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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
1. Well, it should matter. It should matter very much.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 10:09 AM
Oct 2019

It's going to be up to all of us to help make it matter.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
2. This is just getting started.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 10:13 AM
Oct 2019

He may have opened Pandora's Box and we now have no idea just how it will turn out before then.

The situation is chaotic there now. Nero is Commander in Chief and may have tossed a match in gasoline, it seems.

That's all we need is a critical, military emergency while his Bloat is in office. However, he might want that in order to gain more control.

Turbineguy

(37,343 posts)
3. The question to me is:
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 10:14 AM
Oct 2019

Will this destroy NATO before then? If so, Trump will not be President, but escape to Russia leaving everyone else to clean up.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
4. Agree. This may be a situation that doesn't end with the massacre of the Kurds.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 10:15 AM
Oct 2019

There are real possibilities for this situation spilling well out of control. Turkey has proxy militias doing a lot of the dirty work and it's unclear if they fully know what they are doing. This situation is horrible, but it could get much worse and could still be going on a year from now. The consequences of that phone call are hard to predict.

walkingman

(7,628 posts)
6. Like with Climate Change - I think it might be too late already. We have entered the "Twilight Zone"
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 10:23 AM
Oct 2019

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
11. If Salvadoran kids in cages don't matter, why would dead Kurds? BTW, when Turkey was part of the...
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 10:41 AM
Oct 2019

Ottoman Empire, it attempted to kill off the Armenians, and branched off into Greeks and Assyrians. The Ottomans were allied with the Quadruple Alliance in WWI, around the time of the massacres.

So, Turks allied with Germans and practicing genocide... Not too many dots to connect there.

It is notable that while Germany has done much to repent over the Jewish Holocaust, the Turks refuse to even admit what it did to the Armenians was such a bad thing.

The Ottoman Empire is dead and buried, and Ataturk did what he could to bring Turkey kicking and screaming into the 20th Century, but old habits die hard.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
12. the Democratic candidates need to hammer him daily on all issues
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 10:52 AM
Oct 2019

there should be no relief until the election

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