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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 10:19 PM Oct 2019

I have no real idea how to say this in a way that will adequately express how I feel.

I find myself inventing ways fo frame current events so that I don't have to face and deal with what I believe to be true: at best, we have a 50-50 chance of saving our democracy. Like a "perfect storm", unlikely events have meshed with improbable consequences to elevate corrupt incompetents to positions which may allow them to lead us into national suicide.

We have survived assaults by some of the most vicious and unprincipled psychopaths the world has ever produced---and now one occupies our White House. I would be lying if I said there are not times when I am scared out of my wits that I may live to see Rush Limbaugh's wet dream of "good Americans hunting down liberals with dogs" come to pass. But, those times are few and fleeting and are usually replaced by a renewed determination to defeat these moral cripples or go down fighting. However this existential crisis ends, I am determined not to be a bystander; a mere observer.

Now is the time for each of us to get off our butts and do whatever we can---not just what is easy or convenient or "acceptable"---WHATEVER WE CAN to get rid of Trump and every sick sonofabitch that has aided and abetted the criminal enterprise that comprises the Trump regime. Now is the time for stepping outside our usual comfort zone and doing and saying things that we KNOW are going to piss off some of the Powers That Be as well as some our family and "friends" because these things need to be said and done if our democracy is to have a chance of surviving.

I will not tell you what to do; I will implore you to do all that you can.

I am not wiser than you. I am not braver than you. I am an often confused and frightened man who is asking that we grit our teeth, join hands and face down these fascist clowns together.

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I have no real idea how to say this in a way that will adequately express how I feel. (Original Post) Atticus Oct 2019 OP
Lives, fortune and sacred honor. WheelWalker Oct 2019 #1
Amen. nt Atticus Oct 2019 #3
we seem to be in the same mood tonight NRaleighLiberal Oct 2019 #2
Your thread was the last thread I read. dewsgirl Oct 2019 #5
We're going to lose some battles but we'll ultimately win the war. UniteFightBack Oct 2019 #4
That is the belief that I am committed to. wnylib Oct 2019 #11
phone calls, letters, handmade34 Oct 2019 #6
Strike? G_j Oct 2019 #7
Refuse fascism protests. We need to wnylib Oct 2019 #12
I agree with your suggested actions... OldBaldy1701E Oct 2019 #8
Excellent question Normanart Oct 2019 #9
Nailed it Boomer Oct 2019 #10
Take down the RW media. We can't take them wnylib Oct 2019 #13
Fox bdamomma Oct 2019 #14
This reminds me H2O Man Oct 2019 #15
+10000 Pachamama Oct 2019 #16

wnylib

(21,485 posts)
11. That is the belief that I am committed to.
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 07:44 PM
Oct 2019

I hope everyone here has the same commitment. It is when things are gloomiest that our counter perspective, commitment, and determination are most needed and most valuable.

G_j

(40,367 posts)
7. Strike?
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 12:38 AM
Oct 2019

The “kids” are doing it over climate change.
Maybe adults need to consider similar possibilities.

wnylib

(21,485 posts)
12. Refuse fascism protests. We need to
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 07:51 PM
Oct 2019

have one huge one in DC with simultaneous ones around the country on the same day. Keep it peaceful but take Puerto Rico and Hong Cong as inspiration. Be an inspiration for European countries facing an upsurge of fascism. International democracy united.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,130 posts)
8. I agree with your suggested actions...
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 11:24 AM
Oct 2019

But I must point out that Trump is a figurehead and a product of the problem, not the cause of it. The existing capitalistic oligarchy is the problem. They have twisted the rule of law, they have manipulated our very societal model so that only the top percentile in our socio-economic ladder have any say in anything. However, there is one thing we MUST do to start this healing/correction/revolution/whatever it is going to take to repair the damage to our nation as a whole... first and foremost, we have to admit we let this happen. There is no magic figure to blame, there is no evil genius laughing behind the scenes when it comes to our laws and our society being corrupted by those who want power and will do anything to get it. We had and have the ability to be aware of what is going on... did we use it? There were safeguards in place for this stuff... what happened to them? Most could only be removed by vote or by legislation... how did that come to pass? Our political and legal structure is too corrupted for any use in correcting this problem now, so what do we do? Because, we the people are supposed to be running the show, and when the average turnout in most elections is in the low 30th percentile, you can see how the powers that be have pretty much won that arena. Decadence and corruption... two things that have become so common that we measure it in degrees now instead of blanket condemnation. Trump is the figurehead... we have to stop the entire assault by the '1%' (for lack of a better reference term) on every aspect of our lives to correct what you are talking about. Can we?

Normanart

(279 posts)
9. Excellent question
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:59 PM
Oct 2019

Can we do what is necessary to fix our broken system? When an election puts criminals and con artists in positions of power, our system becomes more and more corrupt. What we have now is the result of decades of corrupt legislation and below the radar policy changes. Only by overcoming the barriers to fair elections and putting decent and honorable people in office can we survive as a functioning democracy. Good luck to us!

Boomer

(4,168 posts)
10. Nailed it
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:16 AM
Oct 2019

Trump is not the problem, he's just the symptom. Even twenty years ago he would not have been elected or allowed to stay in office.

The root problem is in the people of this country. The impact of social media, the toxicity of Fox News, the loss of the WWII generation, eroding middle-class, corporate greed, lacks of civics education, the list just goes on and on. Death by a thousand cuts.

wnylib

(21,485 posts)
13. Take down the RW media. We can't take them
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 08:01 PM
Oct 2019

off the air but we can ridicule them into insignificance. Stop referring to Fox as Fox News. Call them Fox TV or Fox Entertainment. A few satire songs with catchy tunes to make a point and become popular would be fun. A counterculture opposition to RW media and Trumpists.

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