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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis Barr Russia investigation bullshit..They are going after Obama.
They want to go after him for abuse of power.
Trump needs to make Obama the bad President.
triron
(22,006 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)It's really quite frightening. I thought, Jesus, Putin has really fucked us in the butt quite royally. Is there now any doubt that Trump is a Russian asset? He is doing his very very best to destroy the CIA and the FBI. And that Barr guy! There is no lowest level, no bottom rung on the descent into Hell that the Trump train will go. That's how intense Trump's passion for vengence and hatred is.
I cannot say in words or put in writing the images in my head of the justice that Trump and Barr deserve. But I'm sure I'm not the only one. This is the time now for each of us to stay very very calm. I equate this phony criminal investigation scam that Barr is running as about equal to the Nazis Krystal Nacht, where they blew up the German parliament. I feel that it is that grim.
triron
(22,006 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)It was a night in 1938, when Jewish synagogues, homes, and businesses were vandalizedand torched. Jewish men were murdered and rounded up to be shipped off to prisons and concentration camps. You can find lots of info online, beginning
here https://www.history.com/topics/holocaust/kristallnacht
In 1933, Nazis burned down the Reichstag, which was their parliament building, as a false flag operation to blame the Jews for the fire. See https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-reichstag-fire.
triron
(22,006 posts)Thanks. To think we are head in a similar direction is horrifying. Is
our population behaving similarly to the German people in the early 1930s.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Trumpers villify immigrants and non-whites, just as the Nazis villified Jews.
greyl
(22,990 posts)sop
(10,192 posts)This time his deplorables will chanting Lock Him Up! But first Barr has to launches an official DOJ criminal investigation of Trumps political enemies.
And get ready for the endless whataboutisms from Republicans during the impeachment hearings. I can just hear Gym Jordan and Matt Gaetz braying, What about Obama and Biden, why arent we investigating their corruption and treason?
tman
(983 posts)It's bad for your health.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Good advice for everyone.
RockRaven
(14,972 posts)clown-show Trump-Barr nonsense. There would literally be hundreds of defense witnesses who would document in stunning detail how the Russia investigation happened, and how nothing Obama said or did was inappropriate but everything Trump and Barr were up to was inappropriate.
On top of which, any DOJ prosecutor who followed orders and proceeded with that obviously bogus case would probably get disbarred eventually -- and they all know it, even the ones who hate Obama. Barr won't be able to find someone to put their name on it.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)Trump always makes things worse for Trump. This will be no exception.
mopinko
(70,121 posts)have a trumpkin in my life, and his head was exploding about the cia. i assumed it was about the whistle blower, but this seems like they want to hang it on the spooks.
herding cats
(19,565 posts)I've know people in the FBI, they were pretty normal but extremely straight laced. The CIA is a whole different bag of snakes though. I know I'd never willingly anger them.
mopinko
(70,121 posts)herding cats
(19,565 posts)I never thought I'd be on their side. These are strange days.
mopinko
(70,121 posts)VarryOn
(2,343 posts)Of getting you back. Lets hope its true in this case.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,370 posts)No
No it isnt
In spite of the opinions of many on this board, and conceding that the CIA has done its share of nefarious things, it is by and large staffed by true patriots.
People who take their oath very seriously and would always put country above party politics.
Demonaut
(8,918 posts)edhopper
(33,587 posts)because I still think this is Trump's goal. And recent statements bare that out.
Wounded Bear
(58,666 posts)they believe what they're told by Fox and 8Chan.
Our hope lies in the quiet middle. They have to be woken up.
edhopper
(33,587 posts)but mere propaganda is different from a criminal indictment against Obama. The largely media has ignored Trump's bullshit accusations. They will have to report on Obama being charged, even if it is "trumped up".
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)edhopper
(33,587 posts)but i still think this is Trump's goal, realized or not.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)I don't think his goal is to actually charge anyone but to give his idiot supporters a talking point.
This will probably go the way of the failed voter fraud commission.
Liberal In Texas
(13,556 posts)will have something to reference. It's a way to discourage those in the middle so they'll stay home on election day.
edhopper
(33,587 posts)Solomon
(12,310 posts)a sitting president can't commit a crime.
edhopper
(33,587 posts)after he leaves office.
Once a president is removed from office, any local authority could prosecute him, Consovoy told a panel of three judges from the U.S. Second Circuit Court of Appeals. This is not a permanent immunity.
paleotn
(17,931 posts)Theres no substance to this. Its simple misdirection and in the end, it wont work. There will be no charges and no prosecutions. Theres simply nothing that could possibly hold up in court. Desperation is setting in.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)And to try to criminalize all in that administration. When he gets more desperate he'll start trying to talk about how corrupt all the past presidents have been, and use that as a threat if he's exposed. He'll have others find things they can use only add some made up stuff again on others like he's done to president Obama, Hillary, and Biden, but he'll include other past presidents. He always uses this tactic when he's cornered, come up with BS reasons others should be found guilty.when he accuses others always look at it that he's doing that, not the people he trumps up accusations to use against them with.
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)the rest of the clown car I wouldn't be so terrified.
Putin's the man behind the curtain and he is homicidal.
samnsara
(17,622 posts)cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)Drumpf all about revenge.
I would lay down my life to protect Obama. He is good incarnate. Drumpf the polar opposite.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,768 posts)Shouldn't Obama have his lawyers working alongside the DOJ to debunk evidence in real time?
You know, like the Republicans all say. That thing they found in our Constitution.
budkin
(6,703 posts)Yes, I know how it sounds, but look who we're dealing with here.