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kimbutgar

(21,199 posts)
1. It would be great if Tulsi was exposed with airtight evidence
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 02:58 PM
Oct 2019

Like phone logs, covert meetings etc. Tulsi needs to be shadowed.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
4. Right wing 3rd party candidates got more votes than Stein in 2016.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 04:25 PM
Oct 2019

The bigger problem was suppressed turnout. The hundreds of thousands of Obama voters who simply didn't vote.

Unfortunately, 25 years of Hillary Hate took a toll. It contributed to a boost in 3rd party voting and, more than anything, to a decline in turnout.

tinrobot

(10,916 posts)
6. Doesn't matter. Enough people voted for Stein in the key states to make a difference.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 06:31 PM
Oct 2019

In Pennsylvania, Trump won by 44K votes. Stein got almost 50K.

tinrobot

(10,916 posts)
8. Stein spent a lot of time and energy tearing down Clinton.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 07:15 PM
Oct 2019

This was amplified by Russian money.

If she wasn't a candidate, and none of that happened, would those people have stayed home? We don't know.

All we know is that she worked to damage Clinton and also got enough votes to make a difference in the totals.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
10. Most of those who vote 3rd party are simply anti-establishment. Efforts must be focused on the base.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 07:22 PM
Oct 2019

A majority of 3rd party votes go to right wing 3rd party candidates. And that will likely be true again in 2020.

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