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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 01:46 PM Oct 2019

I want the Democrats to give No Quarter to all the traitors.

Everyone working for Trump, protecting Trump must all pay a heavy price, no matter how long it takes. No forgiveness, no forgetting, no moving forward and putting it behind us.

The Democrats have a great opportunity to completely destroy the corrupt Republican party. They are traitors to the constitution and the rule of law. It is that simple and true.

The corruption of the Republican party has been going on for decades. It must be obliterated, once and for all. What is happening now cannot become the norm.

The Democrats have definitely picked up their game these past few weeks. Now I want to see them turn into sharks on a feeding frenzy.

I am not just talking about now, I am also talking about when we take back the Whitehouse and have a new AG. I don't care how many years it takes, nail all these traitors.


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I want the Democrats to give No Quarter to all the traitors. (Original Post) shockey80 Oct 2019 OP
When it's all said and done Mystery sage Oct 2019 #1
K&R Blue Owl Oct 2019 #2
K&R ArcticFox Oct 2019 #3
K&R and I, too, will neither forget, forgive, nor give them quarter for as long as I live. Efilroft Sul Oct 2019 #4
I would love it that would happen but I am not counting on it on it. Why? cstanleytech Oct 2019 #5
We should start by passing laws severely limiting the powers of a President appointed by the... Hugin Oct 2019 #12
Are you sure about starting with laws first? After all scotus can overturn such laws so cstanleytech Oct 2019 #15
I would think the SCOTUS (or most of them) would have to recuse themselves of decisions on laws... Hugin Oct 2019 #16
I would not count on them to recuse themselves. cstanleytech Oct 2019 #17
YES! The GOP must be buried, never to rise again. RobertDevereaux Oct 2019 #6
100% right, you are Perseus Oct 2019 #7
Indeed. Mr.Bill Oct 2019 #11
The Republlicans are doing a fine job of destroying their party themselves. They KPN Oct 2019 #8
I'm with you. They're all traitors. I will never forget & never forgive. CaptainTruth Oct 2019 #9
I don't care about the traitors bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #10
I've wanted this for years Arthur_Frain Oct 2019 #13
No deals and no exceptions. BSdetect Oct 2019 #14
Public square stockade for all of them and left there . Brainfodder Oct 2019 #18
ALL of them. Kid Berwyn Oct 2019 #19
Didn't Billy Barr publicly introduce and announce in a Hearing awhile back... WyattKansas Oct 2019 #20
Yes!!!... Catch2.2 Oct 2019 #21
We will never get justice for all these crimes. NCLefty Oct 2019 #22
Agreed! I want all of Trump's donors publicly identified and charged as well. jcmaine72 Oct 2019 #23

Mystery sage

(576 posts)
1. When it's all said and done
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 01:50 PM
Oct 2019

The people who work(gleefully) and defend trump should to be recorded as such and viewed as evil in the eyes of the people.

ArcticFox

(1,249 posts)
3. K&R
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 01:58 PM
Oct 2019

We ought to treat this as the outright traitorous effort to undermine Our Constitutional Republic that it is

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
5. I would love it that would happen but I am not counting on it on it. Why?
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 10:10 AM
Oct 2019

A number of reasons but the first is we would have to increase the number of SCOTUS seats to offset the number of conservative justices.
Why? Because they could overturn any laws and sentences for people.
Second is we would have to redefine the commutation and pardon powers for the President and limit it so a future Repugnant cannot undermine any sentences.
To do that we need to keep the House, the Presidency and have a strong enough majority in the Senate and keep the House and Senate for at least 12 to 18 years so they cannot repeal the laws to soon and that will be very difficult to manage.

Hugin

(33,162 posts)
12. We should start by passing laws severely limiting the powers of a President appointed by the...
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 11:03 AM
Oct 2019

Electoral College, but, losing the popular vote.

Heck, while we're dreaming, let's change what the installed office holder is called to Acting President.

-No SCOTUS appointments.
-Limited pardon powers.
-Limited use of Executive Orders.
-Must go through congress to make appropriations changes. (I know, it's already there, but, it needs to be reinforced. I guess.)
-Limited use of GFE and resources for campaign purposes. (Already spelled out in the Hatch Act. But, it needs teeth.)
-Limited authority over ongoing military operations. (To include nukes and withdraws.)
-No tariffs.

And, these limitations should "trickle down" to any Cabinet Secretaries and other appointees the Acting President should make. Extending beyond the Acting President's term, if need be, unless the appointee is renewed in their position by a popularly elected President.

The prospect of having an Acting President should be made so unpalatable as to make the prospect seem unworthy of the effort to game the Electoral College system as has been done by the GOP twice in the last 20 years.

I read an article here on DU over the past couple of days that a study has shown, the Electoral College system is biased toward the GOP anyway and something like this could be used as a way to even the playing field.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
15. Are you sure about starting with laws first? After all scotus can overturn such laws so
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 12:05 PM
Oct 2019

shouldn't the starting point then be to increase the number of scotus seats?

Hugin

(33,162 posts)
16. I would think the SCOTUS (or most of them) would have to recuse themselves of decisions on laws...
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 02:21 PM
Oct 2019

governing the appointment of non-popular vote Electoral College appointed Presidents.

Otherwise, it would have to be amendments going through the States.

We're speculating here. I doubt any changes would even get past the current Senate.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
7. 100% right, you are
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 10:28 AM
Oct 2019

Well put.

No "moving forward". I still cringe when I think about Obama saying that, it opened the flood gates to GOP corruption, so much so they don't even care to do it in front of the whole world now. Karl Rove not answering a subpoena and Democrats not doing anything about it told the corrupts that it was OK to not answer to a subpoena.

If a corrupt act is not punished appropriately that tells the crook the can do it again and still push harder to find out how far they can go.

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
11. Indeed.
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 11:01 AM
Oct 2019

"Moving forward" after Nixon resigned is what got us here today.

There should be no job in this country where resigning absolves you of wrongdoing.

KPN

(15,646 posts)
8. The Republlicans are doing a fine job of destroying their party themselves. They
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 10:28 AM
Oct 2019

don't really need our help to do that.

As for accountability and a heavy price, that might feel good but I will be satisfied if the principals are charged, convicted and/or removed from office and sentenced accordingly for their crimes. That is, tRump and perhaps some if not all of of his family members; Barr, Giuliani and Pompeo, maybe Mnuchin; McConnell, Nunes, Sessions and any other GOP Senators/Congressmen found guilty of illegal elections interference or coordination with or accepting assistance financial or otherwise from foreign entities for that purpose. The rest will take care of itself provided those key figures are held accountable and appropriate penalties are applied.

CaptainTruth

(6,594 posts)
9. I'm with you. They're all traitors. I will never forget & never forgive.
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 10:39 AM
Oct 2019

I think Republicans truly underestimate how angry they have made patriotic Americans who support the Constitution & rule of law.

They've crossed a line that cannot be uncrowded. We see their true nature.

bucolic_frolic

(43,180 posts)
10. I don't care about the traitors
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 11:00 AM
Oct 2019

I want all that was stolen returned to its rightful owners. Because that is the society we have to live with and what determines life going forward. Political confusion gives a lot of thieves room to maneuver. Compare America 2016 to America when Trump leaves office. THAT is the yardstick.

Arthur_Frain

(1,853 posts)
13. I've wanted this for years
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 11:20 AM
Oct 2019

But it’s always ‘move forward, let’s let bygones be bygones, take the high road’, etc.

What hogwash. These people only acknowledge strength, and they all need to be shown that embracing evil has consequences, serious, PERMANENT consequences. Everywhere.

As an example, we should have ensured angry spice was the first voted off DWTS this season. Petty? Yes. Pointless? No. The message is that while in America we love giving folks a second chance, that if you side with people who want to eliminate and destroy everything it takes to get that second chance, we will NOT allow you to rehab your image, and we will NOT forget.

Regrettably, it doesn’t ever happen, and new suckers are being indoctrinated into conservatism all the time, and because “reading hard” they won’t remember. Hell the google generation doesn’t remember a damned thing, they just ask their phone again.

If I’m still alive in 30 years, I have no doubt I’ll be rehashing this conversation on whatever medium technology provides for. Cause they’ll be back.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
20. Didn't Billy Barr publicly introduce and announce in a Hearing awhile back...
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 02:53 PM
Oct 2019

Barr's family, including his kids and where they worked???

Other Government Workers should remember very well and should also look them over closely and shun the hell out of all of them!

Barr's kids appeared in an Official Hearing to give Barr cover and support to prop his fat ass up, so they need to be shunned out of the government for using their positions to advance their daddy's unconstitutional behavior. It's not like they didn't have a clue that he was an evil bastard without any boundaries. And a tree's fruit doesn't suddenly fall under a different fruit tree.

Barr's kids should be immediately shunned out of the Federal Government and the family strain treated as a toxic virus.

Maybe if toxins had been exiled from the government or having any say in the U.S. whatsoever, all the Nixon underlings would not have damaged the U.S. more for the last 45 years. Just think if the same 'rat fuckers' had never been in the American picture since Nixon?

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
23. Agreed! I want all of Trump's donors publicly identified and charged as well.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 02:45 AM
Oct 2019

They have and continue to finance the greatest criminal enterprise in American history and must be brought to justice. I don't care if it's someone who donated $5 or $5 million. They've all contributed to the same criminal conspiracy that is undermining our democracy.

U.S. Code § 371. Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States.

No forgetting, no forgiving....EVER!

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