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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 07:09 PM Oct 2019

Shit's getting deep tonight faster than I can type. Plenty of people knew, and sat there "unnerved."

At least four national security officials raised alarms about Ukraine policy before and after Trump call with Ukrainian president



https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/at-least-four-national-security-officials-raised-alarms-about-ukraine-policy-before-and-after-trump-call-with-ukrainian-president/2019/10/10/ffe0c88a-eb6d-11e9-9c6d-436a0df4f31d_story.html

By
Greg Miller and
Greg Jaffe
Oct. 10, 2019 at 6:46 p.m. EDT

At least four national security officials were so alarmed by the Trump administration’s attempts to pressure Ukraine for political purposes that they raised concerns with a White House lawyer both before and immediately after President Trump’s July 25 call with that country’s president, according to U.S. officials and other people familiar with the matter.

The nature and timing of the previously undisclosed discussions with National Security Council legal adviser John Eisenberg indicate that officials were delivering warnings through official White House channels earlier than previously understood — including before the call that precipitated a whistleblower complaint and the impeachment inquiry of the president.

At the time, the officials were unnerved by the removal in May of the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine; subsequent efforts by Trump’s lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani to promote Ukraine-related conspiracies; as well as signals in meetings at the White House that Trump wanted the new government in Kiev to deliver material that might be politically damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden.

Those concerns soared in the call’s aftermath, officials said. Within minutes, senior officials including national security adviser John Bolton were being pinged by subordinates about problems with what the president had said to his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky. Bolton and others scrambled to obtain a rough transcript that was already being “locked down” on a highly classified computer network.
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Shit's getting deep tonight faster than I can type. Plenty of people knew, and sat there "unnerved." (Original Post) Miles Archer Oct 2019 OP
Within minutes of the call... Cracklin Charlie Oct 2019 #1
This is another big story that hopefully won't be lost in the cyclone of news today. nt Mike 03 Oct 2019 #2
Nope, it'll be added to the growing pile that Schiff is working on... cynatnite Oct 2019 #4
This doesn't even include what's going on with Giuliani... Miles Archer Oct 2019 #5
It's gonna be messy... The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #3
I love that it's Murphy's fans Midnightwalk Oct 2019 #7
Wind turbines. Mme. Defarge Oct 2019 #9
Will those officials be identified and testify before Congress? Garrett78 Oct 2019 #6
Nothing will sway Congressional Republicans EndGOPPropaganda Oct 2019 #11
"Those are the people that must be reached." MyOwnPeace Oct 2019 #13
Bingo. 51% of Americans think that Trump should be impeached now. Blue_true Oct 2019 #15
OK. EndGOPPropaganda Oct 2019 #16
i wanna see bolton in the stand. mopinko Oct 2019 #8
they are soooooooo screwed!!!! subana Oct 2019 #10
Subpoena them too. ffr Oct 2019 #12
I agree......... MyOwnPeace Oct 2019 #14

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
4. Nope, it'll be added to the growing pile that Schiff is working on...
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 07:18 PM
Oct 2019

This is another five pounds of evidence that won't be ignored.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
5. This doesn't even include what's going on with Giuliani...
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 07:19 PM
Oct 2019

...as I said, it's all happening "faster than I can type."

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
6. Will those officials be identified and testify before Congress?
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 07:22 PM
Oct 2019

I think direct testimony is the only thing that might sway some Republicans. Unless Schiff and Co. manage to get their hands on the contents of that server.

EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
11. Nothing will sway Congressional Republicans
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:13 PM
Oct 2019

except shifts in the opinion of the GOP base.

But the GOP base is locked inside a lie bubble created by Fox and Limbaugh. Those are the people that must be reached.

MyOwnPeace

(16,927 posts)
13. "Those are the people that must be reached."
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:42 PM
Oct 2019

No, they aren't (I say respectfully).

We must simply GET OUT THE VOTE!
WE have the numbers.
WE have the people.
WE have the truth.

And now we must get them to the polls and VOTE!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. Bingo. 51% of Americans think that Trump should be impeached now.
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 10:46 PM
Oct 2019

That is a majority. We need to induce those people to vote that way next month and in November 2020.

What scares republicans is losing office. I can promise you that if McConnell, Collins and others see themselves losing to democrats in 2020, they will boost that lying, corrupt pig out of the White House faster than we can blink.

EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
16. OK.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 10:20 PM
Oct 2019

Both things. You're right about turnout of course. But if we want a massive enormous landslide we must do both.

MyOwnPeace

(16,927 posts)
14. I agree.........
Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:45 PM
Oct 2019

I think the tide has shifted enough that we can forget the "polite invite:" "Hey, if you're not busy, say next Wednesday, would you mind if we get a group of government people together to sit down and have a nice chat - that is, if you're not too busy........"

SCREW THEM!

SUBPOENA every frickin' last one of them!

And if they're a NO SHOW, haul their lard-asses off to jail - EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM!!!!!!!!!

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