buying the “bring the troops home” thing? Do you really think your “pResident” would jeopardize his re-election by outraging his ‘base’ because he suddenly decided that pulling our troops out of Syria was something that had to be done immediately? Do you think the fact that such an action is Putin’s wet-dream is just an amazing coincidence, and had no bearing on Trump’s decision?

Are you really that stupid? Well, your “pResident” hopes so – in fact, your continuing stupidity is what he’s been counting on all along.

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So ask yourselves, Republicans ... (Original Post) NanceGreggs Oct 2019 OP
I haven't seen any of his supporters outraged by it. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2019 #1
You do understand ... NanceGreggs Oct 2019 #2
You have more faith than I do. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2019 #3
It has nothing to do with 'faith'. NanceGreggs Oct 2019 #4
I hope you're right. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2019 #5
My rabidly pro Trump brother-in-law has been eerily quiet this past week. secondwind Oct 2019 #6
Cui bono, who benefits will usually tell us why bigbrother05 Oct 2019 #7
THE best argument to turn many trump voters. Trumpanzees, tho', won't even get this in translation. ancianita Oct 2019 #8
You've been in overdrive here the last couple of days pecosbob Oct 2019 #9

BlueTsunami2018

(3,492 posts)
1. I haven't seen any of his supporters outraged by it.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 04:07 AM
Oct 2019

I’m in a “mixed” Facebook political group. Which, of course, means fifty right wingers and two lefties. The liberals all bailed because there’s no talking to these people. And none of the Republicans are upset at all by this. They’re all taking the stance that he does. Republicans just don’t care, they’re hard core Тяцмр cultists. Everything from Russia to the Saudis to Ukraine to this latest debacle are looked at through the Fox/Limbaugh prism. He’s done nothing wrong, hasn’t lied about anything and is just fulfilling his promises. Anything from straight news sources is biased or fake. It’s Hillary and Biden who are corrupt and the media just wont report on it because they hate Тяцмр.

And that goes for all of my family and friends who support the asshole too.

I don’t know who you’re talking about when you say people in his base are outraged, they aren’t. Any elected Republican who has said anything at all about it is a RINO or traitor who needs to be primaried.

These people are dedicated to Тяцмр heart and soul. Maybe somewhere out there is a Republican with a conscience but I don’t see any.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
2. You do understand ...
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 04:39 AM
Oct 2019

... most Trump supporters don't post on political websites at all, and only a certain type of Trump-humper does so in order to defend their messiah?

That's why trying to determine what Trump's 'base' is thinking about anything by what you see on discussion boards is poor science.

Besides, the usual kiss-ass Trump supporters in his own party (e.g. Lindsay Graham) are being quite outspoken about their outrage - which means their devoted constituents will follow their lead.

I have a sister living in SC. She's a Republican, a Trump supporter, and thinks the sun shines out of Lindsey's ass. If Lindsey is outraged, my sister is outraged. She'll go where led.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,492 posts)
3. You have more faith than I do.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 04:48 AM
Oct 2019

I don’t know most of these people in real life so that’s how I take the temperature. They’re from all points of the country and they walk in total lockstep. I’d put my money on these people following him than any senator or rep who goes against him.

But, again, there must be some out there. I hope so anyway.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
4. It has nothing to do with 'faith'.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 05:19 AM
Oct 2019

What it has to do with is the fact that there are certain types of people who discuss politics on websites, and they are not necessarily reflective of the majority of their fellow voters, nor of those voters' current leanings or opinions.

Don't forget that Trump is "new" to many Republican voters, while people like Graham and Romney have been around for ages, and are seen by many Republican voters as the wise elders in their party - and they trust their judgment.


BlueTsunami2018

(3,492 posts)
5. I hope you're right.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 06:45 AM
Oct 2019

We need sensible Republicans to see the light but they never seem to. I’ll be interested in seeing the polls reflecting this latest debacle. His support within the party hovers around 90%. I don’t see it dropping more than a few points at best. I don’t mean to be a contrarian, things may have been the way you say in earlier, traditional political times. But after all that’s gone on and him still retaining that kind of support, I don’t think it’s that way anymore.

And remember, Lindsay is still out there defending him at every turn otherwise. This one disagreement, which really isn’t as strong as it could or should be, probably isn’t a game changer.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
6. My rabidly pro Trump brother-in-law has been eerily quiet this past week.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 07:44 AM
Oct 2019

Perhaps something finally sunk into his 77 yr old thick skull.

Even Fox News is speaking out against Trump.


bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
7. Cui bono, who benefits will usually tell us why
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 11:09 AM
Oct 2019

This is particularly true with the brand of crazy currently residing in the WH.

He is strictly transactional, it's always "what's in it for me?"

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