Cheating motherfucker

which is between them.

He's earned that money by his performance on the links. No cheating involved there, as far as I know.

because your cat knocked the orange juice over in your lap this morning---

after Tiger's dad died, something happened.
Makes one think Earl somehow mindcontrolled Tiger(brainwashed almost), and Tiger lost that extra whatever he had.(focus???)
and never recovered.
Talent is not everything, and Tiger had easier competition than Jack ever had(and Tiger was always in better shape too).
Jack smoked, and was pudgy(now he is probably better fit than he was earlier in life).

Money is meaningless when the greats in the old days played for pennies (and would have played for free).
Same in tennis and bowling and any solo sport

Hell, Mariah Carey can keep getting top 10 records, that surely don't make her Elvis or the Beatles or Elton or anyone else.

Tiger's winning percentage is way higher. 27% vs 12% and cuts made Nicklaus missed cuts 85, Tiger 9.
There were maybe 6 good golfers in Nicklaus's time. There are far more people playing golf today.
Nicklaus never dominated like Tiger.

the other players know that it was in THEIR interest for Tiger to win and win often.


He singlehandedly raised all the prizes from top to bottom, so they made millions by being in 2nd all the way down

I often wonder if "the fix was in" because Tiger was the reason the sponsers paid the million dollar purses.

Jack on the other hand only cared about the majors after a while, and also really only cared about winning.
One reason he never really spent time on the senior tour was he said he beat all the same golfers in their prime, and it didn't "stimulate" him (I don't mean that sexually)LOL

And I would think Gary Player, Lee Trevino, Arnold Palmer when younger and five or six others all were top notch, whereas Tiger was way above all of his competitors.(IMHO there now are 50 others that would all have been considered a step below in the 1960s/1970s).

Sort of like Babe Ruth so early in his career being the all time home run hitter, had someone had 800 homeruns, Ruth might have hit 1000.(Had Willie Mays not had the long years in the army, he might have hit 750).

(and I watched Jack from the start too and a fan of Tiger's but think Jack was better)

and I think Jack's major record will stand, the years are gaining on Tiger.

It's impossible to compare older players as they don't have the newest clubs(which are almost radar like).

But I am sure Jack would have loved to play for those earnings

My kid went to the Bethpage LI NY tourney two weeks ago and watched Tiger play
There is alot of pressure on him and the golf world is counting on him because as said at the top here, his winning increases their earnings.

and I was at the PGA last year. There is just more people playing golf now and the players are better. The Europeans are better now. Everyone is better today. The best way to evaluate how good is how dominant someone is in their own era. Babe Ruth is probably the greatest ever because he was so dominant.

Many, many more top players now.

Now Jack's ball sucked and that is the truth.

The money does not compare, tho.

no, I disagree because Tiger when he was winning was way above any of the others

Tiger is not being beaten by them, but his mind is beating is beating him
He is not the same and is now rattled (getting older ones nerves never are as young)

but now he is one of 50 instead of then he was one of 1 with nobody able to touch him when he was playing well.

Jack was one of 6 greats, but the best of the six

IMHO, we will never know as Jack and Tiger didn't get a chance to play at the top of Jack's game

They both are great fun to watch though.

He had a good run, but I think its over. His downfall has been pretty epic.

with a spot locked up on the Ryder Cup team, and running neck-and-neck with McIlroy for PGA Player of the Year. I wouldn't mind experiencing that kind of "epic downfall".

Many were well paid but the real measure was their legacy on the field of play. Kids wanted to be able to "do that" and "that" was handle a basketball like Earl the Pearl Monroe or fly and dunk like Dr J.

Decades later we know the names Babe Ruth, Joe Louis, Stein Erickson, Sonja Henning, Jackie Robinson, Jerry West, John Wooden and so many others. I couldn't tell you how much any of those athletes made because it wasn't about money.

In today's "whoever dies with the most money wins" world, the paychecks of pro athletes give cover to the salaries of the outsourcing, greedy, anything-for-a-buck Romney's of the world.

My mother used to play golf with one of Sam Snead's cousins. My (infinitesimal) connection to the greats of golf.

I myself gave up golf at age 13 after nearly wrapping a club around a tree after a bad slice!