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riversedge

(70,239 posts)
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 02:17 PM Oct 2019

Giuliani had lunch with these 2 men at Trump hotel YESTERDAY-then they tried to flee out of Dulles..




Per the WSJ, Giuliani had lunch with these two individuals at the Trump hotel YESTERDAY and then they tried to flee out of Dulles. What do you think Giuliani discussed at lunch?


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Giuliani had lunch with these 2 men at Trump hotel YESTERDAY-then they tried to flee out of Dulles.. (Original Post) riversedge Oct 2019 OP
sounds like witness tampering to me. Thomas Hurt Oct 2019 #1
More like an illegal tip-off to suspects about to be arrested pecosbob Oct 2019 #7
Sou ds like tjey were discussing where and when tjey'd all meet in Vienna BigmanPigman Oct 2019 #73
Repuke FBI agents in the NY office, the rusty fender Oct 2019 #2
In Fire And Fury book, Wolfe writes of a NY friend of Trump's who briefed him on FBI activities. Midnight Writer Oct 2019 #21
It was just a meeting to discuss Ukrainian adoptions ... nt Jarqui Oct 2019 #3
LOL good one Jarqui! flibbitygiblets Oct 2019 #6
Now that's funny. yellowcanine Oct 2019 #23
You win! Ohioboy Oct 2019 #69
Oh, my! MineralMan Oct 2019 #4
Actually "The plot sickens" is the way I heard it! N/T flotsam Oct 2019 #8
I prefer the spoonerism as I wrote it, thanks. MineralMan Oct 2019 #9
Gentle-persons: The shit soup thickens and thot sickens the dumps et al. erronis Oct 2019 #19
Or, maybe DFW Oct 2019 #27
Love it. Never was good at literacher or matematix. erronis Oct 2019 #30
Don't sweat it DFW Oct 2019 #37
A modernism you might not know of PJMcK Oct 2019 #65
Putin thickens burial plots. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #74
Another one is "The thick plottens" OnDoutside Oct 2019 #38
I've been thinking about this all week...the first reponse pecosbob Oct 2019 #5
Rudy Rubles told them to get while the getting's good Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2019 #10
Just crazy Johnny2X2X Oct 2019 #11
Agree Blueplanet Oct 2019 #24
I think THEY were surprised too stopdiggin Oct 2019 #52
Obviously there are factions within our national law enforcement DFW Oct 2019 #29
It's like Watergate, except with morons Johnny2X2X Oct 2019 #39
Indeed. DFW Oct 2019 #42
Well, there were some morons at the Watergate Hotel, too. That's why they were caught. Nitram Oct 2019 #51
John Oliver calls it ... aggiesal Oct 2019 #68
So much sleaze, so many slimeballs, not so much time n/t hibbing Oct 2019 #12
They are all so clearly volstork Oct 2019 #13
But really what about Hillary's emails? Botany Oct 2019 #14
Yes they are! See my other post. machoneman Oct 2019 #61
Smells like he maybe tipped them off which then raises the question cstanleytech Oct 2019 #15
What did they discuss? Dodge. dchill Oct 2019 #16
I'm sure it was all perfectly innocent NewJeffCT Oct 2019 #44
And the price of (polonium) tea. dchill Oct 2019 #64
Perhaps appropriate to point out that this likely originated before Trump neutered the FEC pecosbob Oct 2019 #17
They discussed helping Trump. Why else would Trump's personal attorney meet them? Doodley Oct 2019 #18
yes and they were arrested bdamomma Oct 2019 #20
So Rudy must know why they tried to flee, and therefore it's... brush Oct 2019 #22
He may have been the one TO tell them "in person" to flee BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #26
And as his boss/client likes to say, we used to take care of people like that erronis Oct 2019 #40
The Ghoul is getting rusty. BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #47
should we worry abou Ghouliani's "health"? GetRidOfThem Oct 2019 #78
Do we know when they.bought the tickets TheRealNorth Oct 2019 #41
That will be the $64,000 question. BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #48
Or the 3,466,893 ruble question. CentralMass Oct 2019 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author WestLosAngelesGal Oct 2019 #25
Manafort is still advising people on Ukranian politics & business from his cell. Amazing. nt Hekate Oct 2019 #35
I saw from a different post that Manafort's lawyers were representing these 2 characters too. BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #49
I wonder if Barr spread the word Scarsdale Oct 2019 #28
Giuliani Associates Tied to Ukraine Probe Charged with Campaign Finance Violations Renew Deal Oct 2019 #31
And the headline on Faux news?....some nonsense about FISA warrants....not a peep about this.....n/t Bromwell Oct 2019 #32
+1, MAGA Nationalist live on another planet when it comes to Red Don's crimes and just like uponit7771 Oct 2019 #46
These jokers, lol Baked Potato Oct 2019 #33
Maybe Rudy will soon want to his pilgrimage, though sans the vows of poverty........ DFW Oct 2019 #34
FBI must have had a tail on him? kentuck Oct 2019 #36
Lordy. Glimmer of Hope Oct 2019 #43
So it sounds like RG should have a 24/7 tale and phone taps uponit7771 Oct 2019 #45
Maybe Rudy's next trip to the Ukraine DFW Oct 2019 #50
We can only hope! CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2019 #53
Where's Rudy now? Loge23 Oct 2019 #54
Did they wash down that lunch with a cup of Covfefe? Blue Owl Oct 2019 #55
This was no vacation! RexLipton Oct 2019 #56
two one way tickets n/t orleans Oct 2019 #57
The intelligence services orangecrush Oct 2019 #58
If they put those two in Epstein's cell, well I don't think they fixed those cameras yet... TeamPooka Oct 2019 #59
As God is my witness, I'll bet the FBI has been taping Ghouliani for some time.... machoneman Oct 2019 #60
+1 orangecrush Oct 2019 #70
It's remarkable to me bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #75
this is pretty messed up right here 0rganism Oct 2019 #62
"Drain the swamp"?!? Fritz Walter Oct 2019 #63
On MSNBC they were saying that there is no suggestion they were tipped off. Sounds like they were Pepsidog Oct 2019 #66
Rachel reporting tonight they were headed to Vienna Austria bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #76
Yes I saw that. I had to stop watching. Thoroughly disgusted. Pepsidog Oct 2019 #77
Dowd was on trump's legal team for awhile, I do believe. calimary Oct 2019 #67
Most of this administration should book one way flights out of our country IronLionZion Oct 2019 #72

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
7. More like an illegal tip-off to suspects about to be arrested
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 02:34 PM
Oct 2019

The men already knew that several investigations into their activities were underway.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
2. Repuke FBI agents in the NY office, the
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 02:27 PM
Oct 2019

same ones who pressured Comey into holding the infamous pre-election press conference(probably), likely tipped off Rudy

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
21. In Fire And Fury book, Wolfe writes of a NY friend of Trump's who briefed him on FBI activities.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 02:51 PM
Oct 2019

Sounds like Rudy to me.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
4. Oh, my!
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 02:31 PM
Oct 2019

The thot plickens. They tried to "flee the interview" but failed. Now, they're witnesses with no protection of "Executive privilege." Rudy should be afraid. Very afraid.

Giuliani is going down, and will probably take Trump with him. This is wonderful news!

erronis

(15,286 posts)
19. Gentle-persons: The shit soup thickens and thot sickens the dumps et al.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 02:45 PM
Oct 2019

Makes me think of peas-porridge hot, peas-porridge cold, peas-porridge in the pot kills us all.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
65. A modernism you might not know of
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 04:38 PM
Oct 2019

"Thot" is a reference to girls using porn. As the usually reliable Urban Dictionary describes it:

Thot
What guys call girls in schools that send out nudes and porn of themselves. An acronym for That Ho Over There.

"Man, if you bang her you better wrap it good, that thot has given herpes to half the school."


Just FYI.

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
5. I've been thinking about this all week...the first reponse
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 02:32 PM
Oct 2019
Maybe time for a nostalgic look back at the Guiliani leaks from NY FBI that helped to undermine @HillaryClinton in final days of 2016 campaign.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
11. Just crazy
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 02:35 PM
Oct 2019

The most surprising thing is that they were actually arrested. This is blatant corruption out in the open.

Blueplanet

(253 posts)
24. Agree
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 03:02 PM
Oct 2019

Very surprised they were arrested. And, it's all out in the open. They are daring anyone to call them to account for their actions.

stopdiggin

(11,314 posts)
52. I think THEY were surprised too
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 03:46 PM
Oct 2019

thus I'm skeptical of the "tip off" thing. These are wealthy individuals, with even more wealthy connections .. both in and outside the U.S. If they were evading arrest .. or thought they had to .. there's a hundred other ways out of the country that don't involve parking your butt down at Dulles

DFW

(54,397 posts)
29. Obviously there are factions within our national law enforcement
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 03:15 PM
Oct 2019

And some of them will not go along with their corrupt superiors. The one thing sleazes fear more than anything is the glaring light of day being shown on their activities, and this is no doubt what they were fleeing. Their hastily planned "vacations" will have to be postponed for, oh, maybe 2 to 10 years, depending on how much they are willing to reveal under their new status as caught fugitives.

Barr is no doubt seething in private, asking "how could those idiots allow themselves to be seen with Giuliani at a Trump facility, and then going straight to an intercontinental airport?"

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
39. It's like Watergate, except with morons
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 03:24 PM
Oct 2019

I believe Rudy is plain stupid, but there are other smart crooks around Trump.

Nitram

(22,803 posts)
51. Well, there were some morons at the Watergate Hotel, too. That's why they were caught.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 03:42 PM
Oct 2019

But Trump has an edge in both moronic quantity and quality.

Botany

(70,510 posts)
14. But really what about Hillary's emails?
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 02:38 PM
Oct 2019

"Per the WSJ, Giuliani had lunch with these two individuals at the Trump hotel YESTERDAY and then
they tried to flee out of Dulles. What do you think Giuliani discussed at lunch?"

So the Feds are watching Rudy?

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
15. Smells like he maybe tipped them off which then raises the question
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 02:39 PM
Oct 2019

of who tipped Giuliani off.
The prosecutor really needs to pursue this and see if he can get them to roll on Giuliani and then see if Giuliani is willing to go to prison or roll-on whoever told him.

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
17. Perhaps appropriate to point out that this likely originated before Trump neutered the FEC
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 02:41 PM
Oct 2019

I think he failed to appoint a new member which denied them a quorum and effectively shuts them down. So we currently have no one policing political contributions...lovely. The new Monkey-Wrench Gang at work.

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
20. yes and they were arrested
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 02:45 PM
Oct 2019

good for those FBI agents. As far as our FBI and CIA they are not playing around I hope they get these thugs.

brush

(53,782 posts)
22. So Rudy must know why they tried to flee, and therefore it's...
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 02:57 PM
Oct 2019

also connected to trump. The heat is on Rudy now. Wonder if he's next?

And it seems we're getting closer and closer to trump resigning as the walls close in.

George Conway and other repugs are out publicly with a letter demanding for him to step down.

Speaker Pelosi was so right in saying trump will self-impeach.

BumRushDaShow

(129,053 posts)
26. He may have been the one TO tell them "in person" to flee
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 03:05 PM
Oct 2019

knowing what was coming down. He likes bragging about his inside info.

erronis

(15,286 posts)
40. And as his boss/client likes to say, we used to take care of people like that
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 03:25 PM
Oct 2019

If dump knew how to handle a 9-iron or a 9mm pistol, Rudy would stop talking, forever.

I'm not sure that any of the dump's remaining hench's know anything other than looking stoopid behind his royal ass. Surely not wielding a weapon of puny destruction.

In the end, mar-el-lardo may have to suffocate the last breathing character in his environment by laying on top and farting. Lindsey may be "it".

GetRidOfThem

(869 posts)
78. should we worry abou Ghouliani's "health"?
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 09:02 AM
Oct 2019

Now I am wondering... sudden heart attack or something like that...

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
41. Do we know when they.bought the tickets
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 03:25 PM
Oct 2019

They may have been just getting their "marching order" from ghouliani.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
28. I wonder if Barr spread the word
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 03:12 PM
Oct 2019

about the imminent arrests? Gee, the marshalls should just hang around the tRump hotel, all the crooks show up sooner or later. Mostly sooner. Seems to be a regular dive for criminals. The Mafia had their clubhouse, the tRump crooks have tRump hotels.

uponit7771

(90,346 posts)
46. +1, MAGA Nationalist live on another planet when it comes to Red Don's crimes and just like
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 03:30 PM
Oct 2019

... that one lady said at the town hall they listen to a lot of winger news and don't know any of this.

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
60. As God is my witness, I'll bet the FBI has been taping Ghouliani for some time....
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 04:12 PM
Oct 2019

due to his erratic statements and their antipathy towards a guy who tied to burn every single FBI official save his NYC cronies. They intercepted his dialogue and had agents waiting at the airport. They easily could have arrested them that night and not the next day but hey, someone at the FBI told them to await their almost clean escape in order to make them look even worse to a trial judge.

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)
75. It's remarkable to me
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:18 PM
Oct 2019

that we still have a well-functioning FBI, and that the DOJ prosecutors in various locales are still pursuing cases independently of Trump, Barr, Giuliani & Co.

0rganism

(23,955 posts)
62. this is pretty messed up right here
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 04:18 PM
Oct 2019

i don't know how much more fecking obvious it has to get for We The People to rise up against this cancerous insanity that sickens our democracy even now

then again, we seem to be okay with caging children, so maybe we need more. maybe lots more.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
63. "Drain the swamp"?!?
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 04:25 PM
Oct 2019

What we have in place now is no swamp. It’s a Superfund toxic clean-up site.

Only two drawbacks:
1. “The preliminary 2018 Trump Administration Superfund budget would cut the program by $330 million out of its nearly $1.1 billion budget, a 30% reduction to the Environmental Protection Agency program.” Source
2. The operators of the site — Drumpf and his ilk — add tons of toxic waste on a daily (if not hourly) basis.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
66. On MSNBC they were saying that there is no suggestion they were tipped off. Sounds like they were
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 04:56 PM
Oct 2019

tipped off to me.

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)
76. Rachel reporting tonight they were headed to Vienna Austria
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:20 PM
Oct 2019

as was Rudy Giuliani. Speculation is they were to meet with Firtash who is confined to that city for legal reasons.

IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
72. Most of this administration should book one way flights out of our country
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 06:31 PM
Oct 2019

Since it is a strange coincidence that everyone's associates seem to be shady

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