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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHUGE: North Carolina congressional maps ordered to be redrawn for 2020 election.
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Republicans currently hold 10 out of 13 seats in what is arguably the most gerrymandered congressional map in the nation. Thats about to change.
Bloody marvellous
spooky3
(34,483 posts)Why the NC state court decision cannot be appealed but Gore v Bush, which started in the FL state system (right?) DID go to the USSC? Dont they both involve equal representation claims and federal voting?
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)and it's a matter for the States. Since the North Carolina Supreme Court ruled North Carolina has to change its districts, the Supreme Court will not take the case, thus Republicans have no reason to appeal it.
CaptainTruth
(6,604 posts)If a state court (up to the state supreme court) rules that a state matter violates the state constitution, SCOTUS isn't going to get involved, unless a case can be made that the matter violates the federal constitution, & SCOTUS has already ruled that *partisan* gerrymandering doesn't.
spooky3
(34,483 posts)Maeve
(42,289 posts)Which means justice wins in NC!
Now if we can get rid of gerrymandering here in Ohio too....
Takket
(21,635 posts)Specifically in the above article^^^
"The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that federal judges have no power to stop politicians from drawing electoral districts to preserve or expand their partys power, a landmark ruling that dissenters said will empower an explosion of extreme partisan gerrymandering."
Maeve
(42,289 posts)Which is what has happened now.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)What the Court in North Carolina may have done, like the one in Pennsylvania a few years ago, is specify HOW maps must be redrawn. I think Pennsylvania had a non-partisan panel draw the maps after rejecting republicans' effort to maintain their crooked advantage. If I remember correctly, North Carolina will go directly to a Court supervised non-partisan panel. If maps are drawn fairly, republicans lose big.
Here in Florida growth is causing problems for republicans. As parts of the state adds people, diversity and growth, republicans are jiggling districts all over the state and are still slowly losing state Legistlature and congressional seats. They can slow the process of losing seats, but if growth and diversity continues, they can't stop it from accelerating.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)unc70
(6,121 posts)This suit is about the US House districts. The courts previously rejected the N.C. House and Senate maps. Those were redrawn under a two week deadline and detailed instructions from the courts. They were much better than anything done recently. In a separate ruling, the Court accepted this most recent set of maps.
AdamGG
(1,295 posts)That seems like it would be circular logic.
unc70
(6,121 posts)If the General Assembly doesn't produce an acceptable map, the Court can the order the Redistricting be done by experts assigned by the Court.
ooky
(8,930 posts)Because the Republicans in the General Assembly aren't going to just hand us an acceptable map.
unc70
(6,121 posts)No idea what our GA will do regarding the US House districts.
ooky
(8,930 posts)I expect them to re-draw the map with much more thought than the maps they drew that targeted minority voters with precision, but it will still leave enough gerrymandering for them to preserve their majorities.
And I will add that I hope that they break up NC congressional 3 so I no longer have this new Trump lackey Murphy as my Congressman.
mysteryowl
(7,398 posts)I am sure that is written somewhere. Good to know they have heard of it.
Thekaspervote
(32,800 posts)Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)carolwade
(1 post)Needs to be done all across America!