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This Barr Russia investigation bullshit..They are going after Obama. (Original Post) edhopper Oct 2019 OP
Hillary too? triron Oct 2019 #1
When I heard this a Rachel tonight, I was very disconcerted, alarmed vlyons Oct 2019 #2
Please educate us on Nazi history. What you say has me feeling queasy. triron Oct 2019 #5
Krystalnacht means night of broken glass vlyons Oct 2019 #9
Yes the burning of the Reichstag I knew about but not the 'broken glass' story. triron Oct 2019 #15
I think so vlyons Oct 2019 #16
Obama won't be touched, the investigation headline is what they want most. nt greyl Oct 2019 #3
Trump just needs another "Lock Her Up!" line at his campaign rallies for 2020 sop Oct 2019 #32
Lay off the cable news. tman Oct 2019 #4
:) Right on and to the point. Hortensis Oct 2019 #37
LOL. Good luck getting a unanimous verdict in ANY jurisdiction against Obama based on this RockRaven Oct 2019 #6
Good luck even getting a grand jury to fall for this StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #20
It will backfire badly on them. GoCubsGo Oct 2019 #7
they want to blame impeachment on the cia. mopinko Oct 2019 #8
Is it wise to attack the CIA? herding cats Oct 2019 #10
welp, i've never rooted for the cia, but.... mopinko Oct 2019 #11
We seem to feel the same way here. herding cats Oct 2019 #12
up is down, down is up. mopinko Oct 2019 #14
Well, Schumer said Intelligence had six ways to Sunday... VarryOn Oct 2019 #28
As the son of a 25 year veteran of "The Company", I can say unequivocally.... A HERETIC I AM Oct 2019 #38
his petty grievances....this makes sense to the petty mind Demonaut Oct 2019 #13
kicking up edhopper Oct 2019 #17
Trumplodytes already believe Pres Obama is guilty... Wounded Bear Oct 2019 #18
True edhopper Oct 2019 #19
Good luck getting 12 grand jurors in Washington DC to vote to indict President Obama StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #21
I am hoping this whole thing is shut down from embarressment edhopper Oct 2019 #22
Yes StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #24
This whole thing is just kicking up dust so the "both sides do it" crowd Liberal In Texas Oct 2019 #23
This too edhopper Oct 2019 #26
But... but... according to Trump and Barr Solomon Oct 2019 #25
The Trump lawyer said he could edhopper Oct 2019 #27
Good luck with that paleotn Oct 2019 #29
Is it trump, or is this being done for Putin also duforsure Oct 2019 #30
If I thought it was only drumpf, barr, giuliani, and cilla4progress Oct 2019 #34
i dont think they know who they are after..just fishing..barr needed a vaca so this way its paid for samnsara Oct 2019 #31
Been seeing this from the beginning cilla4progress Oct 2019 #33
that's what I said to my wife gopiscrap Oct 2019 #35
Then...shouldn't Obama be part of the investigatory team? So he can confront his accusers? Midnight Writer Oct 2019 #36
I honestly believe Trump wants to impeach Obama budkin Oct 2019 #39

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
2. When I heard this a Rachel tonight, I was very disconcerted, alarmed
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:21 PM
Oct 2019

It's really quite frightening. I thought, Jesus, Putin has really fucked us in the butt quite royally. Is there now any doubt that Trump is a Russian asset? He is doing his very very best to destroy the CIA and the FBI. And that Barr guy! There is no lowest level, no bottom rung on the descent into Hell that the Trump train will go. That's how intense Trump's passion for vengence and hatred is.

I cannot say in words or put in writing the images in my head of the justice that Trump and Barr deserve. But I'm sure I'm not the only one. This is the time now for each of us to stay very very calm. I equate this phony criminal investigation scam that Barr is running as about equal to the Nazis Krystal Nacht, where they blew up the German parliament. I feel that it is that grim.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
9. Krystalnacht means night of broken glass
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 12:53 AM
Oct 2019

It was a night in 1938, when Jewish synagogues, homes, and businesses were vandalizedand torched. Jewish men were murdered and rounded up to be shipped off to prisons and concentration camps. You can find lots of info online, beginning
here https://www.history.com/topics/holocaust/kristallnacht

In 1933, Nazis burned down the Reichstag, which was their parliament building, as a false flag operation to blame the Jews for the fire. See https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-reichstag-fire.

triron

(22,006 posts)
15. Yes the burning of the Reichstag I knew about but not the 'broken glass' story.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:18 PM
Oct 2019

Thanks. To think we are head in a similar direction is horrifying. Is
our population behaving similarly to the German people in the early 1930s.

sop

(10,192 posts)
32. Trump just needs another "Lock Her Up!" line at his campaign rallies for 2020
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:53 AM
Oct 2019

This time his deplorables will chanting “Lock Him Up!” But first Barr has to launches an official DOJ “criminal” investigation of Trump’s political enemies.

And get ready for the endless whataboutisms from Republicans during the impeachment hearings. I can just hear Gym Jordan and Matt Gaetz braying, “What about Obama and Biden, why aren’t we investigating their corruption and treason?”

RockRaven

(14,972 posts)
6. LOL. Good luck getting a unanimous verdict in ANY jurisdiction against Obama based on this
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:30 PM
Oct 2019

clown-show Trump-Barr nonsense. There would literally be hundreds of defense witnesses who would document in stunning detail how the Russia investigation happened, and how nothing Obama said or did was inappropriate but everything Trump and Barr were up to was inappropriate.

On top of which, any DOJ prosecutor who followed orders and proceeded with that obviously bogus case would probably get disbarred eventually -- and they all know it, even the ones who hate Obama. Barr won't be able to find someone to put their name on it.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
7. It will backfire badly on them.
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 11:34 PM
Oct 2019

Trump always makes things worse for Trump. This will be no exception.

mopinko

(70,121 posts)
8. they want to blame impeachment on the cia.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 12:27 AM
Oct 2019

have a trumpkin in my life, and his head was exploding about the cia. i assumed it was about the whistle blower, but this seems like they want to hang it on the spooks.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
10. Is it wise to attack the CIA?
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 12:57 AM
Oct 2019

I've know people in the FBI, they were pretty normal but extremely straight laced. The CIA is a whole different bag of snakes though. I know I'd never willingly anger them.

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
28. Well, Schumer said Intelligence had six ways to Sunday...
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:27 AM
Oct 2019

Of getting you back. Let’s hope it’s true in this case.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
38. As the son of a 25 year veteran of "The Company", I can say unequivocally....
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 04:25 PM
Oct 2019

No

No it isn’t

In spite of the opinions of many on this board, and conceding that the CIA has done its share of nefarious things, it is by and large staffed by true patriots.

People who take their oath very seriously and would always put country above party politics.

Wounded Bear

(58,666 posts)
18. Trumplodytes already believe Pres Obama is guilty...
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 10:54 AM
Oct 2019

they believe what they're told by Fox and 8Chan.

Our hope lies in the quiet middle. They have to be woken up.

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
19. True
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:01 AM
Oct 2019

but mere propaganda is different from a criminal indictment against Obama. The largely media has ignored Trump's bullshit accusations. They will have to report on Obama being charged, even if it is "trumped up".

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
22. I am hoping this whole thing is shut down from embarressment
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:10 AM
Oct 2019

but i still think this is Trump's goal, realized or not.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
24. Yes
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:15 AM
Oct 2019

I don't think his goal is to actually charge anyone but to give his idiot supporters a talking point.

This will probably go the way of the failed voter fraud commission.

Liberal In Texas

(13,556 posts)
23. This whole thing is just kicking up dust so the "both sides do it" crowd
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:11 AM
Oct 2019

will have something to reference. It's a way to discourage those in the middle so they'll stay home on election day.




edhopper

(33,587 posts)
27. The Trump lawyer said he could
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:24 AM
Oct 2019

after he leaves office.

“Once a president is removed from office, any local authority” could prosecute him, Consovoy told a panel of three judges from the U.S. Second Circuit Court of Appeals. “This is not a permanent immunity.”

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
29. Good luck with that
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:28 AM
Oct 2019

There’s no substance to this. It’s simple misdirection and in the end, it won’t work. There will be no charges and no prosecutions. There’s simply nothing that could possibly hold up in court. Desperation is setting in.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
30. Is it trump, or is this being done for Putin also
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:42 AM
Oct 2019

And to try to criminalize all in that administration. When he gets more desperate he'll start trying to talk about how corrupt all the past presidents have been, and use that as a threat if he's exposed. He'll have others find things they can use only add some made up stuff again on others like he's done to president Obama, Hillary, and Biden, but he'll include other past presidents. He always uses this tactic when he's cornered, come up with BS reasons others should be found guilty.when he accuses others always look at it that he's doing that, not the people he trumps up accusations to use against them with.

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
34. If I thought it was only drumpf, barr, giuliani, and
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 12:11 PM
Oct 2019

the rest of the clown car I wouldn't be so terrified.

Putin's the man behind the curtain and he is homicidal.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
31. i dont think they know who they are after..just fishing..barr needed a vaca so this way its paid for
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:43 AM
Oct 2019

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
33. Been seeing this from the beginning
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 12:07 PM
Oct 2019

Drumpf all about revenge.

I would lay down my life to protect Obama. He is good incarnate. Drumpf the polar opposite.

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
36. Then...shouldn't Obama be part of the investigatory team? So he can confront his accusers?
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 03:33 PM
Oct 2019

Shouldn't Obama have his lawyers working alongside the DOJ to debunk evidence in real time?

You know, like the Republicans all say. That thing they found in our Constitution.

budkin

(6,703 posts)
39. I honestly believe Trump wants to impeach Obama
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 04:32 PM
Oct 2019

Yes, I know how it sounds, but look who we're dealing with here.

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