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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFacebook Fined For Artificially Inflating Video Views, Bankrupting Companies, Mass Job Losses
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They lied about views by 150 to 900%. They caused media companies to go bankrupt, jobs were lost, and yet Facebook gets away with a slap on the wrist and no acknowledgement of how they messed up.
And therein lies the problem for which Facebook was fined this week. The Hollywood Reporter:
Faced with claims of violating unfair competition law, breaching contract and committing fraud, Facebook contested advertisers' injuries, questioning whether they really relied on these metrics in deciding to purchase ad time. In early rounds in the litigation, Facebook was successful in getting the judge to pare the claims, though until a settlement was announced, several of the claims including fraud were still live. Even after agreeing to pay $40 million for settlement, Facebook maintains the suit is "without merit."
Let's be clear, $40 million dollars sounds like a lot of money, but it's really only about 0.18% of their annual income. A drop in the bucket. And again, they'll shell out that money without acknowledging any responsibility or culpability, the primary characteristic of Mark Zuckerberg. And this flat out fraud has hurt other companies, some of them to the ground.
And therein lies the problem for which Facebook was fined this week. The Hollywood Reporter:
The suit accused Facebook of acknowledging miscalculations in metrics upon press reports, but still not taking responsibility for the breadth of the problem. "The average viewership metrics were not inflated by only 60%-80%; they were inflated by some 150 to 900%," stated an amended complaint.
Faced with claims of violating unfair competition law, breaching contract and committing fraud, Facebook contested advertisers' injuries, questioning whether they really relied on these metrics in deciding to purchase ad time. In early rounds in the litigation, Facebook was successful in getting the judge to pare the claims, though until a settlement was announced, several of the claims including fraud were still live. Even after agreeing to pay $40 million for settlement, Facebook maintains the suit is "without merit."
Let's be clear, $40 million dollars sounds like a lot of money, but it's really only about 0.18% of their annual income. A drop in the bucket. And again, they'll shell out that money without acknowledging any responsibility or culpability, the primary characteristic of Mark Zuckerberg. And this flat out fraud has hurt other companies, some of them to the ground.
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Adam Conover Retweeted Scott Galloway
My former employer CollegeHumor did this. In order to beat YouTube, Facebook faked incredible viewership numbers, so CH pivoted to FB. So did Funny or Die, many others. The result: A once-thriving online comedy industry was decimated. A $40m fine is laughable; shut Facebook down.Link to tweet
Adam Conover goes to show how Facebook trashed College Humor by misrepresenting views to over-inflate bills.
Check out the rest of the article here: https://crooksandliars.com/2019/10/facebook-fined-artificially-inflating
I wonder if they are doing that with others who run private or small business Facebook ads.
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Facebook Fined For Artificially Inflating Video Views, Bankrupting Companies, Mass Job Losses (Original Post)
TheBlackAdder
Oct 2019
OP
Lots of journalists lost their jobs or took on some major changes because of these
WhiskeyGrinder
Oct 2019
#2
Remember what Facebook was created for, judging the appearance of college students behind their back
NightWatcher
Oct 2019
#3
Skittles
(153,169 posts)1. people, get OFF that site
IT IS GARBAGE
lame54
(35,293 posts)5. Hate Zuckerberg - he is evil
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,356 posts)2. Lots of journalists lost their jobs or took on some major changes because of these
numbers, too.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)3. Remember what Facebook was created for, judging the appearance of college students behind their back
He's not some benevolent computer whizz, he's a a pervy little grifter at heart.
Sure, it turned into whatever social media is, but it started as a way for people to rate faces if college students (usually boys rating girls).
He's always been a pig in my book.
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)4. I agree, shut FB down...nt
JHB
(37,160 posts)6. Fined ** a pittance ** compared to their base income
Link to tweet
The viewership metrics were inflated by 150 to 900%. Whole companies shifted their strategy to video. Companies going bankrupt, people losing jobs, FB gets away with 0.18% of annual income ($40M / $22B), a slap on the wrist.
Link to tweet
My former employer CollegeHumor did this. In order to beat YouTube, Facebook faked incredible viewership numbers, so CH pivoted to FB. So did Funny or Die, many others. The result: A once-thriving online comedy industry was decimated. A $40m fine is laughable; shut Facebook down.
Continuing Conover's thread:
A little more context: when I joined CH, fans watched videos on OUR SITE. That meant that we sold the ads & controlled the metrics. We had a killer ad sales team, and made custom videos for major brands. YouTube was mosty just to drive traffic to the site. It was a real business!
We posted links to FB, of course, but the links led to our site! I specifically remember the fateful day someone said You have to see the numbers native videos get on Facebook. Theyre INSANE. Too good to pass up! So we started posting videos natively to Facebook instead.
The problem: no way to monetize. In fact, instead of viewers coming to OUR site & seeing ads, Facebooks model is to CHARGE YOU for access to your fans. Site traffic plummeted. So did ad rates, and thus video budgets. Our FB views were awesome!! But we now know those were a lie.
The result: the beautiful constellation of independent comedy sites that represented a new emerging middle class of content creation shrunk and in many places collapsed. All because of Facebooks falsified viewer data (oh, and all the other shady shit they did)
A few provisos: YouTube was not the internet-swallowing behemoth it became in those days. Its quite possible that YouTube would have eviscerated the business in exactly the same way. But it was very apparent at the time that the real shift was Facebook.
Finally: despite FBs fuckery, CH has never stopped. Their new site is called @dropout. If you love independent comedy and want to support the people who make it, subscribe and watch the hilarious shit theyre making. Its better and weirder than ever.
For more on how tech monopolies are ruining the internet and killing smaller companies in the crib, listen to my interview with @profgalloway on @FactuallyPod - he lays it out in searing terms. https://www.earwolf.com/episode/the-internet-the-business-of-tech-and-happiness-with-scott-galloway/
We posted links to FB, of course, but the links led to our site! I specifically remember the fateful day someone said You have to see the numbers native videos get on Facebook. Theyre INSANE. Too good to pass up! So we started posting videos natively to Facebook instead.
The problem: no way to monetize. In fact, instead of viewers coming to OUR site & seeing ads, Facebooks model is to CHARGE YOU for access to your fans. Site traffic plummeted. So did ad rates, and thus video budgets. Our FB views were awesome!! But we now know those were a lie.
The result: the beautiful constellation of independent comedy sites that represented a new emerging middle class of content creation shrunk and in many places collapsed. All because of Facebooks falsified viewer data (oh, and all the other shady shit they did)
A few provisos: YouTube was not the internet-swallowing behemoth it became in those days. Its quite possible that YouTube would have eviscerated the business in exactly the same way. But it was very apparent at the time that the real shift was Facebook.
Finally: despite FBs fuckery, CH has never stopped. Their new site is called @dropout. If you love independent comedy and want to support the people who make it, subscribe and watch the hilarious shit theyre making. Its better and weirder than ever.
For more on how tech monopolies are ruining the internet and killing smaller companies in the crib, listen to my interview with @profgalloway on @FactuallyPod - he lays it out in searing terms. https://www.earwolf.com/episode/the-internet-the-business-of-tech-and-happiness-with-scott-galloway/
rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)7. They got caught in the past for something similar
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)8. Kick
mopinko
(70,120 posts)9. they sure do. i have a couple of pages.
i have a page for my farm that says i have over 1500 likers, but when i use the message function to look at them, i only see a couple hundred.
i also have a page for my artwork that i never post to any more, but i regularly get notifications that it has 20+ page views.