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Supreme Court Lawyer Says Trump Will Be Impeached, Won't Even Be on 2020 Ballot
By James Crowley On 11/5/19 at 10:16 AM EST
Thought leaders from the CEO of Wikipedia to Edward Snowden gathered in Lisbon, Portugal on Monday for the 2019 Web Summit, an annual tech conference that brings together experts from a variety of fields to discuss emerging innovations and current events. On Day 2 of the summit Tuesday, three of the assembled great minds debated the prospect of regime change in the United States, with former Acting Solicitor General of the United States Neal Katyal telling the audience, "I don't think Trump will be on the ballot next year, I think he will be impeached."
The lawyer's "strong words" received "huge applause" from the audience, summit attendee and DW News journalist Jordan Wildon noted in a tweet.
Katyal was speaking on a panel with Joe Pounder, CEO of Bullpen Strategy Group; Brittany Kaiser, co-founder of Own Your Data Foundation and Tim Alberta, the chief political correspondent for Politico. The panel, titled "One year out: Will Trump be re-elected?" was part of the summit's "Centre Stage" programming. Exactly one year ahead of the 2020 presidential election, panel members spoke on data, trends, and gut reactions to predict what is "dubbed by many as the election which will define a generation."
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malaise
(269,200 posts)and I hope we're right
Get thee to the greatest page
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)however, conviction and removal is another story that is still playing out
malaise
(269,200 posts)so he may well resign.
renate
(13,776 posts)And right now, although the evidence is piling up against him to such an extent that even some Senate Republicans might grow a spine, for the moment he's safe from removal, even if he's guaranteed to be impeached.
I wouldn't be surprised if he defected. Go to Turkey or Saudi Arabia or a friendly place like that on Air Force One and never get back on.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,600 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Just get him the fuck out of my country.
Qutzupalotl
(14,334 posts)not_the_one
(2,227 posts)We MUST shoot it down.
mopinko
(70,261 posts)japple
(9,844 posts)no longer be useful to anyone. Not Russia, not SA, not Turkey. He is only useful as long as he is POTUS. He is well and truly fucked.
ETA: to correct the lyrics!
tableturner
(1,684 posts)japple
(9,844 posts)I agree that he could be a great propaganda tool for Russia, but who would believe anything from a brain dead tRUMP?
lastlib
(23,311 posts)A) New York would be on him like grape juice on an Easter dress if he did; B) He enjoys the power and perks of the presidency; it "confirms" his perceived "greatness", And it gives him leverage over his enemies. It also gives him financial leverage for his business. He has little to no hesitation in violating any ethical constraints on that.
Butterflylady
(3,550 posts)I seriously doubt it.
malaise
(269,200 posts)He said impeachment threatens democracy - something written into the Constitution threatens democracy.
Bangs head.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)what's in the Constitution either.
(He only knows 2A cuz the NRA told him.)
malaise
(269,200 posts)Never have I seen such ignorance on parade at the highest level
Miguelito Loveless
(4,475 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)so, I'm hoping he's correct.
I think he'd be a great nominee for a Democratic president for SCOTUS - only 49 years old now
Loge23
(3,922 posts)I like Neal and find his commentary on point most of the time, but this is strictly wishful thinking.
There is no evidence at this point that the #IPOTUS will be impeached in the Senate. Further, we really have to wonder what it would take for the Senate to turn since the Fifth Avenue scenario, coddling to Putin, overt racism, and a clear quid pro quo case re: Ukraine is apparently not doing the trick.
I'm skeptical that even the election will evict this disgrace from the White House.
I do remain hopeful, but I really don't see a clear path to impeachment/removal.
Hope I'm wrong.
aggiesal
(8,935 posts)the Senate Convicts.
Treat it as the House acts like a GRAND JURY and indicts (Articles of Impeachment) if it find enough evidence.
The Senate acts like the court where the Impeached is Tried.
Javaman
(62,534 posts)the turtle will do his best to be "defiant" against the "witch hunt".
that will probably be the most interesting part of this whole thing to watch. Seeing just how the senate will convict.
still_one
(92,433 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Butterflylady
(3,550 posts)One can only hope. I do think they will drop 45 like a hot bag of dogshit if (and only if) the court of public opinion swings hard enough. Not there yet, but we've only just begun..
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,467 posts)It takes 2/3 of those present to convict. If 20 Rs stay home that day because of a fear of drowning (I've read that rats fear drowning so much they will abandon ship before anyone else), that leaves 32 Rs, 45 Ds, 3 Is (counting Amash as I now). With 80 present, it takes 54 to convict. If all Ds and Is vote to convict, it only takes 6 Rs to go along.
BigmanPigman
(51,638 posts)I aim high.
The Blue Flower
(5,446 posts)Today is a referendum on dumdum. They'll be happy to throw him under the bus and then back it over him if the outcome is anything like last time.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)red don is priming the MAGAts to consider it a badge of honor to vote for an impeached president.
And we all know those deluded cultists will follow their idol off this particular cliff (while he plots to steal their Social Security and Medicare during his second term).
aggiesal
(8,935 posts)I would have thought that Pendejo45 had forced you to sell it by now!
brooklynite
(94,757 posts)...I won't hold my breath.
Jarqui
(10,130 posts)The reason Trump pulled the stunt he did in the Ukraine is that he realized that he was unlikely to beat Biden otherwise. Getting caught appears to be having the reverse effect - he seems to be falling further behind Biden and the others.
The power brokers of the GOP will make the call on whether Trump is removed from office by the Senate. They control that decision - not Trump.
1. Do you think the power brokers of the GOP disagree about Trump's position with Biden?
2. Or do you think the power brokers of the GOP are more into loyalty to Trump than they are into hanging on to the power of the Oval Office? Trump before party?
3. Or do you think the power brokers of the GOP have concluded that out of all the possible candidates for the GOP, Trump gives the GOP the best chance to win in 2020?
Based on what we know and upon years of performance, I think those are all basically rhetorical questions because we already know the answers to them.
How Trump goes is a mystery. Resign? Bogus health excuse? Whatever. He's handy as a pinata for Dems to spend their time, money and energy on before they pull their switcheroo that minimizes the time to scrutinize their shiny "new" candidate.
tman
(983 posts)Still have faith in the senate GOP?
It's time to wake up.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,178 posts)In fact, he'll only go kicking and screaming. Even IF the Senate does the right thing. Because it makes great Reality TV. Maximum sympathy generation for his cult. And it will help back up his CT that it was some kind of coup.
All so he is set up in a good position to start his own media empire when he leaves. He may not even have to put up any of his own money for it. Like his buildings, he gets paid for agreeing they can stamp his name on the front, to increase its value and popularity. (which may not work so well in the future). But would work great for a deplorable run conspiracy theory network.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)Assets seized, restricted from doing business and public life.
Your scenario is a strong argument for the Rosenberg remedy for treasonous acts. He would do anything for vengeance if left with any assets and power.
ffr
(22,672 posts)This cabal of swamp dwellers needs TO GO!
progressoid
(49,999 posts)Hekate
(90,846 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)ancianita
(36,145 posts)with Clinton and it won't happen with Trump.
Trump will have to remove himself. Which we know is unlikely.
Unless these global folks know something Americans don't about American politics and global cyber powers, Katyal and the rest look as if they're fooling themselves.
Portugal is far from the USA as they speak of "data, trends and gut reactions and ... defining a generation." Given the on-the-ground fight the Republicans and their owners are waging over here, this comes across as some rah rah cheerleading at best, happy horseshit at worst.
Scalded Nun
(1,241 posts)As soon as the word 'God' is uttered at the end of the swearing in ceremony slap them on his tiny little hands and march him off to jail.
safeinOhio
(32,729 posts)we aint seen nuttin yet. Every week and every day it gets worse. Between now and Nov 2020 a lot can and will happen.
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)God's ear...
Blue Owl
(50,523 posts)n/t
mopinko
(70,261 posts)every rethuglican senator now knows they are in their last term.
justice is coming, whether it is like water on a stone, or rolls down like thunder, it is accelerating. greatly.