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Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 01:44 PM Oct 2019

Honest Question: Why doesn't Europe admit Ukraine to the EU?

There could be a transition period, because I know this is easier said than done. This would checkmate Russia and deter outside corruption. Then the European Union could help them transition to become the country they've protested and died for. All they wanted in the first place was to belong to the EU. At a time when Europe is worried about attrition of some of its valued members (i.e. Brexit) couldn't it also help the EU to have a new member that wants that badly to be a part of it, when so many of the other EU nations are grumbling?

Just food for thought.

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FirstLight

(13,362 posts)
1. sounds reasonable...
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 01:48 PM
Oct 2019

I'm fuzzy on their current political state...is Zelenski a "good guy" or a "bad guy"?
I think he was the one that was elected officially, not an oligarch, right?

I'd think EU would come to the rescue, send Putin & Trump a message...

TygrBright

(20,763 posts)
3. Possibly because of all the pro-Soviet- I mean, pro-Putin- sorry, pro-RUSSIA influence...
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 01:50 PM
Oct 2019

...in various parts of the Ukraine government and economy.

helpfully,
Bright

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
4. Because Russia provides a lot of Europe's energy
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 01:51 PM
Oct 2019

and they don't want to piss Russia off for other reasons including asymmetrical warfare.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
6. Some say it is due to
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 01:54 PM
Oct 2019

to the corruption within their government, that it has not sustained democratic values over the decades.

I'm one who thinks Brexit is a huge mistake. just my side salad comments (food for thought)

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
8. Had trended toward Ukraine requesting admission until Manafort/Putin got involved
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 02:00 PM
Oct 2019

Manafort advised the pro-Russian candidate to victory, then the Euromaidan protest and upheaval in 2013-2014 along with the Crimea annexation causes so much instability that both sides put EU membership on hold.

Iterate

(3,020 posts)
9. Ukraine and the EU have a signed and ratified Association Agreement
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 02:17 PM
Oct 2019

In 2016, as I remember. That's one stage in the process, which is incredibly detailed, scheduled, and monitored. It can easily take a decade or two. There are numerous rigorous benchmarks to be met.

Put it this way, geography aside, it would take Canada just as long and the US much longer, if ever.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
10. Probably, in part, because Ukraine is a basketcase and a failed state.
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 02:18 PM
Oct 2019

Propping up tiny Greece and various other economic basketcases is enough of a drain already, though it helps keeping the Euro down low enough in value to make German exports cheap of course.

Imagine how local workers in Germany would feel about 50 million highly-educated workers having free movement to the west and willing to work for peanuts. European unity is already fragile.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
13. Good points.
Fri Oct 11, 2019, 02:27 PM
Oct 2019

Things are already tenuous enough in some of the European countries. I guess Ukraine's admission would add a lot of fuel to the fire.

Nobody wants Europe's economy to get shakier.

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