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mysteryowl

(7,396 posts) Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:42 AM Oct 2019

It is so tragic to hear how the republicans talk about this.

How can they possibly not see the corruption and fight for our collective democracy? I just don't get it.

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It is so tragic to hear how the republicans talk about this. (Original Post) mysteryowl Oct 2019 OP

They see the corruption, but since they are part of it, they can't work against it. nt tblue37 Oct 2019 #1

It is deeply troubling! mysteryowl Oct 2019 #2

Never underestimate the ability of uninformed voters to repeatedly make poor decisions. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #3

That is what really worries me. mysteryowl Oct 2019 #4

In my view, there are a few reasons to vote for the GOP. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #6

Which are all lies and their voters don't know it. mysteryowl Oct 2019 #16

It really is ironic to hear how they are characterizing this process. Grammy23 Oct 2019 #5

And the GOP is arguing about the supposed unfairness guillaumeb Oct 2019 #7

Exactly!! mysteryowl Oct 2019 #8

It almost made me gag to hear them emote in front of the cameras Grammy23 Oct 2019 #9

AND, they claim unfairness of house rules! mysteryowl Oct 2019 #13

That is what boggles the mind the most BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #10

I too hope the open hearings will help, but... mysteryowl Oct 2019 #11

I am hoping they will be curious enough to actually watch the testimony. Grammy23 Oct 2019 #15

Do you think Trump will testify? mysteryowl Oct 2019 #18

I highly doubt he will go before the cameras in the hearings. Grammy23 Oct 2019 #20

Today's process and vote, continued closed door hearing news, public hearings, more empedocles Oct 2019 #12

Please. We can hope. Nt Grammy23 Oct 2019 #17

They see the corruption Bettie Oct 2019 #14

They all need some very special therapy. mysteryowl Oct 2019 #19

It makes me very sad. nt UniteFightBack Oct 2019 #21

They believe in holding Power, and that end justifies their means. maxsolomon Oct 2019 #22

Yet horrifically tragic, they are willing to sacrifice mysteryowl Oct 2019 #23

They are drowning in a toxic waste dump and they will not take the life preserver smirkymonkey Oct 2019 #24

Easy, their whole political life depends on that corruption... Wounded Bear Oct 2019 #25

Yes, unfortunately true. mysteryowl Oct 2019 #28

Their collective pricks are in a cleft stick. . . DinahMoeHum Oct 2019 #26

They have a bad case of Turbineguy Oct 2019 #27

If they and they alone can't drink from the well, but are encouraged to share it.... magicarpet Oct 2019 #29

tblue37

(65,483 posts)

1. They see the corruption, but since they are part of it, they can't work against it. nt

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:43 AM

Oct 2019

mysteryowl

(7,396 posts)

2. It is deeply troubling!

Reply to tblue37 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:45 AM

Oct 2019

Plus, they go around spewing these lies and 1/2 the country believes them. It is just awful!

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)

3. Never underestimate the ability of uninformed voters to repeatedly make poor decisions.

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:45 AM

Oct 2019

And to also feel that they are well informed voters.

mysteryowl

(7,396 posts)

4. That is what really worries me.

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:47 AM

Oct 2019

They will keep voting for republicans and maybe even trump. It is very problematic.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)

6. In my view, there are a few reasons to vote for the GOP.

Reply to mysteryowl (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:48 AM

Oct 2019

1) Racism.

2) A belief in GOP social policies.

3) A belief in GOP economic policies.

mysteryowl

(7,396 posts)

16. Which are all lies and their voters don't know it.

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:02 PM

Oct 2019

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)

5. It really is ironic to hear how they are characterizing this process.

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:48 AM

Oct 2019

It does make me sad that so many people who have not paid attention to things happening in DC may not realize how much the Republicans are mischaracterizing this whole thing. I just hope that once open hearings are going, their ignorance will evaporate in the light of evidence.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)

7. And the GOP is arguing about the supposed unfairness

Reply to Grammy23 (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:49 AM

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of a system that they codified when Boehner was Speaker.

mysteryowl

(7,396 posts)

8. Exactly!!

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:51 AM

Oct 2019

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)

9. It almost made me gag to hear them emote in front of the cameras

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:54 AM

Oct 2019

as they read their statements. Lots of flailing and gesturing. All for nothing. The process will go forward and the American people will get to hear the testimony. Testimony that will damn tRump and maybe others, as well. And their emotional words used today will fade into the history books. They are marking their place in history. I suspect many of them will not be happy where they land.

mysteryowl

(7,396 posts)

13. AND, they claim unfairness of house rules!

Reply to Grammy23 (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:58 AM

Oct 2019

Don't even get me started with the unfairness of rules in the senate with Moscow Mitch.
Republicans have broken our system!

BumRushDaShow

(129,388 posts)

10. That is what boggles the mind the most

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:54 AM

Oct 2019

During the resolution markup last night, McGovern (Rules Committee Chair) had to literally read, word for word, the justifications written by Trey Gowdy, for how and why he conducted the Benghazi hearings the way he did. But the cognitive dissonance (or purposeful denial) was full force.

IOKIYAR

The GOP is empty but for noggins filled with bullshit talking points.

mysteryowl

(7,396 posts)

11. I too hope the open hearings will help, but...

Reply to Grammy23 (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:55 AM

Oct 2019

they will listen to more lies and misinformation on faux news and other radical RW propaganda spewing. I just don't know how the live hearings will even reach them.

Our country has so much it needs to change and heal from.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)

15. I am hoping they will be curious enough to actually watch the testimony.

Reply to mysteryowl (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:01 PM

Oct 2019

I remember watching the Watergate testimony. I didn’t follow politics at all at that time other than to vote. But that testimony was riveting AND history. So my hopes are high that more people will want to watch the current hearings for the same reasons. I’m looking forward to hearing Numbnuts defend himself. That ought to be enlightening.

mysteryowl

(7,396 posts)

18. Do you think Trump will testify?

Reply to Grammy23 (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:04 PM

Oct 2019

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)

20. I highly doubt he will go before the cameras in the hearings.

Reply to Grammy23 (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:56 PM

Oct 2019

He is more likely to do a series of Tweets or “helicopter pad interviews” with half of his drivel drowned out by the rotors. I imagine whoever is left in the WH will bust a gut trying to get him to refrain from going before the committee. Since he lies when the truth might serve him better, they know the danger if he testifies in his own defense. But IF he insists, it will be worth watching since he will incriminate himself every other breath. Stable genius, my ass.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)

12. Today's process and vote, continued closed door hearing news, public hearings, more

Reply to Grammy23 (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 11:58 AM

Oct 2019

court decisions proving the case against trump, more indictments, more arrests, and still more process - we're getting there. Long war.

Possibly, at the end, a great cultural shift - not as great as Germany and Japan post WWII, but . . .