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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 08:18 AM Oct 2019

Well Look Here: The Kurds did help the Allies in WWII

Last edited Thu Oct 10, 2019, 11:12 AM - Edit history (1)

Zeddy




Oh, and would you f***ing look at that. The Kurds DID help us win World War 2. First as part of the counter-offensive to the Nazi-backed Iraqi coup of 1941. Later, some served in Albania, Italy and Greece.


Meanwhile Fred Trump apparently never got drafted


The Iraq Levies were an Allied WW2 force largely composed of Assyrian, Kurdish, Armenian, Turkman and Yazidi soldiers. All ethnic groups, I might add, represented in the Syrian Democratic Forces, the anti-ISIS coalition that Trump just betrayed.


There's a tremendous erased history of colonial soldiers serving in WW2. Indian, Arab, African soldiers in large numbers all contributed to the liberation of Axis territory including Europe in frontline combat.


But forgotten because they served under French & British flags.


His grandfather served in France, his great uncle helped liberate Buchenwald, his grandmother built B-29s.





Fred Trump otoh was arrested at a Klan rally in 1927. According to one press report at the time he was wearing robes.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Levies#1940s
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/9/1891413/-The-Kurds-did-help-the-Allies-in-WWII?utm_campaign=trending



UPDATING FOR MORE:

9th Oct,0930 - the company paraded opposite their Landing crafts [six boats] and issued with Rum rations. At 0200 the Company sailed for two hours to reach the starting point.

At 0400 hrs Company lands at Parachute beach, with overcast sky and ground visibility Ten Yards, the landing was silent and successful.

Number 2 platoon [Assyrian] headed the advance up the slope followed ten minutes later, on its right flank by No. 3 platoon [Kurdish]. During the accent, 3 platoon drifted too far to the right and lost contact with 2 platoon. Captain E Clark was sent to tell platoon to swing back to the left. No; 2 platoon now moved up what should have been no.3 platoons line of advance. Now the company formation was; no.2 platoon in lead, No. 3 platoon right rear, No. 1 platoon left rear, H.Q. and Mortars at rear, rain began to fall as company advanced.

At 0430 Enemy light machinegun opened up on the left flank, No. 1 platoon went in and overran the position sending back prisoners. At 0500 [First light] No2 and 3 platoons engaged enemy posts, overran their positions and sent back more prisoners. 0530- No 2 platoon arrived on the right side of first objective [point 254] and came under heavy fire but could not locate enemy positions, engaged enemy among the ruins, they pushed on and arrived at the right side of main objective [point 264] at 0650hrs and came under fire from Breda 20mm Guns, firing explosive shells. No.1 platoon moved up the left flank, came under long-range enemy fire; they pushed on and arrived on the left side of point 264 at 0730.



more:
http://assyrianlevies.info/battle---albania.html
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Well Look Here: The Kurds did help the Allies in WWII (Original Post) kpete Oct 2019 OP
So, Newest Reality Oct 2019 #1
He doesnt care, he makes crap up. His rabid undereducated base onetexan Oct 2019 #3
True. Newest Reality Oct 2019 #8
He's not a Billionaire Real Estate Tycoon, he just played one on TV bigbrother05 Oct 2019 #22
Racists don't need to be convinced. They already are willing to follow any fellow racist. olegramps Oct 2019 #24
It would be interesting to see what his (Fred Trump's) Selective Service card had written on it. TheBlackAdder Oct 2019 #2
Would he even have had one? Farmer-Rick Oct 2019 #14
In 1940, men who were between 18-36 had to register. Trump born 10/11/05 so it would be close. TheBlackAdder Oct 2019 #20
Friedrich the bunder never got drafted. Wonder if he threw any klan riots down at the waterfront, Mc Mike Oct 2019 #4
And Turkey signed a non-aggression pact with the Nazis in WW II Ellipsis Oct 2019 #5
What's that? LeftInTX Oct 2019 #35
Turkey sat out WWII. Blue_true Oct 2019 #44
Does Trump even understand the concept of allies???? TNNurse Oct 2019 #6
Yeah, of course! HIS allies are Putin, Xi, Assad, Erdogan, Kim, et al. Texin Oct 2019 #17
And no Trump has ever served. Kingofalldems Oct 2019 #7
Some extended Drumpf family members could easily been on the cliffs above Normandy. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #15
Truth Kingofalldems Oct 2019 #16
Nah. Service is for clucks. sarge43 Oct 2019 #27
John G Trump Nasruddin Oct 2019 #30
Post removed Post removed Oct 2019 #9
Hmmm...you became a member today. I find your post offensive and alerted on it. abqtommy Oct 2019 #11
This post knocked my socks off. n/t rzemanfl Oct 2019 #29
who are you talking to? friend of m and j Oct 2019 #32
"Name Removed. Message Auto-Removed" means you won't be seeing them at all. Hekate Oct 2019 #37
I was talking to the person who posted an inflammatory reply to the op. abqtommy Oct 2019 #41
Oh, you liberals, with your "facts." /s spooky3 Oct 2019 #10
"Facts are stupid things." DBoon Oct 2019 #31
Facts are stubborn things Hekate Oct 2019 #39
Good get, kpete! B Stieg Oct 2019 #12
yes, but where were the Kurds NewJeffCT Oct 2019 #13
Or the Bowling Green Massacre? bigbrother05 Oct 2019 #23
Once again the resident in the White House duforsure Oct 2019 #18
I was sure they had... Hugin Oct 2019 #19
The Trumps were a family of traitors and draft dodgers. Donald's grandfather who relocated from Pepsidog Oct 2019 #21
Which is great, but to quote HRC, "What difference does it make?" flibbitygiblets Oct 2019 #25
I suspected as much and tried to nose around a bit but got sidetracked. Thomas Hurt Oct 2019 #26
To be fair, Trump's side lost WWII griloco Oct 2019 #28
Fundamental difference here DFW Oct 2019 #33
Which side would Fred have fought for? After all ... 11 Bravo Oct 2019 #34
Pretty much as I thought it would be. Every colonial power had soldiers in both World Wars. Hekate Oct 2019 #36
Two of our most important allies today were our enemies in WWII. Two of or closest WWII allies Nitram Oct 2019 #38
K&R Scurrilous Oct 2019 #40
No one in Trump's family seems to have served in the US armed forces at all. LisaM Oct 2019 #42
My grandfather served in the Iraqi Levies eissa Oct 2019 #43
What?! Trump just made shit up?! Beartracks Oct 2019 #45
Fuck All Impotentrump knows Cha Oct 2019 #46
K&R calimary Oct 2019 #47

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
1. So,
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 08:22 AM
Oct 2019

Even when Trump is wrong he's wrong. There is nothing like someone who does not know anything about what they are talking about leading a country.

What could go wrong? Everything!

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
3. He doesnt care, he makes crap up. His rabid undereducated base
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 08:41 AM
Oct 2019

Eats the crap up and they dont care whether what he says is true or not.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
8. True.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 08:55 AM
Oct 2019

Keep in mind that one can be both educated to some degree and loyal. If the appeal to biases and emotion are stronger than reason and facts, it sways opinion.

For instance, I don't think that all farmers today are uneducated. It takes a lot of information and knowledge about agriculture and even technology to run a successful farm.

So, I come to the idea that Trump's manipulation techniques played directly into their vulnerabilities and bias. He most certainly has fooled many business people, (thousands). He uses many tools along the way. That was very obvious when he was campaigning and people of all kinds took his word for it. He touts his prestige, experience, success, (all of which are in question) and adds verbal manipulation and fallacies and combines that with a ruthless, underhanded disregard for ethics, empathy, etc.

When you are in The Spectacle doing a show, you can stick your finger right in the lizard-brain, (emotive reactive) and work people like a carnival barker. If they are not aware of what's going on, they fall prey to it. Very intelligent people even, as is proven, are not immune to becoming cult members.

That is how a confidence man works. There is a setup. The media assisted him because of the show he provided.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
22. He's not a Billionaire Real Estate Tycoon, he just played one on TV
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 10:15 AM
Oct 2019

At least the FCC requires commercial spokespeople to identified as paid endorsers.

Farmer-Rick

(10,183 posts)
14. Would he even have had one?
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:24 AM
Oct 2019

If you're not on the list, you don't exist?

But I think what Traitor Trump meant when he said Kurds did not help in WWII, is that they didn't help the Nazis. That's the group the orange idiot identifies with.

He didn't mean America.

TheBlackAdder

(28,207 posts)
20. In 1940, men who were between 18-36 had to register. Trump born 10/11/05 so it would be close.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:51 AM
Oct 2019

.


The Act went in 0n 9/6/1940, so it would mean that Fred Trump would almost be turning 35.

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Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
4. Friedrich the bunder never got drafted. Wonder if he threw any klan riots down at the waterfront,
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 08:44 AM
Oct 2019

to stop shipments that supported the Allies.

We know Baron von Fatfuk has always rooted for hitler and the nazis.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
5. And Turkey signed a non-aggression pact with the Nazis in WW II
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 08:48 AM
Oct 2019

a non-aggression pact ess signed between Nazi Germany and Turkey on 18 June 1941 in Ankara by German ambassador to Turkey Franz von Papen.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
44. Turkey sat out WWII.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 07:04 PM
Oct 2019

They fought with Germany in WWI and had to negotiate with Britain and France not to get punished badly after being defeated. The country was led by a national hero coming toward WWII who was adamant that Turkey not side with Hitler, he made the leaders that took over after he died promise, their "solution" was to sign neutrality pacts with the Allies and Germany (main Axis power).

keithbvadu2

(36,819 posts)
15. Some extended Drumpf family members could easily been on the cliffs above Normandy.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:25 AM
Oct 2019

Some extended Drumpf family members could easily been on the cliffs above Normandy.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
27. Nah. Service is for clucks.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 10:50 AM
Oct 2019

Drumpfs would be in Berlin cutting deals to get their paws on the stolen valuables the SS boasted.

Fuck 'em. Those losers won't need 'em where they're going.

Nasruddin

(754 posts)
30. John G Trump
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 11:49 AM
Oct 2019

The president's uncle, an electrical engineering professor at MIT, worked on the development of radar in WWII.
He may've worked in England during part of the war as part of a joint development. It looks like his
involvement was extensive.

Radar was a big deal for the Allies and a real wonder weapon that helped win the war. I give him a pass.
I guess this side of the family went straight.

I've never heard of John Trump's descendents in any context with the president. Perhaps the branches aren't that close.

Response to kpete (Original post)

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
11. Hmmm...you became a member today. I find your post offensive and alerted on it.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:15 AM
Oct 2019

Smells like troll to me.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
41. I was talking to the person who posted an inflammatory reply to the op.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 04:48 PM
Oct 2019

I did notify admin on the post then I put the newbie on total ignore. Maybe that's scorched earth but it works for me.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
18. Once again the resident in the White House
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:30 AM
Oct 2019

Tries to promote lies and propaganda to justify his actions, when he dodged the draft when he should have served. His turning his back on our allies with the Republicans help now is just more foreign policy disasters from the puppet of Putin. Wonder how much trump cost to do this from Turkey? Every Republican not standing up against trump has no place in OUR government. No country should trust trump and the GOP again. Trumps intentionally hurting allies , shaking them down for money too, and lying to do it.

Hugin

(33,159 posts)
19. I was sure they had...
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:46 AM
Oct 2019

Old Yeller's gut is always wrong when it comes to anything, but, betrayal.

Still no word on any Trumps being anywhere near WWII. They must have called in sick to continue the grifting.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
21. The Trumps were a family of traitors and draft dodgers. Donald's grandfather who relocated from
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 10:07 AM
Oct 2019

Germany to America then after running a brothel tries to repatriate back to Germany. His request to repatriate was denied because he dodged the draft in Germany. I mean the Drumpfs are an historically unpatriotic and treasonous clan, out just to enrich themselves. Name one good cause Trump is known for? Pimps, traitors, money launderers, and slum lording is their claim to fame. I will note that Eric Trump did create a foundation to help kids which was pretty successful until Donald found out that Trump properties were donating the venue. When he found out, Dotard was furious and screamed “everyone pays”. After that the venue fees increased every year. What a loathsome truly evil person he is.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
25. Which is great, but to quote HRC, "What difference does it make?"
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 10:30 AM
Oct 2019

WWII was what, 75 years ago? Isn't it important what people are doing now?

I mean, if we're going to get into that realm, are we going to abandon Germany...oh...nevermind.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
36. Pretty much as I thought it would be. Every colonial power had soldiers in both World Wars.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 03:38 PM
Oct 2019

They just fought under the flags of France, Britain, et al.

Nitram

(22,811 posts)
38. Two of our most important allies today were our enemies in WWII. Two of or closest WWII allies
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 03:50 PM
Oct 2019

are now our enemies. Trump's "observation" was meaningless.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
42. No one in Trump's family seems to have served in the US armed forces at all.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 05:07 PM
Oct 2019

Clearly not anyone related to either of his parents. I've tried to find out if his brother possibly went to Vietnam, but I can't find anything to show that he did. Obviously, no one from Melania or Ivana's families did.

The only possibility of anyone connected to him would be if someone from Marla Maples' family did (considering that she's from Georgia, there's a good possibility). But my very cursory search didn't find anything about it, though I did learn that her father was an Elvis impersonator and her mother is distantly related to Heather Locklear. Anyway, digression aside, I don't think he'd count Marla Maples as family, anyway.

I would love for some reporter to ask him directly if anyone from the Trump family has ever served in the US military. Now, I don't think that having family who've served in the military necessarily makes a difference to whether one is qualified to hold office. But the way he hugs the flag and yammers on about "our" armed forces makes me wish someone would just force the issue. I'd love to see him twist and turn. And it would probably shock much of his base to find out the answer.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
43. My grandfather served in the Iraqi Levies
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 05:19 PM
Oct 2019

Part of the Assyrian platoon. In fact, the Levies were predominantly Assyrian, something that would later be used against them as "proof" that the Christian Assyrians would always side with their religious brethern over their neighbors. My maternal side is from Habbaniya, Iraq, where most Assyrians lived at the time, near the RAF base. The allies promised us a safe haven in our indigenous land in exchange for our services, but of course, they never did follow through on that. Shocking, I know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Levies

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