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Atticus

(15,124 posts) Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:55 PM Oct 2019

I fully expect this to bring out the "slings and arrows", but the way I see it, especially sfter

reading their comments, if Petersen and Van Drew were to defect to the GOP whose talking points they glibly spew, today's vote would have been a 32 vote win instead of a 36 vote win.

This was the most important vote that either of them has yet cast and they just could not bring themselves to be Democrats.

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I fully expect this to bring out the "slings and arrows", but the way I see it, especially sfter (Original Post) Atticus Oct 2019 OP

Fragile districts? Historic NY Oct 2019 #1

Fuck that. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #7

There's a hell of a lot of bullying going on in lunatica Oct 2019 #2

Pelosi is probably fine with the way they voted. Kaleva Oct 2019 #3

Sometimes in votes like this, good Democrats might vote against only if Hoyt Oct 2019 #4

Did they have the option to abstain? alwaysinasnit Oct 2019 #5

changing parties would not change their vote rampartc Oct 2019 #6

I agree their changing parties would not change their votes, but at least we would not Atticus Oct 2019 #8

Their comments really bothered me. crickets Oct 2019 #11

You're right but the math is a little off. It would be a 34-vote victory instead of a 32-vote one. brush Oct 2019 #9

Subtract 2 from the Democratic total and add 2 to the GOP's. nt Atticus Oct 2019 #10

Maybe we're both wrong. They already voted repug so wouldn't it stay the same? brush Oct 2019 #12

Right now, their votes count as two DEMOCRATIC "no" votes. If they switched, they'd be Atticus Oct 2019 #13

Historic NY

(37,452 posts)

1. Fragile districts?

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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 05:59 PM

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Voltaire2

(13,124 posts)

7. Fuck that.

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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:43 PM

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lunatica

(53,410 posts)

2. There's a hell of a lot of bullying going on in

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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:01 PM

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our haloed halls of government. I’m sure it is all done with the greatest integrity and in bi-partisan brotherhood among America’s finest.

Kaleva

(36,333 posts)

3. Pelosi is probably fine with the way they voted.

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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:01 PM

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)

4. Sometimes in votes like this, good Democrats might vote against only if

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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:02 PM

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they know the resolution/bill is going to pass (or fail) anyway, if it helps them in their district. I’m OK with that. But, I don’t really know anything about these two.

alwaysinasnit

(5,071 posts)

5. Did they have the option to abstain?

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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:12 PM

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rampartc

(5,434 posts)

6. changing parties would not change their vote

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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:15 PM

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it would still be a 36 vote win.

it is easy to say that these guys could change parties and good riddance, but i'm sure they are supportive on less controversial issues.

i'm voting for governor next week, and the choice is clear. john bel Edwards will probably outlaw abortion, but at least he expanded Medicaid and passed a reasonable budget without cutting health care and education.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)

8. I agree their changing parties would not change their votes, but at least we would not

Reply to rampartc (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 06:46 PM

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be listening to Kevin McCarthy brag about the "bipartisan vote" against impeachment. And, I am not comforted by their votes "with" us on bills naming post offices and honoring hero first responders. Like I said, this was their most important vote to date and they were not just MIA; they defected.