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malaise

(269,094 posts)
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 10:43 AM Oct 2019

It just hit me - the reason he wanted the President of Ukraine to discredit the Mueller Report

is because he knew this day was coming. That call to manufacture stuff about the Bidens and to admit that the Ukraine was responsible for the election theft was made the day after Mueller testified to the House Committee.
Truth will out once we see the unredacted Mueller Report.

Justice is coming

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It just hit me - the reason he wanted the President of Ukraine to discredit the Mueller Report (Original Post) malaise Oct 2019 OP
The deadline is Oct 30th right? I'm calling for Halloween leaks, plus I'm off that day. nt UniteFightBack Oct 2019 #1
Yes indeed malaise Oct 2019 #2
Help. Deadline for what? So much shit out there...nt Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #23
Russian sanctions Johnny2X2X Oct 2019 #3
Yes but the reason for the sanctions was their involvement in the 2016 elections malaise Oct 2019 #5
When does the House get to see the Grand Jury information? Baitball Blogger Oct 2019 #8
The Judge's deadline was October 30 - next Wednesday malaise Oct 2019 #10
Thank you! Baitball Blogger Oct 2019 #11
of course they will take it to SCOTUS Grasswire2 Oct 2019 #15
The Mueller Report Scarsdale Oct 2019 #21
It is going to the SC as will other stuff, you see while rump has been pissing us off Eliot Rosewater Oct 2019 #26
So you are saying the crux of the matter is to shift Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #24
No - Biden is no coincidence malaise Oct 2019 #33
A chunk of the stuff that was redacted in the report BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #4
Very true malaise Oct 2019 #6
I don't think there are enough prisons to hold all the scum that are part of this administration! BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #7
I hear Gitmo has lots of space. shraby Oct 2019 #9
But you-know-who has ceased plane flights to Cuba except to Havana. BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #12
He needed to get the sanctions lifted from Russia yellerpup Oct 2019 #13
Pootie wants the sanctions lifted ASAP FakeNoose Oct 2019 #17
I think so. yellerpup Oct 2019 #19
I have a dumb question about "anywhere to go"... Backseat Driver Oct 2019 #30
The conspiracy clowns call it "The Insurance Policy" blogslut Oct 2019 #14
good info, thanks nt Grasswire2 Oct 2019 #16
Excellent post malaise Oct 2019 #18
Yes. They know what they did, so when stuff comes out, they know the full scoop before its a scoop. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #20
A very last minute appeal. Watch for it. machoneman Oct 2019 #22
His desperation has reached heretofore unseen BootinUp Oct 2019 #25
Traitor Tot Knows What He's Done. OMGWTF Oct 2019 #28
The date will come and go as appeals will be filed. OR they will just ignore the order. NT SayItLoud Oct 2019 #27
Recommended. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #29
Ukraine is the key to unlock oil reserves. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2019 #31
Rendition Irony Time? moonseller66 Oct 2019 #32

Johnny2X2X

(19,081 posts)
3. Russian sanctions
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 10:52 AM
Oct 2019

A big part of this was discrediting they Mueller report so he could remove a Russian sanctions that are in place because of their interference in our election.

malaise

(269,094 posts)
5. Yes but the reason for the sanctions was their involvement in the 2016 elections
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 10:55 AM
Oct 2019

and the unredacted Mueller Report will show that they were very much involved. So the Con is prepared to discredit every American institution to please Putin. Someone sure has the goods on the Con.

Baitball Blogger

(46,749 posts)
8. When does the House get to see the Grand Jury information?
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:06 AM
Oct 2019

I hate to think they only have four days to sort this out. Do you have any idea what the process is to extend those sanctions?

malaise

(269,094 posts)
10. The Judge's deadline was October 30 - next Wednesday
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:11 AM
Oct 2019

the question is will the Con and his lawyers appeal. Have no idea bout the second part.

Baitball Blogger

(46,749 posts)
11. Thank you!
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:19 AM
Oct 2019

Pelosi acts slowly, but with great deliberation. I'm sure she will come up with something that is satisfying and just.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
21. The Mueller Report
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 12:12 PM
Oct 2019

should have been released right away. What is being hidden by keeping it under wraps? Taxpayer funded investigations should be shown to EVERYONE, not just a select few. Barr needs to be dis-barred. I am really disappointed with Rosenstein, I thought he was one of the good guys.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
26. It is going to the SC as will other stuff, you see while rump has been pissing us off
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 01:07 PM
Oct 2019

and killing children at the border and in the Ukraine he and Moscow Mitch have been filling all of the courts with anti American, anti constitution Putin/Bannon/GOP scumbags who will NEVER follow the law.


I am so angry at the people who did not vote for Hillary or who bashed her, THEY and Comey are to blame for what will be HELL for the next 30 years and NOBODY is seeing the Mueller report unless we take back the WH and then HOPE Barr doesnt revise it and delete stuff...which he will OF COURSE.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. So you are saying the crux of the matter is to shift
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 12:58 PM
Oct 2019

Blame to Ukraine for Putin to get sanctions lifted. Which would also discredit Mueller and all the intelligence that points to Russia? He can say, see nothing bad about Russia. And would allow Russia to conquer Ukraine who will then be a bad actor.

And getting Biden dirt is just a coincidental goal?

I have wondered why Ukraine didn't just open an investigation on Biden. Not that big a deal. But to ask a country to take the fall on the 2016 election hack, another story.

malaise

(269,094 posts)
33. No - Biden is no coincidence
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 02:16 PM
Oct 2019

The Con is merely repeating what he and his goon squad did to Hillary but this time they tried to move the operation to the Ukraine and they are also trying to retroactively make up shit suggesting that the operation against Hillary was not in Russia at all but was in the Ukraine and was really a Democratic Party operation.

The fucker is twisted beyond pretzels.

BumRushDaShow

(129,197 posts)
4. A chunk of the stuff that was redacted in the report
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 10:55 AM
Oct 2019

had to do with Roger Stone because he refused to do a plea deal and his trial comes up November 5th.

I don't know if they will end up unredacting that part too but if they did (assuming no appeals manage to block the release before the trial), then all hell might break loose with that trial (unless they are able to move the trial date).

BumRushDaShow

(129,197 posts)
12. But you-know-who has ceased plane flights to Cuba except to Havana.
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:19 AM
Oct 2019


But I hear that NY wants to build 4 new prisons to replace Riker's so build those anyway and keep Riker's, which will have plenty of room....

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
13. He needed to get the sanctions lifted from Russia
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:20 AM
Oct 2019

before he ran out of time. To do that he needed to discredit the Mueller report.

FakeNoose

(32,669 posts)
17. Pootie wants the sanctions lifted ASAP
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:43 AM
Oct 2019

Once Chump is gone - via impeachment or ballot box - Pootie has zero chance of getting those sanctions lifted. That's why he's pushing so hard now.

Backseat Driver

(4,394 posts)
30. I have a dumb question about "anywhere to go"...
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 01:36 PM
Oct 2019

How do our countries cooperate seemingly seamlessly with regard to the orbiting International Space Station? It's not as if they don't share the same frig (space-ready food) and other "supplies". I think the 'nauts last took delivery from a Russian launch, no? If indeed they do get along so well, might that be an interesting option that might appeal (to his narcissism - 1st POTUS in space?) for "anywhere"? Know I could dig it his endless spinning, LOL!

blogslut

(38,004 posts)
14. The conspiracy clowns call it "The Insurance Policy"
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:24 AM
Oct 2019
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/trump-seized-conspiracy-theory-called-insurance-policy-now-it-s-n1062096

An anonymous post from March 2017 on the far-right 4chan message board teased a conspiracy theory that would eventually make its way to the White House.

“Russia could not have been the source of leaked Democrat emails released by Wikileaks,” the post teased, not citing any evidence for the assertion.

The post baselessly insinuated that CrowdStrike, a cybersecurity firm that worked with the Democratic National Committee and had been contracted to investigate a hack of its servers, fabricated a forensics report to frame Russia for election interference. The 4chan post was published three days before then-FBI Director James Comey testified before Congress about Russian interference in the 2016 election.

And that was how it started. That post is the first known written evidence of this unfounded conspiracy theory to exonerate Russia from meddling in the 2016 election, which more than two years later would make its way into the telephone call that may get President Donald Trump impeached. (Federal law enforcement officials have repeatedly made it clear that Russia unquestionably did meddle in the election.)

malaise

(269,094 posts)
18. Excellent post
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:44 AM
Oct 2019

Many forget that this was how this BS started.

I don't agree that this was all about sanctions. I think it is also about the Con's belief that he actually won an election and his fear of impeachment.

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
22. A very last minute appeal. Watch for it.
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 12:49 PM
Oct 2019

All part of a long reaching strategy to deny us the truth as long as possible in hopes he will be re-elected.

OMGWTF

(3,964 posts)
28. Traitor Tot Knows What He's Done.
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 01:30 PM
Oct 2019

He knows he's a POS and that everyone hates him. Everydamnthing he accuses others of doing, he is guilty of doing. 100% projection.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,128 posts)
31. Ukraine is the key to unlock oil reserves.
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 01:38 PM
Oct 2019

There needs to be a new word for when oil is responsible for our climate catastrophe, and Putin/Trump are destroying us as a people and a nation to unearth more and put our soldiers in harm's way to protect what will destroy us.

moonseller66

(430 posts)
32. Rendition Irony Time?
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 01:47 PM
Oct 2019

It's a shame the Hanoi Hilton is no more. Wouldn't it be oh so sweet to have trump and company sent for a protracted, lifetime stay at the "Hilton".

Somewhere John McCain would have a smile on.

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