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gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Survey sample: Ben Carson and Trump's African-American
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:08 PM
Oct 2019

But as long as Trump believes it, that's all that matters.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
6. I was interested in the numbers but it got annoying
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 05:28 PM
Oct 2019

because the video on that terrible site takes up half the screen of my tablet and I can't scroll it away or close it.
Either way, no reason to get worked up because of the 32% when it was based on 69 male AA. It's normal with polls that subgroups get smaller and the possibilities of outliers increase. The article didn't even try to make that specific result an issue.

keithbvadu2

(36,828 posts)
8. Rough estimate of poll accuracy?
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 05:55 PM
Oct 2019

Rough estimate of poll accuracy?

I read once that poll accuracy is determined by the number of folks polled.

Take the square root of the number polled.

Divide 100 by that square root.

It gives you the approx +/_ accuracy.

400 folks polled is +/_ 5% accurate.

1600 folks polled is +/_ 2.5% accurate

Very rough and simplistic.

A statistics class would hammer you with more details.

Especially; are the folks polled a valid cross section of the voters?

Or; are they mostly true believers in the issue/candidate or mostly non-believers?

keithbvadu2

(36,828 posts)
9. Is it a neutral poll or a push poll that guides you toward the answers they really want?
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 06:00 PM
Oct 2019

Is it a neutral poll or a push poll that guides you toward the answers they really want?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
13. Very low - only 69 African American men polled
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 04:35 AM
Oct 2019

with 22 saying they'd support Trump over the Democratic candidate. That's a margin of error of about 12%.

20-16 exit polls showed him getting 13% of black men.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Surprise? Close to half of AA are naturally wired conservative, and
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 06:17 PM
Oct 2019

the other half are naturally liberal in personality type. just like everyone else. Then environment comes in, and the two ultimately combine to create political views in every possible combination. Notably, of course men overall tend to be more conservative or less strongly liberal than women.

I hope 32% of black males who would for vote for Trump is unrealistic, but 20% sounds appallingly believable. Remember, we're talking about the same KIND of people as Trump's white male supporters, but with the different realities that come with different race.

As the primaries move forward, hopefully eliminating the candidates that white and black males, moderate conservatives but also large numbers of liberals, object to most will help the AA monolith tighten up and bring in a few of them in. The same of course for white men repelled by much of the MSM's "far-left Democrats" spin. Spin that's meant to have exactly that effect.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
11. Half of African Americans would still vote against gay marriage in 2017.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 06:25 PM
Oct 2019

Support was only 4% higher than Republicans in that poll. I'm guessing it's higher among AA men than AA women.

African Americans. Blacks have long been less supportive of same-sex marriage when compared with whites, but the share of African Americans who favor same-sex marriage has risen 12 percentage points since 2015, from 39% to 51%.

https://www.people-press.org/2017/06/26/support-for-same-sex-marriage-grows-even-among-groups-that-had-been-skeptical/


It sucks to be fighting for people who won't fight for you in return but I won't stop.
12. Anyone who believes this is a fool lol
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 06:56 PM
Oct 2019

I can't wait for election day when less than 10% of Black people vote for Trump.

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