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BootinUp

(47,165 posts)
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 09:27 PM Oct 2019

Rachel just stitched the whole thing together ( video added )

Last edited Sat Oct 19, 2019, 08:42 AM - Edit history (3)

Maddow explains everything from Putin through Ukraine and Firtash through Rudy and Joe DiGenova And Victoria Toensing through Lev Parnas to Trumps re-election campaign.

Edit: and here’s the segment:

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Rachel just stitched the whole thing together ( video added ) (Original Post) BootinUp Oct 2019 OP
K&R, We're trying to pick our jaw off the floor. This is stuff in writing and being reported tonight uponit7771 Oct 2019 #1
I swear to the spaghetti monster that I predicted BootinUp Oct 2019 #3
+1, a majority of DU thought the KGOP was taking Russian money IE the silence but they're overtly uponit7771 Oct 2019 #9
We all knew. The day after the election we all lnew Blue_playwright Oct 2019 #52
In 2016. BootinUp Oct 2019 #4
excellent summation chillfactor Oct 2019 #6
+1 oasis Oct 2019 #55
Over 50 bank accounts being scrutinized. 50! WTF is going on. We are in a bizarre version of ' triron Oct 2019 #53
It is utterly Matthew28 Oct 2019 #2
She did the same thing every night with Mueller and somehow nothing happened Bonx Oct 2019 #5
i think this whole Ukranian and Doral thingys chillfactor Oct 2019 #8
Yes but this is Not the Mueller case. Much BootinUp Oct 2019 #13
Mueller created many of the gaps it seemed to me. triron Oct 2019 #54
democrats, liberals, and other relatively thoughtful intelligent people don't understand certainot Oct 2019 #23
Sadly, this. dhol82 Oct 2019 #29
Time to put a stop to it orangecrush Oct 2019 #34
Oh, things are happening now. orangecrush Oct 2019 #33
To me this Mueller 2.0. As long as the Republicans can put their finger on the scales of justice dem4decades Oct 2019 #41
This is far more overtly criminal The_jackalope Oct 2019 #43
I don't know a single republican who cops to watching Rachel. AkFemDem Oct 2019 #49
Yes, she did. Chiyo-chichi Oct 2019 #7
Vienna. Signed, Mr Rhetorical. dchill Oct 2019 #16
Good catch! BigmanPigman Oct 2019 #17
I am having a hard time with this whole thing. albacore Oct 2019 #10
She made an excellent case. And we in US are at a BootinUp Oct 2019 #11
Hillary did say it. barbtries Oct 2019 #28
You have to bdamomma Oct 2019 #47
It's always good to be skeptical and look at evidence. yardwork Oct 2019 #58
Guiliani bdamomma Oct 2019 #12
He showed up with both of them. dchill Oct 2019 #18
But as a civilian atty...isn't he looser? Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #38
All her shows seem great to me but this one and one sometime last week Jarqui Oct 2019 #14
I hope Joe and Victoria are squirming eleny Oct 2019 #15
I hope they're vomiting blood. dchill Oct 2019 #19
+1! eleny Oct 2019 #25
And Hannity too. BigmanPigman Oct 2019 #20
Lol! eleny Oct 2019 #24
+1 orangecrush Oct 2019 #37
She's been drawing a map for sometime now. She's brilliant. Pepsidog Oct 2019 #21
She is an artist. Who paints with words. gibraltar72 Oct 2019 #22
+1 dewsgirl Oct 2019 #32
Yeah, it was friggin incredible to watch her go through all this. patphil Oct 2019 #26
If there's a republican conspiracy why haven't Democrats Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #40
We knew this before the 2016 election. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2019 #27
Yup. dhol82 Oct 2019 #31
Nunes has a whole other corrupt plot relating of all things, dewsgirl Oct 2019 #35
It is an Organized Crime Party. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2019 #39
Whatever Happened with Organized Crime? OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2019 #42
I think Bill Barr"s real day job The_jackalope Oct 2019 #44
Does she mention cilla4progress Oct 2019 #30
One of my faves, that and Mueller she Wrote. dewsgirl Oct 2019 #36
Sarah Kendzior and Andrea Chalupa klook Oct 2019 #59
Yes! cilla4progress Oct 2019 #60
I couldn't believe how fast that hour went! pazzyanne Oct 2019 #45
Rachel was great tonight Gothmog Oct 2019 #46
She was very good bdamomma Oct 2019 #48
In just about any room Rachael is the smartest person in the room covering politics. gordianot Oct 2019 #50
Fri. Night Rachel Show repeats at 9:00 pacific. oasis Oct 2019 #51
She interviewed one of the authors of this bombshell from Propublica. Here is the article. triron Oct 2019 #56
Added the video to the OP. Kick BootinUp Oct 2019 #57
Good. triron Oct 2019 #61
how could obamas nsa,justice dept not have known about this crap? questionseverything Oct 2019 #63
I just love how she ties things together... Wounded Bear Oct 2019 #62

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
1. K&R, We're trying to pick our jaw off the floor. This is stuff in writing and being reported tonight
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 09:34 PM
Oct 2019

... and it's freakin scary.

A Kremlin tied oligarch making up crap on Biden on paper and Guiliani trying to get them into the US

Trump Super PAC taking Russian money

Federal contractors writing checks directly to Trump PACs.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
9. +1, a majority of DU thought the KGOP was taking Russian money IE the silence but they're overtly
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 09:46 PM
Oct 2019

... pushing Russian money into Trump super pacs and openly giving Trump superpacs money from federal contractors !!!

WTF !?!?!

Blue_playwright

(1,568 posts)
52. We all knew. The day after the election we all lnew
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 12:01 AM
Oct 2019

This was coming. I’m surprised it isn’t worse, frankly.

chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
6. excellent summation
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 09:42 PM
Oct 2019

thank you for the post...Rachel has such a great way to bring language to a laymen's level.

triron

(22,007 posts)
53. Over 50 bank accounts being scrutinized. 50! WTF is going on. We are in a bizarre version of '
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 12:06 AM
Oct 2019

'Alice in Wonderland'.

Matthew28

(1,798 posts)
2. It is utterly
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 09:37 PM
Oct 2019

Treasonous and shocking. Trump and his entire admin is nothing more then a russian mob arm.

BootinUp

(47,165 posts)
13. Yes but this is Not the Mueller case. Much
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 10:02 PM
Oct 2019

Easier to string together fewer gaps, like no gaps.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
23. democrats, liberals, and other relatively thoughtful intelligent people don't understand
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 10:21 PM
Oct 2019

what 1500 coordinated radio stations are doing all day in 40 states with 80 senators

dem4decades

(11,296 posts)
41. To me this Mueller 2.0. As long as the Republicans can put their finger on the scales of justice
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 10:55 PM
Oct 2019

There will be none. I'm not very hopeful.

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
43. This is far more overtly criminal
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 11:00 PM
Oct 2019

Mueller was a connect-the-dots exercise. Here the criminal activity is in plain sight.

Chiyo-chichi

(3,581 posts)
7. Yes, she did.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 09:43 PM
Oct 2019

Interesting that Firtash is living in exile in Vienna.
Where were Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman (and possibly Guiliani) headed again?

albacore

(2,399 posts)
10. I am having a hard time with this whole thing.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 09:51 PM
Oct 2019

I've listened to Rachel, and she certainly has a strong case.
What I'm having trouble with is that this all seems like some giant, overarching conspiracy. And I HATE that thought. It sounds like those bullshit plots/conspiracy theories they made up about Clinton. You know... this is related to that and that and it all goes back to Clinton.
If this is even close to true...all this shit tracing back to Russian mob guys and oligarchs... it is the biggest conspiracy in our history. By far!
And the worst part is that all the major players will never be caught, never serve time, never be impoverished.
We've never seen anything like these times.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
28. Hillary did say it.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 10:32 PM
Oct 2019

"a vast right wing conspiracy"

I think putin is using trump to completely realign the USA away from its allies. we, and our democracy, are in peril.

bdamomma

(63,875 posts)
47. You have to
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 11:22 PM
Oct 2019

remember Steve Bannon who is Leninist wanted to see the government crash and burn.

Putin is doing the same thing he wants to see our country split up, we have to in some way prove him wrong.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
58. It's always good to be skeptical and look at evidence.
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 08:05 AM
Oct 2019

For instance, it doesn't make sense to believe that Hillary killed somebody just because somebody says it. There's no evidence. It's just an accusation, based on nothing, that gets thrown out there and repeated. With no evidence, there's no reason to believe it's true.

Is there evidence for what Rachel is saying about Trump? Yes.

bdamomma

(63,875 posts)
12. Guiliani
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 09:56 PM
Oct 2019

is the next to go to trial, and he even showed up at Pappy Bush's funeral with one of those Ukrainian guys.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
14. All her shows seem great to me but this one and one sometime last week
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 10:04 PM
Oct 2019

were outstanding in pulling the story together.

I'm sure there will be other tentacles run down from this but the core of it is quite simple.

I really doubt the majority of the country would tolerate this but I also doubt whether the majority of the country is ever going to find out about it or understand it because of how messed up the media is.

BigmanPigman

(51,609 posts)
20. And Hannity too.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 10:11 PM
Oct 2019

He was pushing their BS. An article in Time mag. had all of them in an equation....

Rudy + (Joseph + Victoria × Hannity) × Barr/Zelinsky = ?????

patphil

(6,182 posts)
26. Yeah, it was friggin incredible to watch her go through all this.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 10:28 PM
Oct 2019

No wonder there have been a lot of calls on the Republican side to bring this impeachment investigation to a head as quickly as possible.
The depth, and breath of corruption that we are just beginning to see uncovered is astounding.
And all the paths seem to lead back to Putin.
It tells me that Speaker Pelosi knows a lot more than we think.
The phrase "all deliberate speed" comes to mind.
Keep things moving forward, but give it time for the truth to come out.
I think January is the earliest the House should have the formal vote on what looks like a growing list of Articles of Impeachment.

Patrick Phillips

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
40. If there's a republican conspiracy why haven't Democrats
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 10:54 PM
Oct 2019

spoken up about it? How can you be around these people, work out in the gym, hear the conversation in the hallway and not ever hear or say anything?

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
27. We knew this before the 2016 election.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 10:31 PM
Oct 2019

We all should acknowledge this. We knew Trump was Kompramised before the election. No big surprise.

But pay attention to the Trump Fluffers. There are many, but take out the Jim Jordans and Devin Nune's....they've got nothing.

No Republican was elected for their legislative skills. They were elected because, they were weak, compromised, and subject to a Party line. That's the way Republican's roll.....


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dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
35. Nunes has a whole other corrupt plot relating of all things,
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 10:46 PM
Oct 2019

to Welch's juice and Portugal. There used be an amazing leak account that laid it all out over the course of a week. Back when you could take your time and process the news.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
39. It is an Organized Crime Party.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 10:51 PM
Oct 2019

This is the USA syndicate under DJT. Answering to Putin. Like Johnson,like MBS, like that NK Fuckhead,like Erdogen. We better figure this out soon.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
42. Whatever Happened with Organized Crime?
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 10:56 PM
Oct 2019

Rudi pretty much killed the Italian Mafia in NYC....but he gave the Russian's free reign to invade and destroy this country. No wonder he plots aginst the USA. He is owned, too.

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
44. I think Bill Barr"s real day job
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 11:08 PM
Oct 2019

Is to run interference for Dmitri Firtash, to block his extradition. Screwing with the Mueller probe was just a sideline. JMHO.

klook

(12,157 posts)
59. Sarah Kendzior and Andrea Chalupa
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 01:38 PM
Oct 2019

have a great podcast in Gaslit Nation. And they’ve been way ahead of almost everybody else in connecting these dots.

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
60. Yes!
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 01:54 PM
Oct 2019

Absolutely!

I've listened before and listened to only a portion, I think, of their most recent cast.

I feel like I understand the enormity of it now. Putin and Russian mob and organized crime and Republicans and evangelicals and NRA ..

Oh my.

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
45. I couldn't believe how fast that hour went!
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 11:16 PM
Oct 2019

Tons of information and I am still breathless from what I learned.

gordianot

(15,239 posts)
50. In just about any room Rachael is the smartest person in the room covering politics.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 11:54 PM
Oct 2019

I am also convinced she has help and some great connections that help connect the dots. Watching her show tonight I had the feeling what she knows came from very reliable sources. Her reporting stands out of the crowd.

triron

(22,007 posts)
56. She interviewed one of the authors of this bombshell from Propublica. Here is the article.
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 12:16 AM
Oct 2019
https://www.propublica.org/article/the-pro-trump-super-pac-at-the-center-of-the-ukraine-scandal-has-faced-multiple-campaign-finance-complaints

"Randy Perkins donated $500,000 to America First Action, a pro-Trump super PAC, a day after his company won federal money as part of a contract. The same PAC was dubbed “Committee 1” in a federal indictment alleging illegal donations from two Rudy Giuliani associates."

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
63. how could obamas nsa,justice dept not have known about this crap?
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 08:08 PM
Oct 2019

I get that democrats never want to look political but it sure seems like trump was breaking every law in the book during his campaign?

just seems like he should of been caught long ago

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
62. I just love how she ties things together...
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 02:50 PM
Oct 2019

Plus, she digs into the history of what has been happening and pulls the threads together on a timeline.

She's pretty good.

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