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malaise

(269,054 posts)
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 07:07 PM Oct 2019

Donald Trump Flips off Female Astronaut After She Fact Checks Him During Press Conference

https://popculture.com/trending/2019/10/18/donald-trump-flip-off-female-astronaut-fact-check-press-conference/
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President Donald Trump is feeling some heat at the moment, after he seemingly flipped off a female astronaut when she fact-checked him during a press conference. The moment was captured by C-Span cameras as Trump was speaking over the phone with astronauts Christina Koch and Jessica Meir during their "All Woman Spacewalk." Trump referred to the occasion as "the first time for a woman outside the Space Station," but Meir subtly corrected him by saying that there have been other women to spacewalk, but this is the first time that more than one woman has done a spacewalk on a ship at the same time. Trump then used his middle finger to scratch his head, and the action is being perceived as a rude gesture toward Meir.
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Donald Trump Flips off Female Astronaut After She Fact Checks Him During Press Conference (Original Post) malaise Oct 2019 OP
There was a Twitter thread earlier with a couple other times dewsgirl Oct 2019 #1
He's so fucking uncouth malaise Oct 2019 #2
Why yes, yes he is. dewsgirl Oct 2019 #10
Exactly AZ8theist Oct 2019 #72
remember when he physically pushed his way through a crowd of world leaders? Demovictory9 Oct 2019 #32
Do you remember if that was the president of Montenegro? dewsgirl Oct 2019 #50
PM Dusko Marković Kid Berwyn Oct 2019 #59
So it was him. I'm listening to the House of Trump dewsgirl Oct 2019 #64
You are most welcome! Craig Unger is TOPS! Kid Berwyn Oct 2019 #65
I listened when it first came out. He was on Gaslit nation dewsgirl Oct 2019 #66
What a disgusting man. No one scratches their forehead like that. He knew... brush Oct 2019 #3
yet he's too chickenshit to do it openly Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #36
I hope women voters take note. On a day of accomplishment by two women... brush Oct 2019 #49
He pulls that crap all the time and his cult loves the "signalling" Grokenstein Oct 2019 #76
I'd be interested to see other times he's done this and whether it is deliberate lettucebe Oct 2019 #4
He is such an asshole. smirkymonkey Oct 2019 #5
Kick dalton99a Oct 2019 #6
Presidential keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #24
Hey! Aussie105 Oct 2019 #51
ARGHH Gothmog Oct 2019 #71
No... That's not what he did. zaj Oct 2019 #7
I agree. Owl Oct 2019 #23
Stop using your middle finger to scratch your forehead Farmer-Rick Oct 2019 #86
I agree with you too. Raven123 Oct 2019 #27
So Traitor Trump is just too damn stupid to live with others. Farmer-Rick Oct 2019 #87
Awww Shucks. He's just an innocent dope. Everything's just a cawinky dink with him: his kkk signs, AnotherMother4Peace Oct 2019 #34
Why would you do that? zaj Oct 2019 #38
Trump's a passive aggressive asshole. He does shit on purpose. I didn't attack you. AnotherMother4Peace Oct 2019 #41
No you have decided giving the middle finger is a ok Farmer-Rick Oct 2019 #89
Agreed. Trump didn't have time to process what the astronaut was saying Progressive Jones Oct 2019 #55
So, Trump is just too dumb to know what the middle finger means? Farmer-Rick Oct 2019 #85
That's a far stronger criticism... zaj Oct 2019 #88
I've seen a lot of people use their middle finger PatSeg Oct 2019 #97
"You are at a very high altitude." pangaia Oct 2019 #8
...and then he stuck it back up his ample stern. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2019 #9
And immediately after that... greatauntoftriplets Oct 2019 #12
and then... TheCowsCameHome Oct 2019 #13
Sniff sniff malaise Oct 2019 #15
you know he might of done brettdale Oct 2019 #11
Low class through and through. BigMin28 Oct 2019 #14
Great question malaise Oct 2019 #16
That is what I wanted to know when I saw her BigmanPigman Oct 2019 #28
On the backs of the American taxpayers BigMin28 Oct 2019 #42
Ivanka what a waste she is bdamomma Oct 2019 #61
Looks like Ivanka Scarsdale Oct 2019 #70
Yeah her boobs have "grown" ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #82
There is something so deeply wrong with him. madaboutharry Oct 2019 #17
He did it twice in a row here... ARPad95 Oct 2019 #18
Thanks for this malaise Oct 2019 #20
Time stamp?? nt tblue37 Oct 2019 #79
He does it within the first couple of minutes of the video... ARPad95 Oct 2019 #94
Thanks. nt tblue37 Oct 2019 #95
What a fkn cretin trump is - GAH iluvtennis Oct 2019 #19
Scratched at his hair with his middle finger? Scurrilous Oct 2019 #21
Hahahahaha malaise Oct 2019 #22
Good one. Hoyt Oct 2019 #29
He's an insensitive, unstable, vulgar (Fill in the blank). kentuck Oct 2019 #25
Aw, he's just disappointed.......... MyOwnPeace Oct 2019 #26
I'll be honest The Liberal Lion Oct 2019 #30
I think he's trying to be sly about it sweetloukillbot Oct 2019 #52
It's her fault. She implied that Trump was wrong. Trump's never wrong. Jim__ Oct 2019 #31
Actually, I'd be willing to bet that Dad told him he was wrong all the time... Shipwack Oct 2019 #46
I live-posted that fiasco here- BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #33
Can we send him to the moon? ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #35
What a prick packman Oct 2019 #37
Yeah. Of course he did. Mc Mike Oct 2019 #39
I hate the lowlife asshole amuse bouche Oct 2019 #40
In the cosmic scheme of things, this is a non-story. slumcamper Oct 2019 #43
You shouldn't allow such non-stories to side track you from what's really important. Kaleva Oct 2019 #44
It's a strange rorschach test when I who hate the manbaby with the heat of 1000 suns SuprstitionAintthWay Oct 2019 #67
I honestly don't think he was flipping her off, but his read is laughable pepperbear Oct 2019 #45
Douch bag nahant Oct 2019 #47
What a disgusting MFer. There are only a few humans that I HATE Ferrets are Cool Oct 2019 #48
...of course he did! spanone Oct 2019 #53
Last night I searched the web for photos of people scratching their foreheads. malaise Oct 2019 #56
A lowlife, sophomoric gesture from a lowlife, sophomoric man. spanone Oct 2019 #57
That simple malaise Oct 2019 #58
+1000000000000 I can't believe the # of posters that said he wasn't doing that when it was Botany Oct 2019 #84
It was deliberate Stargazer09 Oct 2019 #54
he did it deliberately right after she corrected him. GreatCaesarsGhost Oct 2019 #60
I can't tell you Stargazer09 Oct 2019 #78
Good video to watch, thanks for posting..eom at140 Oct 2019 #77
You're welcome. Stargazer09 Oct 2019 #80
No opportunity to demonstrate how low he is goes unused. Kid Berwyn Oct 2019 #62
Perfect malaise Oct 2019 #63
All I can say is of course he did that. ClusterFreak Oct 2019 #68
Why is Vapid Beth Dutton next to him? Drahthaardogs Oct 2019 #69
Feeling some heat? LOL. PatrickforO Oct 2019 #73
What an asshole. The President? Really? Grade school prick. Firestorm49 Oct 2019 #74
WTF is Ivanka doing there? NellieStarbuck Oct 2019 #75
I think she wrote his remarks BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #81
Misogynist pig. lsewpershad Oct 2019 #83
being schooled by a woman MFM008 Oct 2019 #90
Yep malaise Oct 2019 #91
What difference does it make if it's true or not? albacore Oct 2019 #92
Contrast Aussie105 Oct 2019 #93
To be kind he's a low-life vulgarian malaise Oct 2019 #96
To be fair... LessAspin Oct 2019 #98
Donnie never progressed past his 6th grade sense of etiquette. Nitram Oct 2019 #99

AZ8theist

(5,475 posts)
72. Exactly
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 02:25 PM
Oct 2019

I just can't get over what a fucking ASSHOLE this guy is....fortunately, he will go down in history as the most hated POS since Hitler.

Demovictory9

(32,457 posts)
32. remember when he physically pushed his way through a crowd of world leaders?
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 08:41 PM
Oct 2019

he was new to office, they were gathering for a photo shoot and he shoved one out of the way. Rightwingers denied what we could clearly see. that was the beginning of him getting away with all manner of crude behavior. They and he just deny it.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
50. Do you remember if that was the president of Montenegro?
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 11:32 PM
Oct 2019

I know it sounds like kind of an odd question. Putin has some sort of beef with that guys. So what we thought as him being an oaf. I imagine he may have done it to impress Putin.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
64. So it was him. I'm listening to the House of Trump
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 11:49 AM
Oct 2019

House of Putin on Audible. And he mentions the PM of Montenegro and this automatically popped in my head. Thank you.

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
65. You are most welcome! Craig Unger is TOPS!
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 11:59 AM
Oct 2019

He lifted up the lid...



Trump’s Russian Laundromat

How to use Trump Tower and other luxury high-rises to clean dirty money, run an international crime syndicate, and propel a failed real estate developer into the White House.


By CRAIG UNGER
The New Republic, July , 2017

Excerpt...

Trump made his first trip to Russia in 1987, only a few years before the collapse of the Soviet Union. Invited by Soviet Ambassador Yuri Dubinin, Trump was flown to Moscow and Leningrad—all expenses paid—to talk business with high-ups in the Soviet command. In The Art of the Deal, Trump recounted the lunch meeting with Dubinin that led to the trip. “One thing led to another,” he wrote, “and now I’m talking about building a large luxury hotel, across the street from the Kremlin, in partnership with the Soviet government.”

Over the years, Trump and his sons would try and fail five times to build a new Trump Tower in Moscow. But for Trump, what mattered most were the lucrative connections he had begun to make with the Kremlin—and with the wealthy Russians who would buy so many of his properties in the years to come. “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross section of a lot of our assets,” Donald Trump Jr. boasted at a real estate conference in 2008. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

The money, illicit and otherwise, began to rain in earnest after the Soviet Union fell in 1991. President Boris Yeltsin’s shift to a market economy was so abrupt that cash-rich gangsters and corrupt government officials were able to privatize and loot state-held assets in oil, coal, minerals, and banking. Yeltsin himself, in fact, would later describe Russia as “the biggest mafia state in the world.” After Vladimir Putin succeeded Yeltsin as president, Russian intelligence effectively joined forces with the country’s mobsters and oligarchs, allowing them to operate freely as long as they strengthen Putin’s power and serve his personal financial interests. According to James Henry, a former chief economist at McKinsey & Company who consulted on the Panama Papers, some $1.3 trillion in illicit capital has poured out of Russia since the 1990s.

At the top of the sprawling criminal enterprise was Semion Mogilevich. Beginning in the early 1980s, according to the FBI, the short, squat Ukrainian was the key money-laundering contact for the Solntsevskaya Bratva, or Brotherhood, one of the richest criminal syndicates in the world. Before long, he was running a multibillion-dollar worldwide racket of his own. Mogilevich wasn’t feared because he was the most violent gangster, but because he was reputedly the smartest. The FBI has credited the “brainy don,” who holds a degree in economics from Lviv University, with a staggering range of crimes. He ran drug trafficking and prostitution rings on an international scale; in one characteristic deal, he bought a bankrupt airline to ship heroin from Southeast Asia into Europe. He used a jewelry business in Moscow and Budapest as a front for art that Russian gangsters stole from museums, churches, and synagogues all over Europe. He has also been accused of selling some $20 million in stolen weapons, including ground-to-air missiles and armored troop carriers, to Iran. “He uses this wealth and power to not only further his criminal enterprises,” the FBI says, “but to influence governments and their economies.”

In Russia, Mogilevich’s influence reportedly reaches all the way to the top. In 2005, Alexander Litvinenko, a Russian intelligence agent who defected to London, recorded an interview with investigators detailing his inside knowledge of the Kremlin’s ties to organized crime. “Mogilevich,” he said in broken English, “have good relationship with Putin since 1994 or 1993.” A year later Litvinenko was dead, apparently poisoned by agents of the Kremlin.

Continues...

https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
66. I listened when it first came out. He was on Gaslit nation
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 12:19 PM
Oct 2019

Podcast a couple months ago, I've been binging their podcast lately. I thought I would try a refresher. There is quite a bit I missed.

brush

(53,787 posts)
3. What a disgusting man. No one scratches their forehead like that. He knew...
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 07:16 PM
Oct 2019

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what he was doing.

brush

(53,787 posts)
49. I hope women voters take note. On a day of accomplishment by two women...
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 11:16 PM
Oct 2019

astronauts, he makes fun of them on the sly to his chauvanistic base—accomplished women, astronauts! He could never come close to them and he's making fun.

IMPEACH THIS MFer NOW!

Grokenstein

(5,725 posts)
76. He pulls that crap all the time and his cult loves the "signalling"
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 02:52 PM
Oct 2019

For example, one clown on another forum loves posting and reposting a GIF of Puppet Sharpie during one of the debates with HRC. He's doing his "I don't see you I don't hear you, la la la" gazing-into-space bit while wagging his index finger with the thumb extended out. You know, the "loser" sign--just not held to his forehead. Somebody once told me the world is gonna roll me, not the sharpest tool in the shed...

And then of course there's his regular use of the "OK" gesture that the alt-right has co-opted.

lettucebe

(2,336 posts)
4. I'd be interested to see other times he's done this and whether it is deliberate
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 07:16 PM
Oct 2019

because wow, it was pretty obvious -- unless he has a habit of using his middle finger in this way, in which it was just weird.

Who the H writes his crib notes? Makes me wonder if everyone in his orbit is doing whatever they can to make him look the fool that he is.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
5. He is such an asshole.
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 07:23 PM
Oct 2019

He can't stand women who are smarter and more accomplished than he is. Which is just about every woman.

Aussie105

(5,401 posts)
51. Hey!
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 11:50 PM
Oct 2019

I invented that gesture!

It's called 'being rude with plausible deniability!'

Have copyright on it, will be suing Trump!

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
7. No... That's not what he did.
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 07:25 PM
Oct 2019

Watch the video at the link. He just rubbed his forehead with his middle finger. I've done that 1000 times too.

This isn't worthy of our energy one little bit

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,246 posts)
34. Awww Shucks. He's just an innocent dope. Everything's just a cawinky dink with him: his kkk signs,
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 08:48 PM
Oct 2019

His fuck you signs, the way he assaulted women - all just a misunderstanding.

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
38. Why would you do that?
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 09:06 PM
Oct 2019

First, you are attacking an ally

Second, I only said what I said. And I only believe what I said. Not all the false things that you pretended that I said

Third, it divides us to attack each other like that

Please don't do that

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
89. No you have decided giving the middle finger is a ok
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 03:43 PM
Oct 2019

So you are dividing us by making weird comments about using the middle finger.

Most people living in the US, know that gesture and stopped doing it in high school.

It's a cultural thing. Living in the US makes you easily aware of the meaning of the middle finger.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
55. Agreed. Trump didn't have time to process what the astronaut was saying
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 03:14 AM
Oct 2019

before that motion with his finger.
I hate to sound like I'm defending that meathead, but I don't think he was flipping her off.

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
85. So, Trump is just too dumb to know what the middle finger means?
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 03:37 PM
Oct 2019

If you use your middle finger to scratch your forehead regularly in the US, you should stop it immediately. You are insulting people and they see you as rude, too. Just some advise to keep you from insulting others.

Also, if you ever in your life make it to national tv, don't use your middle finger stuck out like that. It's a cultural thing that most US citizens learn about in high school.

Even if he does it because he's a social idiot like a Russian troll, it a very sad statement on his intellect.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
97. I've seen a lot of people use their middle finger
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 05:10 PM
Oct 2019

in a similar way, including Obama. Trump does more than enough off the wall crap to warrant attention. This is pushing it a bit.

brettdale

(12,382 posts)
11. you know he might of done
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 07:33 PM
Oct 2019

But, its really a video that I wouldnt make any effort to try and make it go viral.

Its not like he just clearly purposely flip the bird to her.

BigmanPigman

(51,609 posts)
28. That is what I wanted to know when I saw her
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 08:36 PM
Oct 2019

blond bobble head. I guess she is earning her $84 million for the year.

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
82. Yeah her boobs have "grown"
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 03:10 PM
Oct 2019

Plastic, cheap people, with all the FAKE enhancements money can buy. Yuck.

ARPad95

(1,671 posts)
18. He did it twice in a row here...
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 08:12 PM
Oct 2019

while he's sitting between Omarosa and Ben Carson:



Mike Pence sitting directly across from him definitely noticed and tRump says, "Are you okay, Mike?"

Asshole!

ARPad95

(1,671 posts)
94. He does it within the first couple of minutes of the video...
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 04:43 PM
Oct 2019

as they're settling in their chairs. I have no doubt in my mind tRump did it deliberately (twice) especially after he realized Mike Pence noticed and asked in a sarcastic tone, "Are you okay, Mike?"

MyOwnPeace

(16,927 posts)
26. Aw, he's just disappointed..........
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 08:26 PM
Oct 2019

because they're so far away he couldn't reach out and grab them by the pu............., er, arm and thank them for their service.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
30. I'll be honest
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 08:39 PM
Oct 2019

and many may disagree with me, but I saw this and I didn't think he was flipping the bird. NO, I'm not defending trump. Not a chance, but I when I saw it I thought at first he was flipping her off, but then I said to myself "no way, that's just how he brushes his hair away". I could be wrong tho…...

sweetloukillbot

(11,029 posts)
52. I think he's trying to be sly about it
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 11:56 PM
Oct 2019

I remember doing that sort of shit in grade school to get away with it.

Shipwack

(2,162 posts)
46. Actually, I'd be willing to bet that Dad told him he was wrong all the time...
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 09:50 PM
Oct 2019

... as well as worthless and good for nothing.

It's why he's such a crap human being.

Then again, there are many people who had crappy abusive parents that didn't turn out to be crap human beings, so maybe I shouldn't be giving him an excuse...

I really don't know...

BumRushDaShow

(129,092 posts)
33. I live-posted that fiasco here-
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 08:41 PM
Oct 2019
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212596480#post19

And what was hilarious is that he was obviously given a paper with remarks to read and he refused to do it, going off-script while Ivanka winced and Pence tried to disappear into the chair. And because of the delay due to the speed of communications to the station, they had started responding to his initial comments as he started back up again, resulting in overtalk for a bit... until finally there was a long enough pause for one of them to start her own prepared remarks afterwhich the other followed, all without a pause that was long enough for him to continue again... So that made him even madder because he had to sit there and listen and couldn't get a word in edgewise. Then he started talking about sending someone to the moon (as if no one had ever been there before).

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
43. In the cosmic scheme of things, this is a non-story.
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 09:26 PM
Oct 2019

To be swept into the cesspool of speculation over the every move of this narcissist plays directly into his hands.

Move on. Nothing to see here.

Focus on the bigger issues, e.g., corruption, abuse of power, obstruction of justice, violation of Geneva Convention Article II--genocide, crimes against humanity, COLLUSION with unfriendly powers, a foreign policy blunder that will affect the nation for decades...

A charge of possibly flipping the bird to astronauts on the phone rises to the top at DU????

For fuck's sake. I'm disgusted that such petty bullshit obfuscates our focus and discussion on matters of grave importance.

Kaleva

(36,309 posts)
44. You shouldn't allow such non-stories to side track you from what's really important.
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 09:43 PM
Oct 2019

I suggest changing the last paragraph in your post to something like this:

"For fuck's sake. I'm disgusted that such petty bullshit obfuscates my focus and discussion on matters of grave importance."

The above would, IMHO, be more honest.

Take care. I'm off to read the posts in the Lounge and Weird News. There may be breaking news about Florida Man.

67. It's a strange rorschach test when I who hate the manbaby with the heat of 1000 suns
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 12:37 PM
Oct 2019

and am a feminist, don't see this as either a conscious or unconscious insult to our wonderful astronaut.

I just see a bored (someone else is talking) and socially maladroit fat man moving strands of his precious, absurd clown weave out of his face in a fittingly stupid way.

pepperbear

(5,648 posts)
45. I honestly don't think he was flipping her off, but his read is laughable
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 09:45 PM
Oct 2019

He stumbles through it, and remember the whole thing about his staff giving him only bullet points and pictures and how he doesn't like to brief.

Yeah, he's a hot mess without the bird.

nahant

(93 posts)
47. Douch bag
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 10:01 PM
Oct 2019

Once again the orange pig shows his manners and just who and what he is.
He needs to be removed and really soon before he nukes some city some where that their government dared to piss him off.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,107 posts)
48. What a disgusting MFer. There are only a few humans that I HATE
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 10:08 PM
Oct 2019

more than this man, and it's ONLY because I am not aware of ALL his crimes.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
56. Last night I searched the web for photos of people scratching their foreheads.
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 11:12 AM
Oct 2019

moving hair, etc and I could not find this middle finger shit. Of course it was deliberate. How dare you contradict the chosen one.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
84. +1000000000000 I can't believe the # of posters that said he wasn't doing that when it was
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 03:31 PM
Oct 2019

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right after the astronaut corrected him.

Trump was flipping the bird. The man has the class of rat's asshole.

"Hey why did you have a woman break the record?"

And why the hell is Ivanka there?

Stargazer09

(2,132 posts)
54. It was deliberate
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 03:02 AM
Oct 2019

Twitter thread by a body language expert:





Dr. Jack Brown
@DrGJackBrown
THREAD: Body Language Analysis No. 4400: Trump speaks with First All-Female Astronaut Spacewalk —
— #Nonverbal #EmotionalIntelligence #BodyLanguage #BodyLanguageExpert #Nonverbal #TrumpFlipsOffAstronaut #firstallfemalespacewalk #DonaldTrump #MiddleFinger

Stargazer09

(2,132 posts)
78. I can't tell you
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 02:58 PM
Oct 2019

How much I miss having a president who didn’t get offended so easily.

He’s so disgusting.

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
62. No opportunity to demonstrate how low he is goes unused.
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 11:39 AM
Oct 2019


Drumpf demonstrated how little he knows about the history of space exploration, the emerging role of women in NASA, and why the future is so frighteningly disgusting with a militarized space force led by an Unstable Moron.

ClusterFreak

(3,112 posts)
68. All I can say is of course he did that.
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 12:50 PM
Oct 2019

Someone - let alone a woman - deigned to correct him. So of course he did that.

PatrickforO

(14,576 posts)
73. Feeling some heat? LOL.
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 02:26 PM
Oct 2019

I think Trump is jumping around in a really big frying pan, higher and higher, until finally he jumps right out...into the fire!

BumRushDaShow

(129,092 posts)
81. I think she wrote his remarks
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 03:05 PM
Oct 2019

and as usual, he went completely off-script, leading to the eventual fact-check.

If you watch the video, you can see her wincing during some of it.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
91. Yep
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 04:19 PM
Oct 2019

He expected her to remain silent and also his bullshit to as as fact.
He's a really small man in every sense of the word

albacore

(2,399 posts)
92. What difference does it make if it's true or not?
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 04:33 PM
Oct 2019

Remember the giant tsunami of lies, "scandals", insults, sexist, and racist shit thrown at Obama... and Clinton?
The gesture is at least debatable, whereas "Pizzagate" and "Birtherism" were made up from whole cloth.
I've made up several vile rumors about trump... only to find later that there is evidence that those rumors might be true. Raping children is an example. I thought trump was more of a "Power Fucker"... having sex with women he could get because of his wealth and position. Come to find out, he probably DID have sex with underage girls.
Why give trump the benefit of the doubt... on anything?

Aussie105

(5,401 posts)
93. Contrast
Sun Oct 20, 2019, 04:43 PM
Oct 2019

Trump's poor use of language and questionable body language with those of past presidents.

The careful choice of words, the concentration on grammar structure and intonation, the careful control of body signals . . . I so miss those signs of intelligence shown by past presidents.

Like Obama.

Miss him.

Hope he is staying sane in this pathetic psychodrama playing out on the world stage.

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