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sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:02 PM Sep 2012

Ron Paul rumors.

The rumor is that Ron Paul will make an announcement on Jay Leno tonight. I take it with a grain of salt, but it would certainly be interesting if he runs third party or throws his weight behind the Libertarian party.

Speculation Mounts That Ron Paul Will Launch Third Party Presidential Bid On Tuesday’s Tonight Show

http://www.mediaite.com/online/speculation-mounts-that-ron-paul-will-launch-third-party-presidential-bid-on-tuesdays-tonight-show/

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Ron Paul rumors. (Original Post) sufrommich Sep 2012 OP
Too good to be true, IMHO... joeybee12 Sep 2012 #1
I think it's bunk but if he does, I watched Romney's own campaign manager on C-Span talking about... Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #2
I don't think Paul will run, but I honestly wouldn't be sufrommich Sep 2012 #7
Ramney really blew it with him bluestateguy Sep 2012 #3
And that's what's so bizarre... a little lip service could have gone a long way, gkhouston Sep 2012 #5
perhaps they didn't script their message during the convention otherone Sep 2012 #19
Yeah, I have to say they seemed to really enjoy shooting themselves in the foot on that one. Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #24
Obama did that for the John Edwards/Dennis Kucinich crowd Horse with no Name Sep 2012 #17
Snort. Maddow must be giggling with delight. Could this election get any weirder? n/t gkhouston Sep 2012 #4
You aint seen nutten yet..............nt Stuart G Sep 2012 #6
It is way too late for an independent run. earthside Sep 2012 #8
Ron Paul is too anti-war to endorse Romney, especially after what Mitt said last week. reformist2 Sep 2012 #13
Somalia! otherone Sep 2012 #23
Is there anywhere he could qualify for the ballot this close to the election? LeftyMom Sep 2012 #9
I don't think so. But he could decide he'd rather be with sufrommich Sep 2012 #10
Would they tolerate his social conservatism? LeftyMom Sep 2012 #11
I think they probably would.I think he's had many sufrommich Sep 2012 #12
More than a few libertarians are anti-choice like him. HughBeaumont Sep 2012 #42
The ship from his home planet has arrived to pick him up? progressoid Sep 2012 #14
Actually, it's here with a new load of Ronbots to drop off. Arugula Latte Sep 2012 #44
It's my birthday, Care Acutely Sep 2012 #15
happy birthday otherone Sep 2012 #29
Thanks :-) Care Acutely Sep 2012 #30
all good stuff indeed otherone Sep 2012 #36
Please God, Let It Be.. otherone Sep 2012 #16
He'll have to run on the Ron Paul party ticket Ruby the Liberal Sep 2012 #18
Virgil Goode. earthside Sep 2012 #20
Thank you - edited Ruby the Liberal Sep 2012 #25
He might as well have his son on with him then... cherokeeprogressive Sep 2012 #21
Wouldn't it be a hoot... Sophiegirl Sep 2012 #22
Far more likely its a ploy to pull attention away from our convention. Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #26
Fuck Ron Paul. Pab Sungenis Sep 2012 #27
He'll probably just announce he's endorsing Mittens... regnaD kciN Sep 2012 #28
You know I wouldn't be too happy about it--he gets a lot of younger voters who should be with Obama. WI_DEM Sep 2012 #31
He's not gonna fuck up Jr and that creature that lives on top of his head. He'll endorse Herman and Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #32
This rumor brought to you by The Tonight Show on NBC. *NT* Cowpunk Sep 2012 #33
NBC, the network that did not broadcast Bill Clinton's speech jsr Sep 2012 #41
Ron Paul has defenders on DU ecstatic Sep 2012 #34
Mitt Romney needs to thank God for Rand Paul OmahaBlueDog Sep 2012 #35
Way too late to get on the ballot. He'll announce a new 800 number where his legion of idiots can FSogol Sep 2012 #37
so what happened? Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2012 #38
Still the same vague, noncommittal bullshit he's always done... Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #39
Ron Paul is all about money - for himself jsr Sep 2012 #40
Wrong Pall - HughBeaumont Sep 2012 #43

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
2. I think it's bunk but if he does, I watched Romney's own campaign manager on C-Span talking about...
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:06 PM
Sep 2012

...how an independent run would garner at least 15% of the votes in a 2012 race. He also brought up something interesting: This is the longest period of extreme anger the American public has had at the failure of government. I could see both of those things being true and I could also see them impacting Romney's campaign almost exclusively.

I don't know if I'd "like" to see such a thing happen, though. Too much dice rolling, even if I think it would take away from Romney.

PB

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
7. I don't think Paul will run, but I honestly wouldn't be
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:10 PM
Sep 2012

surprised if he breaks from the GOP. They've been treating him like GOP's little secret for some time, this last convention rule change was a slap in the face. I also wonder what effect angry Paulites refusing to vote GOP will have on depressing the GOP vote.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
3. Ramney really blew it with him
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:08 PM
Sep 2012

I think Paul was genuinely open to endorsing the ticket if his supporters and his issues were treated with respect, but that did not happen at the convention.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
5. And that's what's so bizarre... a little lip service could have gone a long way,
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:10 PM
Sep 2012

yet they went out of their way to piss people off.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
24. Yeah, I have to say they seemed to really enjoy shooting themselves in the foot on that one.
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:51 PM
Sep 2012

Politically, it doesn't make much sense.

PB

earthside

(6,960 posts)
8. It is way too late for an independent run.
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:11 PM
Sep 2012

There are very few states, I believe, that are still open to petition or file onto the ballot as an independent presidential candidate.

Now, I suppose Gary Johnson could resign as the Libertarian Party's presidential nominee and then Ron Paul could be appointed to the vacancy ... but that is about the only way I think Paul could be on the ballot in very many states. And who thinks Gary Johnson would do such a thing after all he has gone through this year?

Of course, Paul could endorse Johnson, but that would put a severe handicap on this son's future prospects in the Repuglican Party.

More likely Ron Paul is going to endorse Rmoney ... or announce he is leaving the country to live in retirement in the libertarian paradise of Somalia.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
9. Is there anywhere he could qualify for the ballot this close to the election?
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:17 PM
Sep 2012

Between application dates and sore loser rules that prevent running independent after losing a primary, there probably aren't many places where he's not completely SOL.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
10. I don't think so. But he could decide he'd rather be with
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:20 PM
Sep 2012

the Libertarian Party as opposed to being the GOPs perennial red headed step child. Or, his FANaticS could just be wishful thinking.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
11. Would they tolerate his social conservatism?
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:29 PM
Sep 2012

I know it's a bro-centric movement, so maybe his opinions on women clashing with their overall platform isn't the big deal one would otherwise suspect.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
12. I think they probably would.I think he's had many
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:32 PM
Sep 2012

dyed in the wool Paulites begging him to cross over to the Libertarian party for a long time now.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
42. More than a few libertarians are anti-choice like him.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 10:51 AM
Sep 2012

Their logic is that EVERYONE gets a voice, even the clump of cells!

Care Acutely

(1,370 posts)
15. It's my birthday,
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:42 PM
Sep 2012

and nothing would make me laugh harder and fill me with more birthday joy.


LET IT BE SO, RON.


I can see it happening, easily. Ron must know that R&R are going exactly nowhere. He hates them, so that's a bonus. He can rake in some good campaign bucks, he gets more attention and he gets to run around the country sputtering his hateful philosophy of selfishness and greed. All win for Paul, plus he gets to enjoy watching his clueless wasteoid groupies fawning all over him, feeding his ego, for just a little longer. What's to lose?

Care Acutely

(1,370 posts)
30. Thanks :-)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 08:22 PM
Sep 2012
Today has been pretty awesome. A sweet convention kickoff and I got to watch TK stomp Romney's ass. All good stuff.

Cheers!

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
18. He'll have to run on the Ron Paul party ticket
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:47 PM
Sep 2012

Gary Johnson and Virgil Goode already have their runs - and Virginia approved putting Goode on the fall ballot today.

(D-lister is Virgil Goode, not Virgil Greene )

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
21. He might as well have his son on with him then...
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:49 PM
Sep 2012

because if he runs as an independent, that will be the end of his son's tenure in the republican party.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
26. Far more likely its a ploy to pull attention away from our convention.
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 07:03 PM
Sep 2012

Still, it would be an interesting development if true.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
28. He'll probably just announce he's endorsing Mittens...
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 07:07 PM
Sep 2012

...and thus draw some attention away from the DNC.



ecstatic

(32,720 posts)
34. Ron Paul has defenders on DU
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 12:19 AM
Sep 2012

Surprisingly. Apparently, one correct stance makes up for everything else he's wrong about. Paul jumping in the race would not necessarily help. Now Palin on the other hand...

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
35. Mitt Romney needs to thank God for Rand Paul
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 12:21 AM
Sep 2012

Otherwise, Ron would run, and take 10% of the Republican and a lot of the right leaning independents with him.

FSogol

(45,504 posts)
37. Way too late to get on the ballot. He'll announce a new 800 number where his legion of idiots can
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 07:13 AM
Sep 2012

send cash. Paul will convert the cash to gold and bury it in his back yard. Sadly not one is burying his stupid economic "theories."

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
39. Still the same vague, noncommittal bullshit he's always done...
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 10:31 AM
Sep 2012

Ron Paul to Jay Leno: 'I'll keep plugging along' in 2012 election

http://entertainment.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/05/13679399-ron-paul-to-jay-leno-ill-keep-plugging-along-in-2012-election?lite

Paul is just going to keep stringing his fanatics along, since they obviously aren't ever going to wake the hell up...

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
43. Wrong Pall -
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 10:56 AM
Sep 2012

"BOFF PARTYS R DUH SAME!!" . . . and to some, that means throwing your weight behind an anti-choice, racist, xenophobic, states-rights career politician whose economics are far to the right of even Mitt Romney. THAT makes perfect sense

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