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kentuck

(111,103 posts)
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 07:39 AM Oct 2019

Trump and Giuliani caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

Trump wants people to think that his "lawyer" was working in Ukraine all on his own, without his knowledge or approval. Now he says he doesn't know if Rudy is still his lawyer? Rudy says he may not do any more work in Ukraine. Now that the cookies are gone.

The truth is coming into focus. As is the normal routine in any investigation, follow the money.

Who was paying Rudy? Who was paying his associates that were arrested attempting to leave the country on a one-way ticket to Vienna, Austria?

Vienna, Austria? What the hell is going on in Vienna, Austria?

And the next day, Rudy had a ticket to leave the country. Where was he going? Vienna, Austria!

We can only suppose that Rudy was going to meet up with his old associates in Vienna?

But there was one important character living in Vienna that had been instrumental in manipulating the elections in Ukraine towards candidates that favored Russia and Vladimir Putin. Paul Manafort worked with them to get one elected president of Ukraine. Who was paying Manafort?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-firtash/indicted-giuliani-associate-worked-on-behalf-of-ukrainian-oligarch-firtash-idUSKBN1WQ2H5

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmytro_Firtash


But this "character" is also running from extradition efforts from the US. His name is Dmytro Firtash.
He may be in even deeper debt to Putin than Trump? It has been reported that he got a $11 billion dollar line of credit from Putin to work on the propaganda campaigns in Ukraine and elsewhere. Ukraine is fighting for its life today.

So Rudy was ready to fly to Vienna, but canceled his flight, after his two Ukrainian associates were arrested just before they boarded a plane, both with one-way tickets. They have since posted bail.
From somewhere in the deep state, someone will be watching.

Were Rudy and his "associates" going to Vienna to meet Firtash? Or someone close to Firtash? Were they going to Vienna to collect their "pay"? After all, they would argue that they did their job by starting the hatchet-job conspiracy theories about Joe Biden and his son, Hunter. Although they don't really know how successful it was? Judging from recent polls, Biden has not lost support, but may have actually gained in the polls?

Then Trump withdraws troops from Syria?

When Donald Trump is asked about Rudy Giuliani, he says, "Rudy who?"

Ignorance may be bliss but it can be dangerous.

It is a battle of technology utilization, a battle of ideologies, a battle of competing propaganda networks, a battle for the future.

Follow the money.



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Trump and Giuliani caught with their hand in the cookie jar. (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2019 OP
When did they get their tickets? When did Rudy get his ticket. bullimiami Oct 2019 #1
Real smelly. kentuck Oct 2019 #5
The NY FBI office seemed to help Rudy get Hillary. Same shitheads? dem4decades Oct 2019 #7
To be fair... jberryhill Oct 2019 #2
Do you visit often? kentuck Oct 2019 #3
A few times jberryhill Oct 2019 #8
Interesting story. kentuck Oct 2019 #9
Did Rudy have a one way ticket? mainstreetonce Oct 2019 #4
Who was Moisha Skidmore Oct 2019 #6
Vienna makes it EZ to get the MOENAY. Kid Berwyn Oct 2019 #10

bullimiami

(13,099 posts)
1. When did they get their tickets? When did Rudy get his ticket.
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 08:12 AM
Oct 2019

Did someone tip them off?
Who, and where did that person get the tip from?


We know
-They were fleeing.
-Rudy met with them the day before.
-Rudy had tix to meet them.
-The WH was informed the day before.

Very fishy.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
8. A few times
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 08:43 AM
Oct 2019

My mother was from Austria. Since she passed away, it’s the only way to get good goulash.

She had quite the adventure getting away from Russians back in 1945 prior to meeting my father, who was on a US-funded camping and shooting tour of Europe at the time. We certainly wouldn’t go back to meet them.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
6. Who was Moisha
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 08:27 AM
Oct 2019

in that little phone video they show those three sending love to and who Giuliani can't wait to see?

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
10. Vienna makes it EZ to get the MOENAY.
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 09:05 AM
Oct 2019

It’s next door in Switzerland. And thanks to current treaties, visitors to Europe can travel pretty easily between nations.

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