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The fact checkers are hard at work (Original Post) Playinghardball Sep 2012 OP
Slight discrepancy, there. GreenPartyVoter Sep 2012 #1
"Yeah? Well I was close." lpbk2713 Sep 2012 #2
what's a couple orders of magnitude among friends? central scrutinizer Sep 2012 #8
Speaking Of Scale Of Magnitude DallasNE Sep 2012 #20
Yeah? I knew it was a number rock Sep 2012 #27
Whatever you say, Pinocchio. calimary Sep 2012 #3
Pinochio ToxMarz Sep 2012 #15
Welcome to DU, ToxMarz! calimary Sep 2012 #24
How are they not the least bit embarrassed by their constant lies Marie Marie Sep 2012 #4
And yet the MSM treats him as a Serious Person with deep economic knowledge. gkhouston Sep 2012 #5
So he was off by 1.35 million. So what? Did you see those Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #6
He was only off by 1.352 million jobs. You people are too picky. n/t cynatnite Sep 2012 #7
Oh come on you guys!! Give him a break - It's an easy mistake! jillan Sep 2012 #9
You people are just not thinking deep enough. Mr. Ryan was thinking in Base 24. BlueJazz Sep 2012 #10
Tell you what Ryan,...I'll round it up for ya... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #11
A couple of things I would like to see shawn703 Sep 2012 #12
+1 nt laundry_queen Sep 2012 #34
Nearly 1.4 million consumers filed for personal bankruptcy progree Sep 2012 #13
thanks for the link Enrique Sep 2012 #28
The 1.4 million figure includes non-business bankruptcies. subterranean Sep 2012 #14
Both numbers are heading down from 2009 bhikkhu Sep 2012 #18
96.5855% off isn't that bad... defacto7 Sep 2012 #16
He likes to round up. progressoid Sep 2012 #22
His brain works so fast, you have to apply a coefficient to the numbers he comes up with bhikkhu Sep 2012 #17
As Ellen Degeneres said Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #19
Coupon Care Ryan needs some SERIOUS SoapBox Sep 2012 #21
That's not evwn a little.minor lie. smirkymonkey Sep 2012 #25
or Groupon? alterfurz Sep 2012 #35
And the reason for all these bankruptcies is ??? ......... King_Klonopin Sep 2012 #23
Pulling numbers out of his lying ass! liberal N proud Sep 2012 #26
Lyin' Ryan set to "OCCUPY CONFESSIONALS" (coming to a city near you... Astazia Sep 2012 #29
WaPo Plumline: Paul Ryan has had what I’ve long thought was an undeserved good reputation among many pampango Sep 2012 #30
i went to politifact rdking647 Sep 2012 #31
I sure hope his brother "gives him a good ribbing" for this one LondonReign2 Sep 2012 #32
W-E-L-L-.....Since corporations are people, my friend Sheepshank Sep 2012 #33
By his own admission we know Paul Ryan is super-fast... alterfurz Sep 2012 #36

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
20. Speaking Of Scale Of Magnitude
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 02:11 AM
Sep 2012

This past Sunday a woman panelist on Meet The Press claimed, during a discussion on how Romney would create 12 million new jobs in his first 4 years, that Romney would approve the Keystone XL pipeline and that alone would create a million new jobs. Most experts say is would probably create not more than 5,000 jobs and most of those would disappear after 2 years.

ToxMarz

(2,169 posts)
15. Pinochio
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 01:35 AM
Sep 2012

It's funny. I've never thought he had a big nose. Definitely a strong angular nose. But now that so much attention is focused on his blatant lying and Pinochio references, every picture my eyes focus straight on his nose, and his regular nose appears HUGE! At first I thought it was Photoshoped.

calimary

(81,379 posts)
24. Welcome to DU, ToxMarz!
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 03:25 AM
Sep 2012

Glad you're with us, and we sure do need you!

We've got an election to win, and liars to defeat!




Now get to work.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
4. How are they not the least bit embarrassed by their constant lies
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 11:28 PM
Sep 2012

when everyone, even the right, is calling them out on them? Oh yeah, lacking the integrity gene.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
5. And yet the MSM treats him as a Serious Person with deep economic knowledge.
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 11:31 PM
Sep 2012

Deep piles of bullshit is more like it.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
9. Oh come on you guys!! Give him a break - It's an easy mistake!
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 11:40 PM
Sep 2012

Both figures have a 4 in them!!!



This man has NO conscience - or brains- or BOTh

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
10. You people are just not thinking deep enough. Mr. Ryan was thinking in Base 24.
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 12:45 AM
Sep 2012

Which is 1.423 million (fairly close) in base 10

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
11. Tell you what Ryan,...I'll round it up for ya...
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 12:49 AM
Sep 2012

Instead of 47 something,...I'll give ya an even 50 cents.

You give me 140 bucks in return.

Then I'll listen to you tell me about how brilliant you are with numbers.

Deal?

shawn703

(2,702 posts)
12. A couple of things I would like to see
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 01:06 AM
Sep 2012

One is for someone to ask the question "If Romney/Ryan thinks Obama's record is so bad, why do they need to lie about it?"

The second is for Biden to call Ryan a liar to his face in the VP debate when it's deserved.

progree

(10,909 posts)
13. Nearly 1.4 million consumers filed for personal bankruptcy
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 01:22 AM
Sep 2012

"In 2011, 9,772 businesses filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, and nearly 1.4 million consumers filed for personal bankruptcy."

Source: http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/09/02/bankruptcy-filing-by-bain-owned-firm-shows-inequity-of-system.html

Well, according to the Supreme Court, corporations (and businesses) are people, so I guess maybe people are businesses or some-such.

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"Ryan also got it wrong with regard to the number of business bankruptcies last year. In 2011, there were 1,410,653 total bankruptcies. Of that number 47,806 were business bankruptcies and 1,362,847 were non-business bankruptcies."

Source: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/fact-check-paul-ryans-jimmy-carter-comments/

A lot of other false Ryan statements at the above link.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
14. The 1.4 million figure includes non-business bankruptcies.
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 01:28 AM
Sep 2012

Both business and non-business bankruptcy filings were down from the previous year, but I guess Ryan forgot to mention that.

Source:
http://www.uscourts.gov/News/NewsView/11-11-07/Bankruptcy_Filings_Down_in_Fiscal_Year_2011.aspx

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
16. 96.5855% off isn't that bad...
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 01:45 AM
Sep 2012

I mean his marathon memory was off by about 26%. About the same difference.

bhikkhu

(10,720 posts)
17. His brain works so fast, you have to apply a coefficient to the numbers he comes up with
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 01:53 AM
Sep 2012

Its not his fault all the rest of us live in an inferior version of reality!

Summer Hathaway

(2,770 posts)
19. As Ellen Degeneres said
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 02:03 AM
Sep 2012

re the One Million Moms on FB against her as spokesperson for J.C. Penny: "Not that anyone is counting, but they only have 40,000 members on their page. So they're rounding up to the nearest million - and I get that."

Hey, who doesn't do that?

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
21. Coupon Care Ryan needs some SERIOUS
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 02:14 AM
Sep 2012

mental health help. I assume that it's covered as an option in HIS health care plan!

This continuous lying could make him even nuttier than he already is...maybe that is what THIRTEEN YEARS in Congress will do to ya!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
25. That's not evwn a little.minor lie.
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 07:44 AM
Sep 2012

That is a huge lie, distoting information and used to discredit the Obama administrtion.

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
23. And the reason for all these bankruptcies is ??? .........
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 02:37 AM
Sep 2012

TAXES and OBAMA and blah blah blah

Of course, the real reason is that the middle class has no money
to spend. Most of their spending/purchasing is done with credit cards.
We can't sustain a consumption-based, service-based economy
on massive debt, or it will collapse.

Obama has passed many bills that lowered taxes on small business.

Republicans have obstructed any bills which would have put more
money into the hands of the middle class, while clinging to their
trickle-down delusions.

Small business bankruptcies are common and expected; a good
number of small businesses will fail.
47,806 is still a large number, although trending downward -- but
PERSONAL bankruptcies, which have exploded because of the "legislation"
(written by lobbyists) that benefits banks and screws the consumer,
the huge amount of debt that the middle class has been forced to live on,
and the cost of health care, account for that remaining million plus.

Keep on spinnin' and lyin' all you want, Pauly, but you will find the
true cause of this problem in your own mirror.

Astazia

(262 posts)
29. Lyin' Ryan set to "OCCUPY CONFESSIONALS" (coming to a city near you...
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 09:20 AM
Sep 2012

I was raised in a Jewish home...& even I know a dutiful Catholic goes to confession for lying. What I don't know is how often should one go when each day comes more & more blatant lies. And they are enabled by other repukes when asked to comment on Lyin' Ryan's speech Wed. night, Mayor Rudy "9-11" Giuliani says "well look, when people give speeches not every fact is always absolutely accurate“.


Perhaps they have a priest onboard the Ryan campaign plane to make sure he doesn't amass press photos of him exiting churches in swing states for the next 8 weeks. He also needs tutors-"staffers" in math, biology, & ethics.(regardless of the Rmoney-Lyan campaign guy stating that they won't let fact checkers get in the way of the campaign. Personally, I hope they just keep on,keepin' on. They all (repuke surrogates & candidates) remind me of that old tired yet apropos joke...How can you tell if Ryan is lyin'? His lips are movin'!

pampango

(24,692 posts)
30. WaPo Plumline: Paul Ryan has had what I’ve long thought was an undeserved good reputation among many
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 09:29 AM
Sep 2012

in the press and in Washington. It shouldn’t survive tonight’s speech (at the republican convention).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/paul-ryan-fails----the-truth/2012/08/29/bbfe1eac-f254-11e1-b74c-84ed55e0300b_blog.html

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
33. W-E-L-L-.....Since corporations are people, my friend
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 10:45 AM
Sep 2012

he is probably counting every single bankrupcy filed in the nation. Not nice to mislead the constituency....again.

I honestly believe that they think their own team is so stupid, they can treat them like inane lap dogs. I wonder, the rank and file Republicans, do they like being treated this way?

alterfurz

(2,474 posts)
36. By his own admission we know Paul Ryan is super-fast...
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 12:26 PM
Sep 2012

...so how come those nerdy fact-checkers always seem to be able to catch him?

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