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kentuck

(111,103 posts) Fri Oct 25, 2019, 06:33 AM Oct 2019

Two possible reasons Barr has opened a criminal investigation on the Russian scandal?

He may see the writing on the wall?

He may have been told by Donald Trump to do it to slow down the impeachment process? This is a possible scenario since he seems to have a lip-lock on Trump's ass.

Or he may see the direction it is going and he has reason to believe that indeed, Russia was involved? With the recent revelations about Giuliani and his "associates" and other testimony from reliable witnesses, he may have concluded that he has no choice but to attempt to be on the right side of history? After all, how would it look if the truth comes out and he is standing there with his hands covering his eyes?

Whether he has chosen to continue to cover for Donald Trump or to pursue a more independent investigation is still to be seen?

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Two possible reasons Barr has opened a criminal investigation on the Russian scandal? (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2019 OP

I don't think he has any good motives, only self serving ones. FM123 Oct 2019 #1

Frightening. Laurian Oct 2019 #2

I think neither of these canetoad Oct 2019 #3

Truly horrifying. Anon-C Oct 2019 #14

Your second scenario about him getting on the right side dewsgirl Oct 2019 #4

he was hired to save trump at all costs. Even if it destroys our nation mucifer Oct 2019 #5

Perhaps Democrats should make a louder call for him to recuse himself? kentuck Oct 2019 #6

Agreed. Anon-C Oct 2019 #15

Just briefly Jarqui Oct 2019 #7

"We need a strong case before we send this to Judge Roland Freisler!" struggle4progress Oct 2019 #8

It's in large part, IMO, a storyline to keep (some) 2020 voters believing in the witch hunt defense. JudyM Oct 2019 #9

When we Impeach, I expect there will be democrats subpoenaed for DOJ hearings.... spanone Oct 2019 #10

They are desperate to fabricate a cohesive narrative. nt UniteFightBack Oct 2019 #11

They seemed to have reached a dead end on their narrative. kentuck Oct 2019 #12

He dosn't give a shit about being on the side of angels, never has. He's a rankly partisan brawler lark Oct 2019 #13

Gestapo enforcer Bayard Oct 2019 #16

FM123

(10,053 posts)

1. I don't think he has any good motives, only self serving ones.

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:00 AM

Oct 2019

I am sure that trump told him to slow down the impeachment process but there is more to this monster than meets the eye. Just like with the Mueller investigation, Barr pretends to be a "real Attorney General" but he is up to no good - whatever the hell that is...

Laurian

(2,593 posts)

2. Frightening.

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:02 AM

Oct 2019

I have no doubt he’s doing this to benefit Trump, but his objective is not clear to me. Diversion or an attempt to punish Trump “enemies”. The latter infuriates and alarms me.

canetoad

(17,169 posts)

3. I think neither of these

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:08 AM

Oct 2019

Gut feeling is a connection with Barr's father. The headmaster censured for 'authoritarianism'.

Barr's father employed a 21 yo, inexperienced Jeffrey Epstain as a lecturer at Dalton College.

You can draw a line thru Barr's father, Epstein and Trump.

Anon-C

(3,430 posts)

14. Truly horrifying.

Reply to canetoad (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 09:24 AM

Oct 2019

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)

4. Your second scenario about him getting on the right side

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:14 AM

Oct 2019

of history, has to be the most positive outlooks I have seen so far. I would bet everything I have, that his reasons are far more nefarious than that.

mucifer

(23,550 posts)

5. he was hired to save trump at all costs. Even if it destroys our nation

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:18 AM

Oct 2019

he agreed to do it. he got the job.

That is my opinion. This is realllly scary.

kentuck

(111,103 posts)

6. Perhaps Democrats should make a louder call for him to recuse himself?

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:24 AM

Oct 2019

Or release the entire Mueller Report.

The people have a right to see what Mueller has reported concerning the Russian investigation.

Anon-C

(3,430 posts)

15. Agreed.

Reply to kentuck (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 09:25 AM

Oct 2019

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)

7. Just briefly

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 08:05 AM

Oct 2019

All the intelligence agencies found Russia messed with the 2016 election
Several other intelligence agencies from allies concluded something was up
FISA warrants were granted by judges based on Russia messing around
Several court cases either indicted, got confessions/flipped witnesses or got convictions related to this
Mueller's investigation concluded as much
The Senate investigation just ended with similar conclusions
Over 270 contacts were documented between Russia and the Trump campaign

Oct 2016: Yes, 17 intelligence agencies really did say Russia was behind hacking
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/21/17-intelligence-agencies-russia-behind-hacking/92514592/

etc

Whether they were able to find enough evidence over all the obstruction that Trump colluded with Russia is not greatly material when assessing whether they were justified to look into it. The evidence is overwhelming that they were justified.

The recently released Senate report
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume2.pdf
warns that it could happen again in 2020

All Barr can be looking for is some technicality to try to muddy the waters for Trump.

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)

8. "We need a strong case before we send this to Judge Roland Freisler!"

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 08:11 AM

Oct 2019

JudyM

(29,251 posts)

9. It's in large part, IMO, a storyline to keep (some) 2020 voters believing in the witch hunt defense.

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 08:34 AM

Oct 2019

spanone

(135,844 posts)

10. When we Impeach, I expect there will be democrats subpoenaed for DOJ hearings....

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 08:39 AM

Oct 2019

and the republicans will play the hardest ball we've ever seen.

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)

11. They are desperate to fabricate a cohesive narrative. nt

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 08:40 AM

Oct 2019

kentuck

(111,103 posts)

12. They seemed to have reached a dead end on their narrative.

Reply to UniteFightBack (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 08:46 AM

Oct 2019

They cannot come up with anything rational that people will believe.

lark

(23,105 posts)

13. He dosn't give a shit about being on the side of angels, never has. He's a rankly partisan brawler

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 08:59 AM

Oct 2019

& fascism's consigliere. Since drumpf is the current fascist oligarch is charge, that means his mouth is firmly planted on Cheetolini's butt crack. Is he a big enough asshole to try to shift the blame for russia hacking to obama, really? This is just so sickening and wrong

Bayard

(22,100 posts)

16. Gestapo enforcer

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:28 PM

Oct 2019

Arrest anyone that was involved in the Russia investigation. Then Obama, Hillary, Brennan, Pelosi, Nadler, and Schiff, on Trumped Up charges. Then throw all progressive media in prison, and finally, come for all Dems.

Think this can't happen? Did you think it would get as far as it has? tRump is Putin's instrument of destruction. He's just waiting for maximum damage and chaos, and then he'll step in.

I can see these guys storming into Congress..... with pizza.

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