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President Donald Trump is feeling some heat at the moment, after he seemingly flipped off a female astronaut when she fact-checked him during a press conference. The moment was captured by C-Span cameras as Trump was speaking over the phone with astronauts Christina Koch and Jessica Meir during their "All Woman Spacewalk." Trump referred to the occasion as "the first time for a woman outside the Space Station," but Meir subtly corrected him by saying that there have been other women to spacewalk, but this is the first time that more than one woman has done a spacewalk on a ship at the same time. Trump then used his middle finger to scratch his head, and the action is being perceived as a rude gesture toward Meir.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)he's has done this.
malaise
(269,054 posts)and arrogant in the midst of his unbelievable ignorance
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)I just can't get over what a fucking ASSHOLE this guy is....fortunately, he will go down in history as the most hated POS since Hitler.
Demovictory9
(32,457 posts)he was new to office, they were gathering for a photo shoot and he shoved one out of the way. Rightwingers denied what we could clearly see. that was the beginning of him getting away with all manner of crude behavior. They and he just deny it.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)I know it sounds like kind of an odd question. Putin has some sort of beef with that guys. So what we thought as him being an oaf. I imagine he may have done it to impress Putin.
Kid Berwyn
(14,909 posts)President Trump shoving the prime minister of Montenegro
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/07/18/after-infamous-2017-pushing-prime-minister-trump-has-gall-call-people-montenegro
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)House of Putin on Audible. And he mentions the PM of Montenegro and this automatically popped in my head. Thank you.
Kid Berwyn
(14,909 posts)He lifted up the lid...
Trumps Russian Laundromat
How to use Trump Tower and other luxury high-rises to clean dirty money, run an international crime syndicate, and propel a failed real estate developer into the White House.
By CRAIG UNGER
The New Republic, July , 2017
Excerpt...
Trump made his first trip to Russia in 1987, only a few years before the collapse of the Soviet Union. Invited by Soviet Ambassador Yuri Dubinin, Trump was flown to Moscow and Leningradall expenses paidto talk business with high-ups in the Soviet command. In The Art of the Deal, Trump recounted the lunch meeting with Dubinin that led to the trip. One thing led to another, he wrote, and now Im talking about building a large luxury hotel, across the street from the Kremlin, in partnership with the Soviet government.
Over the years, Trump and his sons would try and fail five times to build a new Trump Tower in Moscow. But for Trump, what mattered most were the lucrative connections he had begun to make with the Kremlinand with the wealthy Russians who would buy so many of his properties in the years to come. Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross section of a lot of our assets, Donald Trump Jr. boasted at a real estate conference in 2008. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.
The money, illicit and otherwise, began to rain in earnest after the Soviet Union fell in 1991. President Boris Yeltsins shift to a market economy was so abrupt that cash-rich gangsters and corrupt government officials were able to privatize and loot state-held assets in oil, coal, minerals, and banking. Yeltsin himself, in fact, would later describe Russia as the biggest mafia state in the world. After Vladimir Putin succeeded Yeltsin as president, Russian intelligence effectively joined forces with the countrys mobsters and oligarchs, allowing them to operate freely as long as they strengthen Putins power and serve his personal financial interests. According to James Henry, a former chief economist at McKinsey & Company who consulted on the Panama Papers, some $1.3 trillion in illicit capital has poured out of Russia since the 1990s.
At the top of the sprawling criminal enterprise was Semion Mogilevich. Beginning in the early 1980s, according to the FBI, the short, squat Ukrainian was the key money-laundering contact for the Solntsevskaya Bratva, or Brotherhood, one of the richest criminal syndicates in the world. Before long, he was running a multibillion-dollar worldwide racket of his own. Mogilevich wasnt feared because he was the most violent gangster, but because he was reputedly the smartest. The FBI has credited the brainy don, who holds a degree in economics from Lviv University, with a staggering range of crimes. He ran drug trafficking and prostitution rings on an international scale; in one characteristic deal, he bought a bankrupt airline to ship heroin from Southeast Asia into Europe. He used a jewelry business in Moscow and Budapest as a front for art that Russian gangsters stole from museums, churches, and synagogues all over Europe. He has also been accused of selling some $20 million in stolen weapons, including ground-to-air missiles and armored troop carriers, to Iran. He uses this wealth and power to not only further his criminal enterprises, the FBI says, but to influence governments and their economies.
In Russia, Mogilevichs influence reportedly reaches all the way to the top. In 2005, Alexander Litvinenko, a Russian intelligence agent who defected to London, recorded an interview with investigators detailing his inside knowledge of the Kremlins ties to organized crime. Mogilevich, he said in broken English, have good relationship with Putin since 1994 or 1993. A year later Litvinenko was dead, apparently poisoned by agents of the Kremlin.
Continues...
https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Podcast a couple months ago, I've been binging their podcast lately. I thought I would try a refresher. There is quite a bit I missed.
brush
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what he was doing.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,349 posts)brush
(53,787 posts)astronauts, he makes fun of them on the sly to his chauvanistic baseaccomplished women, astronauts! He could never come close to them and he's making fun.
IMPEACH THIS MFer NOW!
Grokenstein
(5,725 posts)For example, one clown on another forum loves posting and reposting a GIF of Puppet Sharpie during one of the debates with HRC. He's doing his "I don't see you I don't hear you, la la la" gazing-into-space bit while wagging his index finger with the thumb extended out. You know, the "loser" sign--just not held to his forehead. Somebody once told me the world is gonna roll me, not the sharpest tool in the shed...
And then of course there's his regular use of the "OK" gesture that the alt-right has co-opted.
lettucebe
(2,336 posts)because wow, it was pretty obvious -- unless he has a habit of using his middle finger in this way, in which it was just weird.
Who the H writes his crib notes? Makes me wonder if everyone in his orbit is doing whatever they can to make him look the fool that he is.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)He can't stand women who are smarter and more accomplished than he is. Which is just about every woman.
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,827 posts)Presidential
I invented that gesture!
It's called 'being rude with plausible deniability!'
Have copyright on it, will be suing Trump!
zaj
(3,433 posts)Watch the video at the link. He just rubbed his forehead with his middle finger. I've done that 1000 times too.
This isn't worthy of our energy one little bit
Farmer-Rick
(10,185 posts)You are inadvertently insulting others.
Raven123
(4,849 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,185 posts)AnotherMother4Peace
(4,246 posts)His fuck you signs, the way he assaulted women - all just a misunderstanding.
zaj
(3,433 posts)First, you are attacking an ally
Second, I only said what I said. And I only believe what I said. Not all the false things that you pretended that I said
Third, it divides us to attack each other like that
Please don't do that
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,246 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,185 posts)So you are dividing us by making weird comments about using the middle finger.
Most people living in the US, know that gesture and stopped doing it in high school.
It's a cultural thing. Living in the US makes you easily aware of the meaning of the middle finger.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)before that motion with his finger.
I hate to sound like I'm defending that meathead, but I don't think he was flipping her off.
Farmer-Rick
(10,185 posts)If you use your middle finger to scratch your forehead regularly in the US, you should stop it immediately. You are insulting people and they see you as rude, too. Just some advise to keep you from insulting others.
Also, if you ever in your life make it to national tv, don't use your middle finger stuck out like that. It's a cultural thing that most US citizens learn about in high school.
Even if he does it because he's a social idiot like a Russian troll, it a very sad statement on his intellect.
zaj
(3,433 posts)... agreed.
PatSeg
(47,501 posts)in a similar way, including Obama. Trump does more than enough off the wall crap to warrant attention. This is pushing it a bit.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)DUH yeah, dude. I would say so...
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,742 posts)he stuck it up his runny nose.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)licked it clean.
malaise
(269,054 posts)brettdale
(12,382 posts)But, its really a video that I wouldnt make any effort to try and make it go viral.
Its not like he just clearly purposely flip the bird to her.
BigMin28
(1,177 posts)And for the love of God, why is Ivanka sitting there?
malaise
(269,054 posts)They disgust me
BigmanPigman
(51,609 posts)blond bobble head. I guess she is earning her $84 million for the year.
BigMin28
(1,177 posts)nt
bdamomma
(63,870 posts)she's his babysitter.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)has had "kidney surgery" like her step mother.
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)Plastic, cheap people, with all the FAKE enhancements money can buy. Yuck.
madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)The defect in his being renders him non-human.
ARPad95
(1,671 posts)while he's sitting between Omarosa and Ben Carson:
Mike Pence sitting directly across from him definitely noticed and tRump says, "Are you okay, Mike?"
Asshole!
malaise
(269,054 posts)A low life is a low life
tblue37
(65,403 posts)ARPad95
(1,671 posts)as they're settling in their chairs. I have no doubt in my mind tRump did it deliberately (twice) especially after he realized Mike Pence noticed and asked in a sarcastic tone, "Are you okay, Mike?"
tblue37
(65,403 posts)iluvtennis
(19,862 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)The bird returns to the nest. .
malaise
(269,054 posts)DUzy
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)kentuck
(111,102 posts)He's the role model for America?
MyOwnPeace
(16,927 posts)because they're so far away he couldn't reach out and grab them by the pu............., er, arm and thank them for their service.
The Liberal Lion
(1,414 posts)and many may disagree with me, but I saw this and I didn't think he was flipping the bird. NO, I'm not defending trump. Not a chance, but I when I saw it I thought at first he was flipping her off, but then I said to myself "no way, that's just how he brushes his hair away". I could be wrong tho ...
sweetloukillbot
(11,029 posts)I remember doing that sort of shit in grade school to get away with it.
Jim__
(14,077 posts)His daddy told him so.
Shipwack
(2,162 posts)... as well as worthless and good for nothing.
It's why he's such a crap human being.
Then again, there are many people who had crappy abusive parents that didn't turn out to be crap human beings, so maybe I shouldn't be giving him an excuse...
I really don't know...
BumRushDaShow
(129,092 posts)And what was hilarious is that he was obviously given a paper with remarks to read and he refused to do it, going off-script while Ivanka winced and Pence tried to disappear into the chair. And because of the delay due to the speed of communications to the station, they had started responding to his initial comments as he started back up again, resulting in overtalk for a bit... until finally there was a long enough pause for one of them to start her own prepared remarks afterwhich the other followed, all without a pause that was long enough for him to continue again... So that made him even madder because he had to sit there and listen and couldn't get a word in edgewise. Then he started talking about sending someone to the moon (as if no one had ever been there before).
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)In a fucking trash can with a rocket booster.
packman
(16,296 posts)Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)What else could he do?
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)slumcamper
(1,606 posts)To be swept into the cesspool of speculation over the every move of this narcissist plays directly into his hands.
Move on. Nothing to see here.
Focus on the bigger issues, e.g., corruption, abuse of power, obstruction of justice, violation of Geneva Convention Article II--genocide, crimes against humanity, COLLUSION with unfriendly powers, a foreign policy blunder that will affect the nation for decades...
A charge of possibly flipping the bird to astronauts on the phone rises to the top at DU????
For fuck's sake. I'm disgusted that such petty bullshit obfuscates our focus and discussion on matters of grave importance.
Kaleva
(36,309 posts)I suggest changing the last paragraph in your post to something like this:
"For fuck's sake. I'm disgusted that such petty bullshit obfuscates my focus and discussion on matters of grave importance."
The above would, IMHO, be more honest.
Take care. I'm off to read the posts in the Lounge and Weird News. There may be breaking news about Florida Man.
SuprstitionAintthWay
(386 posts)and am a feminist, don't see this as either a conscious or unconscious insult to our wonderful astronaut.
I just see a bored (someone else is talking) and socially maladroit fat man moving strands of his precious, absurd clown weave out of his face in a fittingly stupid way.
pepperbear
(5,648 posts)He stumbles through it, and remember the whole thing about his staff giving him only bullet points and pictures and how he doesn't like to brief.
Yeah, he's a hot mess without the bird.
nahant
(93 posts)Once again the orange pig shows his manners and just who and what he is.
He needs to be removed and really soon before he nukes some city some where that their government dared to piss him off.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,107 posts)more than this man, and it's ONLY because I am not aware of ALL his crimes.
spanone
(135,844 posts)It's right up his alley.
malaise
(269,054 posts)moving hair, etc and I could not find this middle finger shit. Of course it was deliberate. How dare you contradict the chosen one.
spanone
(135,844 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)A low life in steroids - the ugliest American ever
Botany
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right after the astronaut corrected him.
Trump was flipping the bird. The man has the class of rat's asshole.
"Hey why did you have a woman break the record?"
And why the hell is Ivanka there?
Stargazer09
(2,132 posts)Twitter thread by a body language expert:
Link to tweet
Dr. Jack Brown
@DrGJackBrown
THREAD: Body Language Analysis No. 4400: Trump speaks with First All-Female Astronaut Spacewalk #Nonverbal #EmotionalIntelligence #BodyLanguage #BodyLanguageExpert #Nonverbal #TrumpFlipsOffAstronaut #firstallfemalespacewalk #DonaldTrump #MiddleFinger
GreatCaesarsGhost
(8,584 posts)potus being pos.
Stargazer09
(2,132 posts)How much I miss having a president who didnt get offended so easily.
Hes so disgusting.
at140
(6,110 posts)Stargazer09
(2,132 posts)Dr. Jack has a lot of knowledge to share, and I enjoy reading his threads.
Kid Berwyn
(14,909 posts)Drumpf demonstrated how little he knows about the history of space exploration, the emerging role of women in NASA, and why the future is so frighteningly disgusting with a militarized space force led by an Unstable Moron.
malaise
(269,054 posts)ClusterFreak
(3,112 posts)Someone - let alone a woman - deigned to correct him. So of course he did that.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)So sick of her.
PatrickforO
(14,576 posts)I think Trump is jumping around in a really big frying pan, higher and higher, until finally he jumps right out...into the fire!
Firestorm49
(4,035 posts)NellieStarbuck
(266 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,092 posts)and as usual, he went completely off-script, leading to the eventual fact-check.
If you watch the video, you can see her wincing during some of it.
lsewpershad
(2,620 posts)So damned obvious.
MFM008
(19,816 posts)AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!
He expected her to remain silent and also his bullshit to as as fact.
He's a really small man in every sense of the word
albacore
(2,399 posts)Remember the giant tsunami of lies, "scandals", insults, sexist, and racist shit thrown at Obama... and Clinton?
The gesture is at least debatable, whereas "Pizzagate" and "Birtherism" were made up from whole cloth.
I've made up several vile rumors about trump... only to find later that there is evidence that those rumors might be true. Raping children is an example. I thought trump was more of a "Power Fucker"... having sex with women he could get because of his wealth and position. Come to find out, he probably DID have sex with underage girls.
Why give trump the benefit of the doubt... on anything?
Aussie105
(5,401 posts)Trump's poor use of language and questionable body language with those of past presidents.
The careful choice of words, the concentration on grammar structure and intonation, the careful control of body signals . . . I so miss those signs of intelligence shown by past presidents.
Like Obama.
Miss him.
Hope he is staying sane in this pathetic psychodrama playing out on the world stage.
malaise
(269,054 posts)No one could have told me this was possible