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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsShit's getting deep tonight faster than I can type. Plenty of people knew, and sat there "unnerved."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/at-least-four-national-security-officials-raised-alarms-about-ukraine-policy-before-and-after-trump-call-with-ukrainian-president/2019/10/10/ffe0c88a-eb6d-11e9-9c6d-436a0df4f31d_story.html
By
Greg Miller and
Greg Jaffe
Oct. 10, 2019 at 6:46 p.m. EDT
At least four national security officials were so alarmed by the Trump administrations attempts to pressure Ukraine for political purposes that they raised concerns with a White House lawyer both before and immediately after President Trumps July 25 call with that countrys president, according to U.S. officials and other people familiar with the matter.
The nature and timing of the previously undisclosed discussions with National Security Council legal adviser John Eisenberg indicate that officials were delivering warnings through official White House channels earlier than previously understood including before the call that precipitated a whistleblower complaint and the impeachment inquiry of the president.
At the time, the officials were unnerved by the removal in May of the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine; subsequent efforts by Trumps lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani to promote Ukraine-related conspiracies; as well as signals in meetings at the White House that Trump wanted the new government in Kiev to deliver material that might be politically damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden.
Those concerns soared in the calls aftermath, officials said. Within minutes, senior officials including national security adviser John Bolton were being pinged by subordinates about problems with what the president had said to his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky. Bolton and others scrambled to obtain a rough transcript that was already being locked down on a highly classified computer network.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)What did he say on that call?
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)cynatnite
(31,011 posts)This is another five pounds of evidence that won't be ignored.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)...as I said, it's all happening "faster than I can type."
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,719 posts)Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)What could go wrong.
Mme. Defarge
(8,033 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)I think direct testimony is the only thing that might sway some Republicans. Unless Schiff and Co. manage to get their hands on the contents of that server.
EndGOPPropaganda
(1,117 posts)except shifts in the opinion of the GOP base.
But the GOP base is locked inside a lie bubble created by Fox and Limbaugh. Those are the people that must be reached.
MyOwnPeace
(16,927 posts)No, they aren't (I say respectfully).
We must simply GET OUT THE VOTE!
WE have the numbers.
WE have the people.
WE have the truth.
And now we must get them to the polls and VOTE!
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)That is a majority. We need to induce those people to vote that way next month and in November 2020.
What scares republicans is losing office. I can promise you that if McConnell, Collins and others see themselves losing to democrats in 2020, they will boost that lying, corrupt pig out of the White House faster than we can blink.
EndGOPPropaganda
(1,117 posts)Both things. You're right about turnout of course. But if we want a massive enormous landslide we must do both.
mopinko
(70,112 posts)schiff, call bolton.
i bet he wont even need a subpoena.
subana
(586 posts)the shit gets deeper every day!
ffr
(22,670 posts)Come on down, you're the next law breaker on the the Impeachment, that's right!
MyOwnPeace
(16,927 posts)I think the tide has shifted enough that we can forget the "polite invite:" "Hey, if you're not busy, say next Wednesday, would you mind if we get a group of government people together to sit down and have a nice chat - that is, if you're not too busy........"
SCREW THEM!
SUBPOENA every frickin' last one of them!
And if they're a NO SHOW, haul their lard-asses off to jail - EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM!!!!!!!!!