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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAt least four national security officials raised alarms about Ukraine policy before and after Trump
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/at-least-four-national-security-officials-raised-alarms-about-ukraine-policy-before-and-after-trump-call-with-ukrainian-president/2019/10/10/ffe0c88a-eb6d-11e9-9c6d-436a0df4f31d_story.html
By Greg Miller and Greg Jaffe
Oct. 10, 2019 at 6:46 p.m. EDT
At least four national security officials were so alarmed by the Trump administrations attempts to pressure Ukraine for political purposes that they raised concerns with a White House lawyer both before and immediately after President Trumps July 25 call with that countrys president, according to U.S. officials and other people familiar with the matter.
The nature and timing of the previously undisclosed discussions with National Security Council legal adviser John Eisenberg indicate that officials were delivering warnings through official White House channels earlier than previously understood including before the call that precipitated a whistleblower complaint and the impeachment inquiry of the president.
At the time, the officials were unnerved by the removal in May of the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine; subsequent efforts by Trumps lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani to promote Ukraine-related conspiracies; as well as signals in meetings at the White House that Trump wanted the new government in Kiev to deliver material that might be politically damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden.
Those concerns soared in the calls aftermath, officials said. Within minutes, senior officials including national security adviser John Bolton were being pinged by subordinates about problems with what the president had said to his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky. Bolton and others scrambled to obtain a rough transcript that was already being locked down on a highly classified computer network.
When people were listening to this in real time there were significant concerns about what was going on alarm bells were kind of ringing, said one person familiar with the sequence of events inside the White House, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter. People were trying to figure out what to do, how to get a grasp on the situation.
It is unclear whether some or all of the officials who complained to Eisenberg are also the ones who later spoke to the whistleblower.
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By Greg Miller and Greg Jaffe
Oct. 10, 2019 at 6:46 p.m. EDT
At least four national security officials were so alarmed by the Trump administrations attempts to pressure Ukraine for political purposes that they raised concerns with a White House lawyer both before and immediately after President Trumps July 25 call with that countrys president, according to U.S. officials and other people familiar with the matter.
The nature and timing of the previously undisclosed discussions with National Security Council legal adviser John Eisenberg indicate that officials were delivering warnings through official White House channels earlier than previously understood including before the call that precipitated a whistleblower complaint and the impeachment inquiry of the president.
At the time, the officials were unnerved by the removal in May of the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine; subsequent efforts by Trumps lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani to promote Ukraine-related conspiracies; as well as signals in meetings at the White House that Trump wanted the new government in Kiev to deliver material that might be politically damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden.
Those concerns soared in the calls aftermath, officials said. Within minutes, senior officials including national security adviser John Bolton were being pinged by subordinates about problems with what the president had said to his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky. Bolton and others scrambled to obtain a rough transcript that was already being locked down on a highly classified computer network.
When people were listening to this in real time there were significant concerns about what was going on alarm bells were kind of ringing, said one person familiar with the sequence of events inside the White House, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter. People were trying to figure out what to do, how to get a grasp on the situation.
It is unclear whether some or all of the officials who complained to Eisenberg are also the ones who later spoke to the whistleblower.
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At least four national security officials raised alarms about Ukraine policy before and after Trump (Original Post)
Dennis Donovan
Oct 2019
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Mike 03
(16,616 posts)1. Something tells me Americans will soon be familiar the name John Eisenberg.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)2. More nails added to the coffin. n/t
riversedge
(70,240 posts)3. msnbc is BREAKING BREAKING BREAKING
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,010 posts)4. "But they're the deep state!" Donny Dotard hero of the derp state
apnu
(8,758 posts)5. So is this the thing that got Bolton to bail on Trump?
Bolton is a nut job, but if he was appalled by it, this must be as bad as we all think it is.
real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)6. K&R