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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:04 AM Nov 2019

Those with steady jobs cannot afford rent.

People who can’t afford rent are living in their cars, and cities aren’t sure what to do about them

An increase in the number of the “vehicular homeless” gives governments a dilemma: Should they provide safe spaces for car living or enact policies to discourage the practice? While they ponder, faith groups have stepped in.

ALT LAKE CITY — When Micki Denis first moved to Seattle, she tried to find a studio apartment she could afford — nothing fancy, just a warm room for sleeping and a small kitchen so she could have her son over for dinner. Instead, the mother of five and grandmother of 14 is sleeping in her car, a 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser.

She is not alone. Each night, Denis shares a parking lot outside a Methodist church with as many as 50 cars, vans and trucks, some housing entire families. In the morning, kids spill out and go into the church to get ready for school.

But Denis — the 64-year-old cousin of U.S. Senator Marco Rubio and sister of a Nevada state senator — wakes up each day in disbelief that this is her life now.

She lived in nice homes for decades, until her divorce in 2003. From 2005-07, she served a mission in Florida and El Salvador for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Just last summer, she traveled around Europe.

Coming from Utah, where despite rising rental costs Denis could live on a variety of part-time jobs — like being an interpreter for a school district and a cafeteria cashier at her church’s Salt Lake Temple — she was shocked by the Seattle-area housing market.

She found a part-time job to supplement a pension and Social Security, but it’s not enough. “I thought I could get something for about $700, a nice studio, but I can’t. I don’t know what’s going on here,” Denis said.

What’s going on is that low- to moderate-income Americans who don’t own their own homes are being hammered by skyrocketing rents, stagnant wages and a shortage of affordable housing. Applicants for subsidized housing face years on a waiting list. Those in need of emergency shelter find beds are often full while people sleep in the streets.

No state has an adequate supply of affordable rental housing, according to the National Low Income Housing Coalition, which recently released a report that examined the increasing gap between wages and rent.

https://www.deseret.com/indepth/2019/10/19/20897026/living-in-car-seattle-homeless

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Those with steady jobs cannot afford rent. (Original Post) mfcorey1 Nov 2019 OP
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Nov 2019 #1
The magic of unfettered capitalism at work. Blues Heron Nov 2019 #2
The last I heard... Newest Reality Nov 2019 #3
I watch a lot of those full time camper van vlogs Farmer-Rick Nov 2019 #4
"Trailer parks" are getting scarce...nt Wounded Bear Nov 2019 #6
two within 5 miles of me are gone. Happy Hoosier Nov 2019 #8
Not a good strategy madville Nov 2019 #5
How does someone not get on-line and do an apartment search before moving mnhtnbb Nov 2019 #7
Good thing we moved to housing vouchers meadowlander Nov 2019 #9
Cities wondering if they should provide parking lots or force them lunatica Nov 2019 #10

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
3. The last I heard...
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:50 AM
Nov 2019

Ben Carson, the lobotomized brain surgeon, doesn't think this is HUD's responsibility. So, housing and urban development don't match up with the problem in his brain fog.

It does create a vulnerable band of folks for Fascists to create a scapegoat du jour as Trump has been signaling. I think it always works that way with tin pot dictators. They just keep adding to their demonization list.

Farmer-Rick

(10,212 posts)
4. I watch a lot of those full time camper van vlogs
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 09:51 AM
Nov 2019

Many claim they are doing it because of the "freedom" to be on the road. But most of them are over 50 and when they run down their expenses, you realize that they couldn't afford a home or rent.

Some of them quit moving and buy a mobile home to stay put in a park. But from what I hear, even those permenant mobile home parks are getting quite pricey.

Happy Hoosier

(7,393 posts)
8. two within 5 miles of me are gone.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:24 AM
Nov 2019

Not to defend them, though. They were squalid, often violent, and centers of the meth trade.

madville

(7,412 posts)
5. Not a good strategy
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:01 AM
Nov 2019

Moving to one of the highest priced real estate markets in the country is not a good strategy on a small fixed retirement income. People do the reverse usually, they move out to a lower cost of living area to reduce overhead.

I’ve had roommates for most of the last 25 years. A decent one bedroom apartment in my area is about $1000 a month. A nice two bedroom, two bath is $1100-1200. Just makes sense for single people to share housing, people have been doing that forever.

mnhtnbb

(31,405 posts)
7. How does someone not get on-line and do an apartment search before moving
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 11:56 AM
Nov 2019

someplace where she can't afford the rent?

Yes, I agree affordable housing is a huge problem in many cities. But this woman was nuts to move there before she investigated the apartment rental market.

meadowlander

(4,406 posts)
9. Good thing we moved to housing vouchers
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:32 AM
Nov 2019

Instead of just building and managing affordable housing. Because this is clearly a problem that the free market was always going to be able to solve.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
10. Cities wondering if they should provide parking lots or force them
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 03:23 AM
Nov 2019

to move are being stupidly shortsighted.

Get them housing. Control rents so people can afford apartments. What the Fuck! If people have jobs why the hell would you try to get rid of them because they’re homeless? Why not treat tax paying citizens like the asset they are to the cities they work in?

Jesus! At least allow them to park and provide places they can go to the bathroom! Why the fuck are they even thinking of penalizing people?!

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