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planetc

(7,823 posts)
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 03:34 PM Oct 2019

A reply to "Why Does Only One Party Play by the Rules?" (NYT 10/26/19)


Dear Ms Senior:

I read with interest your Oped "Why Does Only One Party Play by the Rules?" ** (10/26/19). In framing what you see as the problem, you immediately suggest a metaphor. “Democrats”, you say, “are acting as though there still are rules, when in fact they’re living in a political multiverse, with at least one parallel reality containing no rules at all.” If you fail to make much progress with your essay, I suggest it’s because you’re standing on the wrong metaphor. The problem is that the rule breakers aren’t in another universe, but the same one as the rule observers. Surely what you’re describing is more like a boxing match in which one man is using brass knuckles, and his opponent has both hands tied behind his back, and the referee is passed out drunk on a stool in the corner?

As a Democrat, I don’t much care about what’s going on in the next universe, because I’m working so hard to get my hands untied and dump a pail of water on the referee. The rules, which you pass over so lightly, govern what is fair in debate and rhetoric, and what is decent in behavior, and what is good governance. I also wonder why the referee takes so little responsibility for what’s going on in his ring. The Republicans aren’t following the rules of fair argument, or decent behavior, and this tendency of theirs has a long history, from Richard Nixon’s whisper campaign that his opponent was a pinko commie, to the Willy Horton ad, right up to Mr. Trump’s invitation for a “second amendment type” to dispose of his opponent. And we should not pretend that the Republican leadership’s hands are clean of Trump’s daily bullying. The rhetoric coming from the Republican Party is by now confined exclusively to name calling: anyone not in their camp is a “libtard,” and any act or initiative by a Democrat is sending the country straight to hell.

The Democrats, meanwhile, are doing what they always do: argue for policies that will solve some problem or ameliorate some suffering. The are fighting fairly rhetorically, and making sincere efforts to use our political system as it was intended to be used—to govern the people wisely and democratically. They are not authorizing political or character assassinations, or the elimination of all other opinions than theirs, or calling for civil war if the opposing party wins a majority. They’re boring as heck, and therein lies the real problem, which is not alternate realities.

The real problem is that the Republicans have declared that politics is mud wrestling, and the referee is passed out in the corner. If democracies have referees, a free press is them. The referee ought to wake up, confiscate the brass knuckles, untie the other fighter, and insist on a fair fight. What we find our referee doing instead is insisting that “both sides do it,” whatever it is. You, Ms Senior, are adept at this insistence when you say: “Of course Democratic politicians—all politicians— distort, gerrymander evidence, even lie and apply their greasy thumbs to the scales. (What was Bill Clinton doing on that plane with Loretta Lynch in 2016?)”. Leaving aside the question of precisely what distortions and lies Democratic candidates have told, and avoiding any consideration of what “gerrymandering evidence” might mean, I can tell you what Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton were talking about: they were chatting and comparing pictures of grandchildren. Here’s the scenario: Hillary Clinton did nothing wrong or illegal with her email, and knew that, and Bill Clinton knew that, and so he had no need to try to influence Loretta Lynch. Even if he had felt a need to put "a greasy thumb on the scale," he’s a smart man, and a lawyer, and he wouldn’t have contributed to Hillary’s imaginary ethics lapse by committing one of his own. Both Bill and Hillary Clinton have been ethical, hard working, and idealistic to the extent that they believe our political system can be made to work. I sometimes think that their idealism is what has drawn the consistently bad press they have survived since they arrived in Washington. And I know the media could not survive without drawing inaccurate comparisons between the Clinton and Trump impeachments.

You can’t have it both ways, Ms Senior: either the Democrats follow the rules, and stand in sharp contrast to the Republicans, or they don’t. If the Democrats are as bad as the Republicans, what in heaven’s name is your essay about?

Instead of recommending one more time that the Democrats save politics by concentrating on a “declaration of values,” how about the media impound the brass knuckles, penalize the Republicans a few points, and stop declaring the contest a draw before it’s over? Both parties don’t do it, and it will clarify your thinking wonderfully to recognize that.

** Sorry I can't supply a link to the Oped; I've exceeded my limit of free reading for the month. Anyone who can post a link, thanks.
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A reply to "Why Does Only One Party Play by the Rules?" (NYT 10/26/19) (Original Post) planetc Oct 2019 OP
The original Maeve Oct 2019 #1
Great retort ... did you send it to them? mr_lebowski Oct 2019 #2
Nah--the Times likes LTEs that are about 150 words long, and planetc Oct 2019 #8
Very appropriate metaphors. Persuasive and well written. Beakybird Oct 2019 #3
Excellent read! Thanks for sharing! Karadeniz Oct 2019 #4
Well done! cp Oct 2019 #5
Excellent rebuttal. wendyb-NC Oct 2019 #6
Brilliant. Trump calls the media the enemy of the people, and it kind of is Mr. Ected Oct 2019 #7
Trump and you are right. planetc Oct 2019 #9
K&R crickets Oct 2019 #10

Maeve

(42,285 posts)
1. The original
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 03:43 PM
Oct 2019
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/25/opinion/trump-2020-democrats.html

It’s that time of the campaign season when some Democrats are starting to feel — as President Jimmy Carter might have put it — malaise. They’re staring at their 2020 lineup and wondering whether it’s a guaranteed recipe for buyer’s remorse. Joe Biden is too old, Pete Buttigieg is too young, Kamala Harris is too uncertain, Bernie Sanders too unpalatable, Elizabeth Warren too unelectable.

All of which may be right. But I have an additional theory for why some Democrats are the vexed and depleted souls they seem to be these days, waking up with lead in their veins and worms in their stomachs. It boils down to this: They can’t escape the sense that they’re living by different rules.

Let me rephrase that: Democrats are acting as though there still are rules, when in fact they’re living in a political multiverse — with at least one parallel reality containing no rules at all.

What do you do when one party stakes its faith — and ultimately government itself — on observable, measurable realities while the other has made the cynical decision to cast away those principles away? How do you strategize? How do you cope?
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. Great retort ... did you send it to them?
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 03:51 PM
Oct 2019

If you've not done so yet, allow me to suggest breaking up some of those walls-o-text. People won't read huge paragraphs like that ... make 'em all the size of the last two

Great content, however

planetc

(7,823 posts)
8. Nah--the Times likes LTEs that are about 150 words long, and
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 07:21 PM
Oct 2019

I found this lady so annoying that I wanted to speak until I was done. Then I liked my own metaphor, and it was all downhill from there.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
7. Brilliant. Trump calls the media the enemy of the people, and it kind of is
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 06:37 PM
Oct 2019

But not in the way Trump projects.

They are the enemy of the people because they have quashed the people's party by omission and error, by silence and by misrepresentation. Without a sober referee, this calamity continues to fester.

We are blessed to have the Rachel Maddows and Lawrence O'Donnells among us to keep the dialogue alive. But the sheer force of the opposition is unnerving and destructive. We need our message to be amplified and the truth made clear. It's the only way to counter the monstrous tentacles of fascism.

planetc

(7,823 posts)
9. Trump and you are right.
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 07:42 PM
Oct 2019

The punditry are working hard every day to sustain their own delusion that they are "speaking truth to power." What they are actually doing is to promote the ideas that 1) the only thing really happening in the world is American politics, 2) American politics is an endless tug of war between the Republican and the Democratic parties, and 3) what the American voter needs most is another discussion of how this demographic and that base will respond to this or that utterly irrelevant happening. Like the Clinton/Lynch meeting. It was all anyone talked about for 48 hours, and it meant ... nothing. The fierce focus of the media's framing of everything that happens leaves out several enormous perspectives: the historical, the scientific, the social. So who, I ask myself, are all these pundits trying to impress? Who are they talking to? And the answer can only be ... each other. They want to impress each other, and justify their salaries no doubt.

All this means that they are no longer reporting the news, they are making it. And that's the most dangerous thing they're doing, pretending they have to report these stories whose obvious import they will modify until they have another example of the Republicans and Democrats evenly divided in a political battle.

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