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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBreaking: Bolton instructed aide to report Giuliani pressure campaign to White House lawyer
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liberal N proud
(60,339 posts)choie
(4,111 posts)to be a whistleblower himself.
Mr.Bill
(24,312 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)that, Mueller looking at everything! He's got it all diagrammed on a giant whole board." He did not. Taught me - never ever assume there are secret good things that only one person knows about and none of the rest of us do. Countless times people said Pelosi had this super secret info on trump that no one else knew about. She did not. Luckily trump did a worse thing than before. Glad he did so all (most all) Dems united now.
Mr.Bill
(24,312 posts)we have not seen the Mueller report. We have seen the redacted Mueller report, after Barr redacted it.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Finish. Yet what kind of man doesn't let us know that and clams up.
Lock him up.
(6,939 posts)And Barr shut it down after pressuring Mueller he did not have the authority to indict Drumph on obstruction (but Congress does). Then Barr redacted it and mis-represented it to the public. Also, we don't yet know if articles of impeachment based on those crimes will be added to the case for a House vote.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)CatWoman
(79,302 posts)who woulda thought?
triron
(22,011 posts)Why a WH lawyer??
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)If he told them of criminal activity, they would have no choice but to report it to the DOJ.
triron
(22,011 posts)Report it to whom in Trump's DOJ? Barr?
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)As soon as he tells the WH counsel, his hands are clean. Its his get out of jail free card.
NJCher
(35,706 posts)They are officers of the court. Most likely would not risk losing their license to practice over trump.
There are exceptions, of course, notably Bahr.
Takket
(21,607 posts)He isnt a traitor, it is just that everything he wants to do to HELP America is wrong.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)As the smartest and most honest guy in the room. He's gonna sing like a canary.
hlthe2b
(102,328 posts)TeamPooka
(24,242 posts)OldRed2450
(710 posts)Can someone brief me on the article?
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)I am not part of whatever drug deal Rudy and Mulvaney are cooking up, Mr. Bolton, a Yale-trained lawyer, told Ms. Hill to tell White House lawyers, according to the testimony.
It was not the first time Mr. Bolton expressed grave concerns to Ms. Hill about Mr. Giuliani. Giulianis a hand grenade whos going to blow everybody up, Ms. Hill quoted Mr. Bolton saying during an earlier conversation.
OldRed2450
(710 posts)elleng
(131,052 posts)inside the White House last summer that so alarmed John R. Bolton, then the national security adviser, that he told an aide to alert White House lawyers, House investigators were told on Monday.
Mr. Bolton got into a sharp exchange on July 10 with Gordon D. Sondland, the Trump donor turned ambassador to the European Union, who was working with Rudolph W. Giuliani, the presidents personal lawyer, to press Ukraine to investigate Democrats, according to testimony provided to the investigators.
Mr. Bolton instructed Fiona Hill, the senior director for Russian and Eurasian affairs, to notify the chief lawyer for the National Security Council that Mr. Giuliani was working with Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, on a rogue operation with legal implications, Ms. Hill told the investigators, according to two people familiar with her closed-door testimony.
I am not part of whatever drug deal Rudy and Mulvaney are cooking up, Mr. Bolton, a Yale-trained lawyer, told Ms. Hill to tell White House lawyers, according to the testimony.
It was not the first time Mr. Bolton expressed grave concerns to Ms. Hill about Mr. Giuliani. Giulianis a hand grenade whos going to blow everybody up, Ms. Hill quoted Mr. Bolton saying during an earlier conversation.'
Mr.Bill
(24,312 posts)interference for Trump in NYC while he was mayor. Trump thought Rudy could do the same on an international level, but Rudy was way out of his league here.
hlthe2b
(102,328 posts)dem4decades
(11,301 posts)The government that are there to protect the nation and constitution.
He explicitly included Bolton in that group of people
elleng
(131,052 posts)OK with me, if it's true.
It's like Jason stopping Freddy.
dem4decades
(11,301 posts)Rule of law. I could imagine that all the people who work in the State Department have a sense of loyalty to the country and each other, not to Donald Trump's pocket book
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,806 posts)elleng
(131,052 posts)than he's been for all these past years.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)different people unlike us idealogically that weren't rotten to the core. (Scarborough comes to mind). But, it's all relative to trump et al now. I still despise Romney but he's not a super evil monster.
elleng
(131,052 posts)and now we should appreciate them, and especially those who are 'breaking' out of their 'rotten' shell.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)to government know about back channels to foreign governments? like Kushner did? Wasn't that like on day 1?
Makes me think the corruption had to be fully in place and operational in the GOP already. And why hasn't there been a Democrat...any democratic who overheard bad things in the halls of Congress? In the gym, wherever. Or any decent republican for that matter.
Bottom line regular people are 100% bamboozled.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)In fact, between the two of them, it is TRUMP who has called for ROMNEY'S impeachment!
What should we call those who protect the super evil monster?
Zambero
(8,965 posts)whose foreign policy ideas you hope are never implemented.
Renew Deal
(81,869 posts)Then he started to talk. Though I guess you could attribute leaks to him.
elleng
(131,052 posts)True Blue American
(17,988 posts)As a war hawk but it appears he cares more about his country than the gang of thieves we now have in the WhiteHouse.
It would e almost funny if the disliked man brought the whole thing down. Before this is over with we will know much more.
Schiff was smart enough to bar the weasel Gaetz yesterday. He is smarter than, Gaetz, Gym, Meadows put together! Along with Trump, Mulvaney, Pence and Barr. Barr can not stop Adam or Nancy!
tanyev
(42,594 posts)Renew Deal
(81,869 posts)At least to me...
MontanaMama
(23,334 posts)to blow something sky high...did he get his wish?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,806 posts)Bolton's desire to blow something up might be fulfilled, and in a good way for a change.
herding cats
(19,566 posts)I'm not surprised to see it revealed, I've called him lot of things but never blindly stupid. Where as Trump's toadies are a bunch of low IQ cons who've gotten away with it due to their names and connections. They assumed they were invisible. Bolton knows how to extract revenge. Giuliani is going down, and hopefully this will perk up the ladder.
Mr.Bill
(24,312 posts)An asshole, yes, but not stupid.
herding cats
(19,566 posts)Trump took him in his fold and didn't realize he's evil but not an idiot and he has a real will to survive.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)herding cats
(19,566 posts)I'd put money on Bolton being removed linking all this directly back to Trump.
BigmanPigman
(51,623 posts)Marcuse
(7,504 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Sogo
(4,990 posts)unbelievably, John Bolton could become the John Dean of Ukraine/Turkey-gate....
sweetloukillbot
(11,058 posts)Said something like "I'll be so pissed if John Bolton is the one who save's the country."
tulipsandroses
(5,124 posts)Intersting turn of events
pangaia
(24,324 posts)See post 18.