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packman

(16,296 posts)
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 12:11 PM Oct 2019

Let's open a hot-box topic--- Christopher Columbus day Oct. 12

Should we ignore it (hence denying history and what his discovery led to) or should we celebrate it (acknowledging what his discovery led to).

I am aware of the genocide, slavery, plagues and exploitation of the native population of his setting foot in the Americans. But, I can remember back in 1992 how America ignored the 500th year of his landing.

I can remember when it was a day to remember because it was a school holiday and there were actually parades in our small town to celebrate the day.






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Let's open a hot-box topic--- Christopher Columbus day Oct. 12 (Original Post) packman Oct 2019 OP
Let's don't instead who got their flu shot who is a crazy anti-vax wasupaloopa Oct 2019 #1
Funny and weird you said that packman Oct 2019 #3
How about parents who don't vaccinate, but do circumcise? jberryhill Oct 2019 #10
In Maine, it's Indigenous Peoples Day - by law. jpak Oct 2019 #2
Aw Jeez... Wednesdays Oct 2019 #4
August 6th, October 11th, Christmas, and Thanksgiving whistler162 Oct 2019 #7
Nothing wrong with a day that acknowledges, in a clear-eyed way, one of the roots of white supremacy WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2019 #5
+1 2naSalit Oct 2019 #8
Please remeber it was the Scandinavian whistler162 Oct 2019 #6
Many people happened upon the Americas long before Columbus. hunter Oct 2019 #11
Do "we" have to make a group decision on this? jberryhill Oct 2019 #9
Funny, gotta remember that for the next one packman Oct 2019 #12
 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
1. Let's don't instead who got their flu shot who is a crazy anti-vax
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 12:15 PM
Oct 2019

How about was the nuclear bombing of Japan justified?

How about circumcision?

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
3. Funny and weird you said that
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 12:23 PM
Oct 2019

As I was waiting for my flu shot, my wife and I had a conversation with an elderly couple. They said they were worried about getting their shot because their daughter was an anti-VAXer and had them worried.

I asked them if they had their polio shot when it first came out. Of course they said best thing ever. I asked if they ever had a lock-jaw shot or any other injections to prevent diseases. They admitted they had. I asked them if they had their daughter vaccinated for measles and polio. Of course they said.

I just gave them a , "O.K. - think about that" look and let it sink in.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
10. How about parents who don't vaccinate, but do circumcise?
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 01:28 PM
Oct 2019

Which, believe it or not, is a huge contingent in parts of New Jersey and New York.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/herpes-babies-jewish-circumcision-ritual-link-rabbis-infants-a7620446.html

Herpes cases among babies linked to ultra-Orthodox Jewish circumcision ritual

New York health department alerts doctors to infections linked to ancient ritual in which circumcision wound is cleaned by mouth

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,357 posts)
5. Nothing wrong with a day that acknowledges, in a clear-eyed way, one of the roots of white supremacy
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 12:44 PM
Oct 2019

and colonialism in this country.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
6. Please remeber it was the Scandinavian
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 12:45 PM
Oct 2019

Leif Eriksson who said "Nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there."

hunter

(38,317 posts)
11. Many people happened upon the Americas long before Columbus.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 01:53 PM
Oct 2019

They assimilated, they died, or they sailed off again.

They didn't bring guns, deadly diseases, and violent imperialistic Christianity with them.

Christian imperialists aggressively destroyed the "pagan" histories of anyone who came before them.




 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. Do "we" have to make a group decision on this?
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 01:26 PM
Oct 2019

In honor of Cristobal Colón, I scheduled my colonoscopy that day.
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