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dalton99a

(81,527 posts)
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:11 PM Oct 2019

Giuliani pressed Trump to eject Muslim cleric from U.S., a top priority of Turkish president (WP)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/giuliani-pressed-trump-to-eject-muslim-cleric-from-us-a-top-priority-of-turkish-president-former-officials-say/2019/10/15/bf43d1ec-ef68-11e9-b648-76bcf86eb67e_story.html

Giuliani pressed Trump to eject Muslim cleric from U.S., a top priority of Turkish president, former officials say
By Carol D. Leonnig, Ellen Nakashima, Josh Dawsey and Tom Hamburger
Oct. 15, 2019 at 8:01 p.m. CDT

Rudolph W. Giuliani privately urged President Trump in 2017 to extradite a Turkish cleric living in exile in the United States, a top priority of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, according to multiple former administration officials familiar with the discussions.

Giuliani, a Trump ally who later became the president’s personal attorney, repeatedly argued to Trump that the U.S. government should eject Fethullah Gulen from the country, according to the former officials, who spoke on the condition on anonymity to describe private conversations.

Turkey has demanded that the United States turn over Gulen, a permanent U.S. resident who lives in Pennsylvania, to stand trial on charges of plotting a 2016 coup attempt against Erdogan. Gulen has denied involvement in the plot.

Giuliani is now under scrutiny for his efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate Trump’s political rivals. His earlier attempts to persuade the president to turn over the Turkish cleric represent another instance in which he appears to have been pushing a shadow foreign policy from his perch outside government.

The former New York mayor brought up Gulen so frequently with Trump during visits to the White House that one former official described the subject as Giuliani’s “hobby horse.” He was so focused on the issue — “it was all Gulen,” recalled a second former official — that White House aides worried that Giuliani was making the case on behalf of the Turkish government, former officials said.

“We’re not going to arrest [Gulen] to do a solid for Erdogan,” the second official said, describing the internal thinking.

However, Trump appeared receptive to the idea, pressing his advisers about Gulen’s status, the people said.

One former senior administration official recalled that Trump asked frequently about why Gulen couldn’t be turned over to Turkey, referring to Erdogan as “my friend.”

Administration officials were overwhelmingly opposed to the idea and told the president that the move could violate the legal process and damage him politically.
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Giuliani pressed Trump to eject Muslim cleric from U.S., a top priority of Turkish president (WP) (Original Post) dalton99a Oct 2019 OP
Mike Flynn was an agent for Turkey too. Sneederbunk Oct 2019 #1
Was it Flynn leading an idea to kidnap the cleric? I think he told Clapper(?) about it... Karadeniz Oct 2019 #2
yes. Flynn and his son JDC Oct 2019 #3
Yep, for $15M dalton99a Oct 2019 #4
Good grief Backseat Driver Oct 2019 #5

Karadeniz

(22,541 posts)
2. Was it Flynn leading an idea to kidnap the cleric? I think he told Clapper(?) about it...
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:35 PM
Oct 2019

Clapper was advising the T. campaign, but didn't stay long.

dalton99a

(81,527 posts)
4. Yep, for $15M
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:47 PM
Oct 2019
https://www.wsj.com/articles/mueller-probes-flynns-role-in-alleged-plan-to-deliver-cleric-to-turkey-1510309982

Mueller Probes Flynn’s Role in Alleged Plan to Deliver Cleric to Turkey
Under alleged plan, ex-Trump adviser and his son were to be paid millions to forcibly remove Fethullah Gulen from U.S. and deliver him to Turkish custody
By James V. Grimaldi, Shane Harris and Aruna Viswanatha
Nov. 10, 2017 5:33 am ET

WASHINGTON — Special Counsel Robert Mueller is investigating former White House national security adviser Mike Flynn’s alleged role in a plan to forcibly remove a Muslim cleric living in the U.S. and deliver him to Turkey in return for millions of dollars, according to people familiar with the investigation.

Under the alleged proposal, Mr. Flynn and his son, Michael Flynn Jr., were to be paid as much as $15 million for delivering Fethullah Gulen to the Turkish government, according to people with knowledge of discussions Mr. Flynn had with Turkish representatives. President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who has pressed the U.S. to extradite him, views the cleric as a political enemy.

Federal Bureau of Investigation agents have asked at least four individuals about a meeting in mid-December at the ‘21’ Club in New York City, where Mr. Flynn and representatives of the Turkish government discussed removing Mr. Gulen, according to people with knowledge of the FBI’s inquiries. The discussions allegedly involved the possibility of transporting Mr. Gulen on a private jet to the Turkish prison island of Imrali, according to one of the people who has spoken to the FBI.

The Wall Street Journal previously reported on efforts by Turkish officials to get Mr. Gulen to Turkey without going through the U.S. extradition legal process, an effort that included an earlier meeting with Mr. Flynn in September 2016.

Backseat Driver

(4,393 posts)
5. Good grief
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:58 PM
Oct 2019

Gulan's here legally and has embraced issues of American concerns of choice in education - so now he's a legitimate target of the thugs and the slithery moron that now have betrayed allies in our fight against ISIS terrorism. Yeah, there be other corrupting issues caused by or under Gulen's agenda in America, and, sorry, but I'm suspicious. With better oversight, those cases of corruption could have been addressed, but as always, it's a rare thing to follow the money of the already rich and powerful. Wonder who's getting all that supportive cash to keep clueless Betsy in her cabinet seat besides DontheCon's gratefulness for those donations and familial connections???

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