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fleur-de-lisa

(14,628 posts) Tue Oct 29, 2019, 02:22 PM Oct 2019

"Repubs outsourced Ukraine policy to private lawyer paid by Russian mobsters. An Army vet objected."

Jonathan Chait ✔ @jonathanchait (New York Magazine)

Republicans outsourced Ukraine policy to a private lawyer being paid by Russian mobsters. An Army vet objected to their extortion racket. Republicans are calling him disloyal.

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"Repubs outsourced Ukraine policy to private lawyer paid by Russian mobsters. An Army vet objected." (Original Post) fleur-de-lisa Oct 2019 OP

K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Oct 2019 #1

That is exactly right mcar Oct 2019 #2

what an ominously dweller Oct 2019 #3

HA, it's just this simple, ain't it?? Leghorn21 Oct 2019 #4

A perfect distillation RainCaster Oct 2019 #5

Beautiful in its simplicity. crickets Oct 2019 #9

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman ain't a veteran.....yet Brother Buzz Oct 2019 #6

K&R! nt B Stieg Oct 2019 #7

The well of Republican shame is bottomless. What spineless, feckless weaklings they are. Republicans Pepsidog Oct 2019 #8

But Russian Mobsters wouldn't change votes .. Botany Oct 2019 #10

Fake news! He's not a veteran! mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2019 #11

In a broader sense he is a veteran of the Iraq war. As a veteran I agree that "veteran" is used.... usaf-vet Oct 2019 #13

I thought of that later. I agree that he is correctly thought of as a veteran in the mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2019 #14

The more I hear about the GOP's roll in the Ukraine bribery & extortion scandal ffr Oct 2019 #12

This just in from the thing that spawned Jacob Wohl: mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2019 #15

Forgetting all about Oliver North: mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2019 #16

Why did...Vindman turn up...in full uniform?" Grins Oct 2019 #17

Trumpworld wasted no time launching Swift Boat-style attacks on a Purple Heart recipient mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2019 #18

tblue37

(65,490 posts)

1. K&R for visibility. nt

Reply to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2019, 02:29 PM

Oct 2019

mcar

(42,390 posts)

2. That is exactly right

Reply to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2019, 02:32 PM

Oct 2019

Hypocrites, all.

dweller

(23,682 posts)

3. what an ominously

Reply to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2019, 02:40 PM

Oct 2019

eerie pic

✌🏼

Leghorn21

(13,527 posts)

4. HA, it's just this simple, ain't it??

Reply to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2019, 02:56 PM

Oct 2019

RainCaster

(10,927 posts)

5. A perfect distillation

Reply to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2019, 03:17 PM

Oct 2019

Better than Grey Goose

crickets

(25,986 posts)

9. Beautiful in its simplicity.

Reply to RainCaster (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 29, 2019, 03:52 PM

Oct 2019

No one can continue to claim that this is too complicated for the American public to understand.

Brother Buzz

(36,478 posts)

6. Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman ain't a veteran.....yet

Reply to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2019, 03:23 PM

Oct 2019

I'm just saying.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)

7. K&R! nt

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Tue Oct 29, 2019, 03:32 PM

Oct 2019

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)

8. The well of Republican shame is bottomless. What spineless, feckless weaklings they are. Republicans

Reply to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2019, 03:38 PM

Oct 2019

have been exposed for all to see.

Botany

(70,602 posts)

10. But Russian Mobsters wouldn't change votes ..

Reply to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2019, 03:57 PM

Oct 2019

.. or would they?

This the largest international crime operation in history and the Mobsters own the Republicans.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,659 posts)

11. Fake news! He's not a veteran!

Reply to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2019, 04:07 PM

Oct 2019

He's still on active duty. That makes his testimony even more compelling. He's putting his reputation on the line.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Vindman

usaf-vet

(6,215 posts)

13. In a broader sense he is a veteran of the Iraq war. As a veteran I agree that "veteran" is used....

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 29, 2019, 04:31 PM

Oct 2019

.... to describe someone who served in the military but is no longer on active duty.

But the dictionary expands on the use of the term veteran.

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/veteran

As a kid, it used to confuse me when my dad was described as a veteran printer. Printing had nothing to do with his job in the Navy during WW II. But he was a union printer for his whole life.

In this case, Thank you Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman for honoring your oath and speaking up.

Just saying!

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,659 posts)

14. I thought of that later. I agree that he is correctly thought of as a veteran in the

Reply to usaf-vet (Reply #13)

Tue Oct 29, 2019, 04:47 PM

Oct 2019

sense that he is a veteran of the Gulf War.

I restrict the use of the word "veteran" to someone who has received a discharge and is no longer carrying a green ID.

Wikipedia says there are variations on that now too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Uniformed_Services_Privilege_and_Identification_Card

Either way, I admire the guy for what he is doing.

Thanks for the feedback.

ffr

(22,672 posts)

12. The more I hear about the GOP's roll in the Ukraine bribery & extortion scandal

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Tue Oct 29, 2019, 04:09 PM

Oct 2019

The more I really hate very single republican voter.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,659 posts)

15. This just in from the thing that spawned Jacob Wohl:

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Tue Oct 29, 2019, 04:51 PM

Oct 2019

David Wohl Retweeted

Concerning to see “an active-duty member of the military who is openly flaunting a disagreement with his commander in chief and showing disrespect for the chain of command.”

Trump allies charge Lt. Col. Vindman disrespecting chain of comm. with testimony

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mahatmakanejeeves

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16. Forgetting all about Oliver North:

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Tue Oct 29, 2019, 04:54 PM

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Jason Miller Retweeted

NSC staff are not supposed to wear military uniform.

Why did Alex Vindman turn up for his testimony today in full uniform?

It's political theatre. A coup.

Because these people don't like Trump's America First foreign policy.

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{ETA:}

You can’t keep a good culture warrior down: The return of Oliver North

Oliver North in July 1987, testifying before a congressional committee about his role in the Iran-contra affair — the scandal that both landed him in court and made him an enduring hero for the conservative movement. (Lana Harris/AP)

Grins

(7,239 posts)

17. Why did...Vindman turn up...in full uniform?"

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 29, 2019, 05:31 PM

Oct 2019

“Why did Alex Vindman turn up for his testimony today in full uniform? It's political theatre. A coup.”

OK. Now, substitute “Oliver North” for “Alex Vindman” and let me know how you feel...

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,659 posts)

18. Trumpworld wasted no time launching Swift Boat-style attacks on a Purple Heart recipient

Reply to fleur-de-lisa (Original post)

Tue Oct 29, 2019, 05:38 PM

Oct 2019

Trumpworld wasted no time launching Swift Boat-style attacks on a Purple Heart recipient set to testify about his concerns regarding Trump's Ukraine dealings

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