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October 25, 2019
By David Leonhardt
Opinion Columnist
The founders used broad language when they described the grounds for impeachment the famous high crimes and misdemeanors. The generality of the term ensured that impeachment would be a political process, rather than a technical or purely legal one. There is no specific definition of an impeachable crime, in the way that there is a definition of robbery, assault or embezzlement.
But the founders did leave some pretty strong evidence for what kinds of offenses they were imagining. And President Trump by seeking foreign interference in domestic politics, for personal gain has come closer to committing those particular offenses than any president before him. He has outdone Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton, who were impeached, and Richard Nixon, who would have been had he not resigned.
As the legal scholars Jean Galbraith and Michel Paradis wrote in a Wall Street Journal op-ed this week:
In Americas long history, Trump appears to be the president most deserving of impeachment as the founders envisioned it. Congratulations, Mr. President.
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October 25, 2019
By David Leonhardt
Opinion Columnist
The founders used broad language when they described the grounds for impeachment the famous high crimes and misdemeanors. The generality of the term ensured that impeachment would be a political process, rather than a technical or purely legal one. There is no specific definition of an impeachable crime, in the way that there is a definition of robbery, assault or embezzlement.
But the founders did leave some pretty strong evidence for what kinds of offenses they were imagining. And President Trump by seeking foreign interference in domestic politics, for personal gain has come closer to committing those particular offenses than any president before him. He has outdone Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton, who were impeached, and Richard Nixon, who would have been had he not resigned.
As the legal scholars Jean Galbraith and Michel Paradis wrote in a Wall Street Journal op-ed this week:
When drafting the Constitutions Impeachment Clause, the Framers had a specific historical episode in mind. In 1649 the English House of Commons impeached King Charles I for treason. Charles was alleged to have unlawfully subverted English democracy, and the final article of impeachment charged that he colluded with Englands foreign adversaries in his campaign against his domestic political rivals
During the Constitutional Convention, Benjamin Franklin cited this example of a first Magistrate being formally brought to public Justice as reason to include an impeachment clause in the Constitution. James Madison agreed, noting the need for defending the Community against the incapacity, negligence or perfidy of the chief Magistrate, who might betray his trust to foreign powers.
In Americas long history, Trump appears to be the president most deserving of impeachment as the founders envisioned it. Congratulations, Mr. President.
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"In America's long history, Trump appears to be the president most deserving of impeachment..." (Original Post)
Dennis Donovan
Oct 2019
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Constitutionally the grounds for Trump's impeachment and conviction are solid
Buckeyeblue
Oct 2019
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Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)1. Constitutionally the grounds for Trump's impeachment and conviction are solid
They align strongly with the framer's intent, which is a constitutional position many Republicans take. I'd like to hear Rand Paul's take on this. He ties to pass himself off as a constitutional purest, so I would think he would be taking this quite seriously.
kentuck
(111,102 posts)2. He has set a precedent for corruption and treasonous activity.
Because it doesn't match up with most of our known history, it makes it more difficult to bring it into focus.