The discussion about this girl has gotten completely out of hand at the CNN website. Moderators have completely dropped the ball and scumbags are calling this girl every name in the book. I've sent an email requesting they disable the comments section for that story to no avail. Those of you still awake, who might care and who can use their Twitter account, please help. The girl is being raked over the coals and CNN.com doesn't give two shits, it would seem. Racism abounds, and man I'm not kidding.

Had she not done that, it wouldn't have even been an ICE matter.

That's NOT to say that ICE didn't screw up royally. They did. They should have checked the fingerprints before deporting her. I imagine that harsh disciplinary action is in order over there too. But to say her attempt to assume a different identity is not a 'salient fact' is patently false. How responsible a 14 year old is for such behavior is a different matter. But her behavior is still a critical component of the story.

Appearently this little "Running with the Gang-Bangers" gal has fooled quite a few people here at DU

If she didn't want to get Deported under her Forged Identity - then why didn't she speak up when she was doing some one else's time. - she was sent to jail first and then released to ICE

I'm sure she was appointed a "Public Defender" and she had numerous oppertunities in the Jail and in ICE detention to request a public defender how could have simply run a search of her TRUE indentity

Nope - she PUNKED everyone and is still laughing today

false name and that's how it all started.

Which is how it should have ended. Fast.

what more do we do? (Just asking.)

How could fingerprints "tell nothing"???

someone should have caught that and stopped everything until they got a straight answer as to who she was or some explanation.

was. what more was there to do? And I am not defending them. she lied to the judge that she was this person.

That doesn't absolve the feds from their custodial responsibilities to minors in their frickin care.

No I didn't. They ultimately bear responsibility for what happened. They're the 'adults in the room' here. Literally. But her actions are still part of the story.

This is outrageous plain and simple....

So you think that a 14 year old girl is so incredibly brilliant that she outsmarted all authorities who were involved in this sorry episode? What does that say about these agencies? She has NO liability in this happening to her. And BTW, she has been raped, statutorily anyway, because she is 15 years old and now pregnant. I say shit should hit the fan big time on this, and stop throwing mud at a teenager who, OMG, LIED. They weren't bright enough to untangle her lie? Not instilling confidence here.

I don't disagree that ICE bears the responsibility here. All I'm saying is that what she did matters to the story. I don't know what her circumstances were, but apparently she really didn't want to go back home, which implies something is very wrong there. I'm not saying she isn't a victim here. All I'm saying is that her actions are part of what happened. Isn't that obvious?

On the big thread on this, I pointed out that it's not unusual for large bureaucratic organizations to screw things up. It happens quite often, in fact. That's no excuse, but it's worth bearing in mind.

is sorely over-matched.

I think a federal agency had a huge responsibility to do its job well and accurately. To try to tie any of this with her actions has a hint of blaming the victim.

Fourteen versus many educated and experienced adults. They should have known better.

I disagree with you.

Her lie has ZERO to do with how she ended up in Columbia. Not obvious to me. What is obvious is the inability for someone like you to understand this child told a lie to federal authorities and they weren't bright enough to figure it out and send her to children's services or contact her family before railroading her to Columbia. You clearly have never had teenage girls who lie. If a mom can determine that teenagers are lying about something, then why in the hell couldn't these officials at immigration figure it out? Again, her lie has NO part in this. She is a kid. She had nothing to back her lie. They had no proof she was the person who's name she was pretending to be, that the name was hers and it seems they made no attempt to find out who she actually was before shipping her to Columbia. Any doctor could have told them she was a teenager and any skilled interrogator could have gotten the truth out of her. And why in the hell did Columbia take her, with no documentation proving she was an adult citizen who had been deported back there? Stuff went wrong down there too but our system is the real problem. And who cares what she wanted? Kids do stupid shit like this. They get a story in their heads and they stick to it. No way. You don't get away with saying her lie is the catalyst here. Something else is going on and it has fuck all to do with a child lying.

Do you really want to teach her that she has NO responsibility? What lesson would she learn from that?

Don't hand the right wingers ammunition, that we do not believe anyone has any responsibility for their actions at all, ever, and than consequences are all to be blamed on others.

How unusual is it for ICE to find someone lying about being someone deportable? It's usually the other way round.

might have been lesson enough, don't you think?

Or should we put her in stocks in the public square and stone her for lying? Too much?

Yeah, so is being deported to a place where you know no one and you cannot speak the language.

I said being deported might have been enough of a lesson.

How far does your need for revenge go?

I said what would she take from the idea that she is completely not responsible for anything she says or does, and that others were under a duty to discover her lies - at 14?

Age of reason my ass. Are you the same person now that you were at 13-14? You would behave exactly the same way now as you did when you were a young teen? This is specious argument. All they had to do was hang onto her for awhile, have her examined by a doctor and they would have found out she was just a kid. What lesson do I want her to learn? I have no idea, but it seems she's learned she can lie to federal authorities and they will send her anywhere she says she's from. I'll say this again-SHE IS A CHILD. Did you hear that? And now she is a pregnant child; a crime has been commited against her thanks to these inept immigration morons, geniuses that they are. And some of you think she bears at least some responsibility. No, she doesn't. Anyone who thinks this is as stupid as those who shipped a 14 year old American kid to Columbia so she could end up raped and pregnant.

Being a child seems to be a defense to anything and everything. So if she were 18, it would suddenly matter? But not the day before?

Not all government employees are evil. Maybe they really weren't expecting someone to claim to be an illegal alien when they weren't.

Being 13 or 14 is a defense. Being a child trying to pull a fast one is a defense. What's theirs? No, not all government employee's are evil, it seems many of them are just plain thick as a two by four, as in allowing a little girl's lie to get her deported to a place she thought might be more fun than here. And I'm sure some kid somewhere has tried this before and failed. Hey, I'm Osama bin Laden's son, send me away from here! Come on, don't be one of those blame the victim people. Again I ask, what is their defense for putting this child on a plane to Columbia without proof positive she was an adult woman from Columbia here illegally? And someone please tell me what the hell happened to the spell check and the other things, like the smilies, on this new and improved DU? This is driving me apeshit.

It may not be on adult level, but there is still a possibility of criminal prosecution. Just being 13 is not a complete defense.

Like I say, no one is perfect, and this is not something ICE agents would expect (people claiming to be illegal when they are not) - they should have made sure of her identity first, and they have made a mistake, but don't tell me 14 years can do anything they want and that it's someone else's fault.

She didn't tell her mom she was going to the library to study and she really went out with a bunch of her friends to party. She has no responsibility in this. None, nada, nyet. She is a kid. They are a big government agency supposedly run by adults. She looks like a kid. So what she told them what they wanted to hear. It's their responsibility to make sure anyone who tells them a story has told them the truth. A 14 year old girl isn't necessarily compos mentis and that's a fact. Especially one who thinks it would be a kick to get deported from her home country of the US to Columbia of all places. She's in a bad spot now, she's been seriously taken advantage of and has become pregnant due to abuse. The fault of this lies squarely with immigration, both here and in Columbia. It is someone else's fault and that's all there is to it. Why are you blaming this victim? The child lied, and again, so what? This is a mess begun with a lie by a child, and I hate to break it to you but teenage girls lie sometimes. I've raised 2 so far and will raise another when my youngest gets that age, so I ought to know. It was the supposedly adult professional's job to make sure no harm came to a child and they failed most miserably. Stop blaming the victim.

An adult has sex with a 14 year old who lied about her age. The onus of both responsibility and consequence lies with the adult, regardless of whether the adult "wasn't expecting someone to claim to be of legal age when they weren't. ..", and even though not all adult are evil.

So if she were 18 would it matter, but not the day before...?

Drive, buy cigarettes, sign up for Netflix, get a library card without a parent in many areas, get married (except in maybe two states, and only then with a parental okay), buy a beer, vote, see an R-rated movie, drop out of school, join the military, go to Canada alone, buy an adult magazine, adopt a pet, work, etc.

She was being raped by a 30-year-old man, and no, it wasn't a consensual relationship, BECAUSE SHE WAS ONLY FOURTEEN.

I don't think you even know what the "Age of Reason" is. I do. It's when the Catholic Church says a child can start participating in the Sacraments, especially Communion and Confession, and when a child has certain moral obligations. This age is usually between seven and eight.

I had no idea Canon Law had superseded US law. Link to this happening?

The law still applies to minors.

And what does her being raped by a 30 year old have to do with her telling ICE agents she is some illegal alien? How were they supposed to know all of this?

They were hoodwinked by a child and you think it's her fault she has been victimized? Yes, the law applies to minors, so it was against the law for ICE to deport a child who wasn't even illegal. That's the law that was broken. They are supposed to know all this because that is their goddammed job. I'm getting seriously pissed off with you people. Victim blaming all over the place on this. Getting quite sick of it. And her rape is the fault of the people who sent her there solely on her word she was an adult named whatever from Columbia. How many times do I have to say this, SHE IS A CHILD! She isn't supposed to be the one who gets things sorted out, they are. They fucked up big time.

"And what does her being raped by a 30 year old have to do with her telling ICE agents she is some illegal alien?"

I hope you really don't mean that, because if you do, wow.

They are supposed to know by something called "fingerprints," and by common sense.

Had they been smart they would have gotten to the bottom of her story. She isn't responsible, she's a minor, now pregnant at 15. What is WRONG with you people? Why are you so hung up on the lie of child that you can't see how utterly stupid the people running immigration are? Fucksake, so what she lied? They should have been able to figure it out without sending her to Columbia on her unsubstantiated lie. It's truly pathetic and now we know how incredibily inept our system is. Concrete proof they don't know their ass from their elbow.

I 100% agree.

if a federal agency can be hoodwinked by a 14yo...there is something very wrong with that agency.

everyone keeps casting about wondering how ICE could be so careless.

simple, with things they don't think matter very much, it's easy to be careless.

you're so upset at EVEN THE SUGGESTION.

and none of your posts in this thread show THE LEAST AMOUNT OF UPSET OR CONCERN for a child that was sent to Colombia.

your bias is quite clear on this one.

I think your accusations of racial bias against ICE are probably wrong. But that doesn't really bother me much. I don't really give a shit about ICE's reputation. What does piss me off is that downthread you CALLED OUT OTHER DUERS and claimed WE care less about black kids than white kids.

Got it now?

It was the facts of the case and the DUers reactions you are reading about that made you think racism was somehow involved.

My post did not say anybody was racist, but when i laid out the facts, you seemed to see racism within them.

How interesting that must have been.

'If it had been a white, blond child, would the same people be defending the actions of ICE as vigorously?' (I added the cap and question mark)

I took 'same people' to mean people on this thread. Are you insinuating that I would be saying something different if the child were white?

I do honestly wonder that.

And that's a completely reasonable question to ask.

I can only speak for myself of course. But the answer is:

'Fuck no'

BTW, if you read my posts, you'll see that I'm not defending ICE in the first place. They messed up here.

versus what actually happened to that girl, which is an ongoing wrong.

You did know that, right?

What am I supposed to say?

'Well, I wish I could be mad that you called out people on this thread, but given what happened to this girl, I don't think it's appropriate'

Bullshit. As is the idea that you can use her plight to excuse your own statements about people on this forum, because you deign that I'm more upset about one than the other.

and you are not supposed to misrepresent what I actually wrote.

As relates to this story, there's plenty over at CNN discussion board. Those people are vicious. They don't even seem to grasp the basic fact that an American kid gave a false name and that name just happened to be one of an adult Columbian here illegally. They seem to think we should leave her there, her family are bunch of trash, she's trash and on and on. It's disgusting. I did what I could but I was seriously outnumbered. It was infuriating to say the least.

Even a scuzzy one. A white girl with an American accent and blonde hair, saying her name was Maria Doe would NOT have been deported.

I also bet not as much vitriol would be leveled against this girl by posters here if she wasn't a "gangbanger" with a 30-year-old "boyfriend" who lied.

that will be given the job of enforcing SOPA - Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Feeling lucky?

Exactly right.

fingerprint database, what do you propose to eliminate the possibility of this type of occurrence from happening in the future?

Maybe they could have cut off a leg and counted the growth rings.

She lied and passed herself off as a 22 year old citizen of another country.

Fix that.

Do we know that?

I don't know that. I'm just asking.

so I would guess yes, they probably had them.

who she said she was.

that person, they had records on.

they didn't bother.

What a STUPID position

You don't wish to acknowledge she was obviously interogated by Law Enforcement, Probation Authorities, Jail Personel, DHS, and ICE authorities

And FOOLED them all by LIEING about her Identity

If you wish to slam ICE or DHS I suggest you find winning position

Beg your pardon.

Experienced and educated adults couldn't handle a 14 year old and you don't think there's something wrong with that?

I think it stinks to high heaven and a whole lot of 'adults' need to be held accountable if they can't handle what parents around the US handle every day.

you might want to talk to her mother about that

I'll admit she is accomplished but again she's not done playing people

Did you get your crystal ball from the same feds who couldn't tell a 14 year old was lying? Please let me know. Mine's broken and I have to actually meet people to read them; though sometimes reading their words works, too. It would be so much easier to have a crystal ball to read them from afar.

Some people will tell any lie to get out of trouble

Some people will fall for it every time

Nope I got nothing. I don't know how to address that kind of prejudice and stay within any sort of bounds of civility.

Just because I have very different perspectives derived from my experiences which allow me to see a situation with clarity, it doesn't qualify as "Prejudice"

Do have proof she was denied access to a "Public Defender, Due Process, Deportation Hearing" ALL of which she could have requested to have her TRUE identity investigated by the judge/court

and you expect her to know all of that? clearly you are trapped in the "just world" fallacy, if you believe a 14yo has perfect knowledge of her rights in the justus system.

The fact that people have actually called a 30 year old man her boyfriend is mind boggling.

You belong on FR, not DU.

A 14 year old who lies about her age and engages in sex with a 52 years old man she fools is also 100% responsible, and he is indeed, absolved of all ethical guilt in your opinion?

If not, what are the precise and relevant differences?

"seeks to Profit by several Lawsuits..."

That is the only precise and relevant difference? I ask as it seems both rather irrelevant and imprecise to the question at hand...

Phone calls are being made as we speak

Didn't exactly help matters. If she hadn't, we don't know what they would have done. Possibly the same thing. But possibly not. They surely would not have deported her or even thought of it.

they bought the lies of a teenager who didn't match the description of her made-up name NOR that persons fingerprints.

I always thought it was the duty of the police/enforcement authorities to find out the truth?

But it's understandable error. Nobody's perfect, and who fakes being an illegal alien? It's not something they'd be looking for.

She gave the police a false name -- hardly an uncommon occurrence.

By someone, to keep the Colombian woman safe?

story is how society has failed this young lady.

Pregnant and with a drug runner at 14.

Seems those are the kinds of things a parent should teach their child not to do.

Doesn't always work, of course. But you got to wonder what was going on at home. Perhaps that will come out later.

It makes me wonder whom she had contact with before getting in this situation.

That the mother did not provide a stable home life for her daughter and that was a factor in her running away and taking somebody else's identity in order to not be sent back.

Could be wrong, of course, but I'd bet on it.

Why?

To me that says that there was something wrong with her home life. I have no more information than you do. It's just a hunch. It's also possible that her home life was just fine and she wanted to run away for good anyway. But I think the first scenario is a bit more plausible.

Kids do run away for no reason, but I think in many of those cases they decide pretty quickly it's time to come back. It doesn't sound like she did.

close relatives (one was her grandfather, I forget who the other was.) Is that a good enough reason for you?

I've known two people who ran away as young teens and stayed away for over a year. One was a girl who was "dating" a 20 year old and her parents had told her it had to stop. The other, similar tale without the age difference. Both told me that there were many times that they SHOULD have called parents rather than stay in the mess they were in but they were too immature to admit it at the time. One of them made no contact until age 18, the other stayed out of contact for ten years.

Kids can and do run away and stay away even when the reason seems trivial to an adult.

1) What sort of resemblance does she have to the older Colombian woman?
2) How in the world was she able to assume the identity of the Colombian woman?
3) Was she carrying forged documents that identified her as the Colombian woman?

Perfectly understandable mistake.

Was the 14-year-old actually carrying forged documents identifying her as the Colombian woman? If she had a Colombian passport identifying her as a Colombian citizen who was subject to deportation, did she insist she was that Colombian even given the threat of deportation to a country she apparently had no connections with? Why didn't she just say that she was an American? It seems to me that there is more to this story.

The facts on that part are rather murky, but what I've read is that she didn't have ANY kind of papers or documents backing up her lie that she was an adult Columbian woman named Tila Tequila, or whatever name she used. I just cannot get over how stupid these people are. Don't any of them have kids? She does not look over 18 to me. She looks like what she is, a girl somewhere between 13 and 16. I find it hard to believe that a kid hasn't tried to pull the same stunt before because they wanted an adventure, or whatever. You'd think the parents in this agency would have had a gut reaction just by looking at her and talking to her. And the fact she spoke no Spanish was a huge red flag. I wait to see how they dig themselves out of this mess. I'm sure they will take the same tact I've seen on this very thread, in that she lied about who she was and allowed them to deport her. Yeah, that will go over really well with everyone. Outsmarted by a little girl.

for people who appear to be European. It would not surprise me is that she was not necessarily threatened with deportation with colombia and being 14, she may not have rally understood what it meant to be deported.

The facts are that the ICE should have checked her fingerprints. PERIOD.

DHS fucked up, DHS is fucked up, the "Homeland" is fucked up.

The U.S.A. owes this teen everything she needs to get her life together.

That is, of course, what we owe EVERY child if we want to back away from the abyss of fascism and economic collapse.

But the lure of banana republicanism is strong for the 1%...

such are the values that lead some people to defend the lack of even minimal verification of her identity, that lack of checking leading to this child, this American child who is black, being sent off to a country she had never been to, did not speak the language and for the crimes of another person.

i wonder if this had been a white, blond child (well, frankly, it would not have happened, but i digress...), if it had been a white, blond child, would the same people be defending the actions of ICE as vigorously.

i do wonder.

When you're brown or black, certain things are just assumed.

People learn different languages, so even if she spoke some Spanish so what. But being an illegal who's first language is understood to be Spanish, wouldn't they have presented her with some documents in Spanish, had her read something in Spanish, to make certain this person understood everything? I always thought that's what happened here when authorities are dealing with a person who speaks English as a second language. It sounds like they didn't even notice she couldn't read or write what was supposedly her first language. So many questions. I hope the family sues them to hell and back because that is the only way all the questions will be answered in this incident.

First off, it could very well have still happened if the child were white and blonde. What if the identity they assumed was of a Swedish person? Even if it were a Colombian it still could have happened. There are blue-eyed blonde Colombians, as well as black Colombians.

Second, I don't think anybody on this thread is defending ICE for screwing up. I know I'm not. All I said was that the child's actions are part of the story here. The ultimate responsibility lies with ICE, but it's bizarre to act as if the child did not contribute to the situation by assuming another identity and sticking to that story.

Third, I find your accusation that I or anybody else on this thread would have a different opinion if the child were white incredibly insulting. Too bad you didn't call out anybody by name or I would have alerted on it.

more upset at those few words than you seem to be over the fact that an American child was sent off, wrongly to Colombia.

more upset at my honest question, than you are that ICE did so little checking that they deported an American child (who happens to be black).

always interesting to see what upsets people and what does not.

but do go on and show how angry you are about my few words --it's a nice contrast to the total lack of concern for what happened to her.

Than they do about non-white kids. You can take it to ICE all you want. God knows they need a spanking for this.

What angers me is that you insinuated that people commenting on this thread wouldn't be saying the same thing if the child were white. That's a baseless and very insulting accusation.

I don't remember people accusing Elizabeth Smart of just being off on an adventure.

...there's no reason why anyone would bring this thought up /sarcasm

she couldn't have committed a crime and is never responsible for her actions under any circumstances.

I wish I was 14. I'd love to live in a society that thought like that.

Because since I'd never commit a crime that means I can go and kill people, steal cars, and deal illicit drugs and the people would blame it all on the adults just because I'm 14 and can't be held responsible for my actions because I don't have the mental capacities to understand that I did something wrong. It must be the adult's fault so they must be punished and held responsible.

I love it.

I'd be rolling in the money. Nobody can touch me.

As you well know.

Why? Because she's 14. She doesn't have the mental capacity to understand her actions so therefore she can't have committed any crime, so it must be the adult's fault in the matter. So goes the claim.

So she has absolutely no responsibility for her actions and must not be held accountable.

According to the original post.

Nice to know.

You may have inferred that for some reason, but Stinky didn't say that, nor myself, nor anyone else.

could've easily avoided this entire situation and stop ignoring the fact that she lied. if she hadn't have lied she would've not been deported.

The responsibility is hers, not the agents.

Should they be given a reprimand, sure, I can see that. They did make a mistake.

But there is an awful lot of over reaction and calling for them to be dowsed in gasoline and burned alive, well, that's really over the top. Yes, it's an exaggeration, but not much of one, because there is a lot of over reaction towards those agents in this thread.

But I'm not calling for the girl's incarceration either. She should be given a few hundred hours of community service and the entire family should be given some counseling.

And I'd bet you that really, this entire thing is just an over emotional over reaction on her part.

usually, for a 14yo, that means going to a juvenile facility in the united states, not being deported to a colombian jail.

are these items from two different articles:

From the grandmother, who kept trying to find her:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/officials-investigate-case-deported-texas-teen-15300874?page=2#.TwaUL0aTNak

"I didn't want to scare her or get her in trouble with those who had her," Lorene Turner said, adding that she feared the girl might have been caught up in human trafficking.

From the family's lawyer:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/05/us/texas-colombia-teen/index.html?eref=rss_us
Jackson says he believes something more sinister is going on.
"There has to be something behind this 15-year-old girl ending up in Colombia, besides the fact that ICE dropped the ball," he said. "Of all the nicknames ... to pick one that's of Latino descent, for that to be a name that sticks and gets you deported, that doesn't make sense."

And later in the same CNN article:
The ministry said it was investigating what sort of verification its consulate in Texas requested before giving the girl an expedited provisional passport as part of deportation proceedings, and how Jakadrien received work authorization for training at a call center as part of the government's "Welcome Home" program.
Attorneys with the program made a sworn declaration in front of a notary with "inexact information" that allowed her to receive work papers, the foreign ministry said.
"Those lawyers are no longer providing services to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs," the statement said.


At best this was extreme incompetence and negligence.
At worst, well it may be even worse.

Was she told to give a specific name if caught? So that SHE might be deported instead of the Colombian national, who would now be safe here?

Her grandmother was legitimately trying to find her, too.

after she ran away as best I can piece from articles:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/05/us/texas-colombia-teen/index.html
Grandmother Lorene Turner said she then started following Jakadrien's best friend on Facebook. She eventually tracked her granddaughter to Houston, where she worked at a club under the name Tika Cortez. Johnisa Turner said she saw Jakadrien's face on the marquee on her birthday.

So, she could have been told to use the name if caught or just been already using it and stuck to it. Either way, it seems to be a specific name someone likely told/suggested/convinced her to use. And good point about the Colombian national.


It seems to be that ICE with all the tools at their disposal (and at least up here in WA) an ever expanding budget and expanding area of work (without attendant regulatory responsibility) has as a central part of their traditional work the responsibility to determine identity. She's far from the first person to give ICE an assumed name. And it does raise the question of whether this has happened to others who don't have a grandmother who did not give up, kept looking and kept both asking for help from different agencies and contacting them with info she found through her persistent search.

her identity should have been verified. My big concern with this (that ICE/DHS defenders seem to be ignoring) is:

Pretend I was born in the USA but my name is Maria Gomez. I'm hispanic but grew up in Wisconsin, I speak some spanish but English is my first language. I decide to travel to Texas and as I'm driving (speeding a little bit maybe), I get pulled over and realize I left my purse in the hotel--oops. In whatever database the police use, there is a Maria Gomez from Suarez, Mexico that is due to be deported. The police take me in, I tell them I'm Maria Gomez from Wisconsin but they don't believe me and bam, without verifying my identification, I get deported.

With the inaction of ICE/DHS for this now 15 yr old girl, the above scenario is completely plausible. If they don't verify identities, how do we know if they deport the correct people and not American citizens. Not every American carries their papers with them at all times, not every American is honest and sometimes give false names for whatever reason so because they gave a false name (or in my made-up scenario a real name), they deserve to be deported? The burden of making sure the right person is or isn't geting deported falls on the deportee now? What's the point of putting law enforcement in charge of Immigration then? If they aren't going to use their investigative skills to make sure they have the correct people, then I know lots of people without jobs in this country that could take their place.

food, water and shelter without knowing the language...Although I'm guessing the references in the story to "partying with men in clubs" is a journalistic euphemism for the sex trade...

AND what happened to the real woman the authorities were after...

As an aside, doesn't the Colombian government have to take a share of the blame here, too?? If I had to break up the 'blame' pie, it would go:

Parental failures: 25%
Girl's dishonesty:20%
ICE: 35%
Colombian gov't: 20%

Serious question. I live in NYC, and there are a lots of europeans here illegally, I don't hear stories about them being deported. Ever. They live here years and years.

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