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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 05:22 PM Nov 2019

GOP senator: Republicans don't have votes to dismiss impeachment articles

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/470301-gop-senator-republicans-dont-have-votes-to-dismiss-impeachment-articles

BY ALEXANDER BOLTON - 11/13/19 01:53 PM EST

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), an adviser to Senate Republican leadership, says there are not enough votes in the Senate to immediately dismiss any articles of impeachment passed by the House against President Trump.

Republicans have discussed the possibility of quickly dismissing charges against Trump, which would just require 51 votes. But Cornyn said that would be a difficult hurdle for the GOP, which holds 53 seats in the Senate.

“There’s some people talking about trying to stop the bill, dismiss charges basically as soon as they get over here. I think that’s not going to happen. That would require 51 votes,” Cornyn told reporters Wednesday.

“I think it would be hard to find 51 votes to cut the case off before the evidence is presented,” he added.

Cornyn also said it would be better to have a trial in the Senate if the House impeaches Trump.

The veteran GOP senator said “the better course would be to let each side have their say and then have the Senate vote and see if they can meet the two-thirds threshold” to convict the president on impeachment articles.

Convicting Trump would require 67 votes in the Senate or a two-thirds majority of those present, something that would require the votes of as many as 20 GOP senators.

Cornyn said it’s very unlikely that enough Republicans will vote to remove Trump from office. But he said GOP colleagues will want the issue vetted on the Senate floor with a trial.

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GOP senator: Republicans don't have votes to dismiss impeachment articles (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Nov 2019 OP
rut roh CatWoman Nov 2019 #1
A handful of GOP Senators would insist on a trial, but acquittal is all but guaranteed. Garrett78 Nov 2019 #6
This could be the start klook Nov 2019 #2
Why would the Senate not want to proceed with a trial? gratuitous Nov 2019 #3
Yeah, it's much better for them if they hold a brief trial and then acquit. Garrett78 Nov 2019 #5
"or a two-thirds majority of those present" ecstatic Nov 2019 #4
Yes. NYC Liberal Nov 2019 #8
how the fuck can 51 votes DISMISS it immediately? maxsolomon Nov 2019 #7

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
6. A handful of GOP Senators would insist on a trial, but acquittal is all but guaranteed.
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 07:35 PM
Nov 2019

An immediate dismissal would be a terrible look for them anyway. A brief trial, followed by an acquittal by majority, is what's most likely.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. Why would the Senate not want to proceed with a trial?
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 06:44 PM
Nov 2019

Dismissing the articles of impeachment out of hand would be a very bad look for the Senate, in my opinion. I have little doubt they'd try to explain it away and they'd for sure get a sympathetic hearing on Fox. But I think the Democrats could make the case pretty easily that the Senate Republicans are so frightened of the impeachment of their standard bearer that they don't even want to hear the evidence against him. The facts on the ground will back up the Democrats, and even chucktodd might have to say it looks like the Republicans are cutting and running from their constitutional duty.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
5. Yeah, it's much better for them if they hold a brief trial and then acquit.
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 07:31 PM
Nov 2019

And that's what'll happen in all likelihood.

ecstatic

(32,727 posts)
4. "or a two-thirds majority of those present"
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 06:46 PM
Nov 2019

Can anyone clarify? If only 70 Senators show up to vote that day, would that mean that only 47 votes are needed to impeach?

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