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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,170 posts) Tue Nov 19, 2019, 03:58 PM Nov 2019

China signs defence agreement with South Korea as US angers Seoul with demand for $5bn troop payment

The defence ministers of South Korea and China have agreed to develop their security ties to ensure stability in north-east Asia, the latest indication that Washington’s long-standing alliances in the region are fraying.

On the sidelines of regional security talks in Bangkok on Sunday, Jeong Kyeong-doo, the South Korean minister of defence, and his Chinese counterpart, Wei Fenghe, agreed to set up more military hotlines and to push ahead with a visit by Mr Jeong to China next year to “foster bilateral exchanges and cooperation in defence”, South Korea’s defence ministry said.

Seoul’s announcement coincided with growing resentment at the $5 billion (£3.9bn) annual fee that Washington is demanding to keep 28,500 US troops in South Korea.

That figure is a sharp increase from the $923 million that Seoul paid this year, which was an 8 per cent increase on the previous year.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/18/china-signs-defence-agreement-south-korea-us-angers-seoul-demand/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw

So (p)Resident Shit for Brains alienates another ally. Putin must be so happy.

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China signs defence agreement with South Korea as US angers Seoul with demand for $5bn troop payment (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2019 OP

Wherever the US cedes leadership Johnny2X2X Nov 2019 #1

If people had Newest Reality Nov 2019 #2

Shure as hell sucks when our Wellstone ruled Nov 2019 #3

South Korea has just fell under the Sino-Russian sphere of influence. roamer65 Nov 2019 #4

Exactly. Cheetolini thinks he's saving taxpayer dollars. Ilsa Nov 2019 #9

in 20 years China's going to own that peninsula 0rganism Nov 2019 #5

Trump is thinking, "I don't care. I'll be Ilsa Nov 2019 #10

i hope his bro Vlad finds a way to keep Trump's head alive in a jar so he has to watch it happen 0rganism Nov 2019 #12

SK will also start a nuclear weapons program. roamer65 Nov 2019 #6

Thanks Trumpers and Dummie-#45. Next, China puts pressure on Japan. Another NCjack Nov 2019 #7

Japan will remilitarize and develop nukes. roamer65 Nov 2019 #11

Holy shit. ismnotwasm Nov 2019 #8

What's the opposite of TPP? moondust Nov 2019 #13

PPT... lame54 Nov 2019 #14

k moondust Nov 2019 #16

Unsettling news. OhNo-Really Nov 2019 #15

Johnny2X2X

(19,110 posts)

1. Wherever the US cedes leadership

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 04:00 PM

Nov 2019

China or Russia steps forward.

We're giving away our influence globally with every move Trump makes.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)

2. If people had

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 04:07 PM

Nov 2019

If people had more general knowledge about what China is doing with AI and total surveillance, (and how that is being spread to other countries allied with them economically and otherwise) Ii would be obvious that China is far more significant as a competing block against the US.

The capacity for the fast-paced technological developments taking place is fomenting a new, digital cold war with China itself and China, in that respect and others, is a formidable opponent, so we may be concerned about Russia, (which is essentially a corrupt Oligarchy) but they may have their reasons for playing the game this way. Either way, we are at risk.

At this rate, Trump is also giving the Chinese government what they want and my estimate is that it is far more dangerous for the USA with long-term, negative implications. So, just add the red to the formula as far as our resident traitor is concerned.

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)

3. Shure as hell sucks when our

Reply to Newest Reality (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 04:50 PM

Nov 2019

Nations Rethug Leadership screws it's own people. We are now the number two Nation on the world influence Stage.

Having a Relative Teaching in Vietnam,we get a on the ground idea as to just what is going on in South East Asia.

Folks,they are eating our lunch and making us pay for it.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)

4. South Korea has just fell under the Sino-Russian sphere of influence.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 04:57 PM

Nov 2019

US troops will be gone in a year or two and SK will be pushing for SCO membership.

Ilsa

(61,697 posts)

9. Exactly. Cheetolini thinks he's saving taxpayer dollars.

Reply to roamer65 (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 05:23 PM

Nov 2019

But he's giving away our relationship with SK and our influence in Asia.

0rganism

(23,967 posts)

5. in 20 years China's going to own that peninsula

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 04:58 PM

Nov 2019

good news for SK: i'm sure the Chinese prefer their future real estate to be as undamaged as possible (from their point of view, cf Hong Kong)

well, there goes 75 years of careful and painstaking US foreign policy down the shitter

Ilsa

(61,697 posts)

10. Trump is thinking, "I don't care. I'll be

Reply to 0rganism (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 05:25 PM

Nov 2019

dead then, so it won't be a problem for me. Ivanka will have to fix it."

0rganism

(23,967 posts)

12. i hope his bro Vlad finds a way to keep Trump's head alive in a jar so he has to watch it happen

Reply to Ilsa (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 05:47 PM

Nov 2019

Trump: i'll be dead then
Putin (sets Trump's headjar down in front of a TV): not so fast, my friend, you've still got 20000 hours of MSNBC to marathon

roamer65

(36,747 posts)

6. SK will also start a nuclear weapons program.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 05:06 PM

Nov 2019

NCjack

(10,279 posts)

7. Thanks Trumpers and Dummie-#45. Next, China puts pressure on Japan. Another

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 05:10 PM

Nov 2019

Trumpian step towards world war.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)

11. Japan will remilitarize and develop nukes.

Reply to NCjack (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 05:28 PM

Nov 2019

I remember reading once that estimates to a workable Japanese thermonuclear device were about 2-3 months.

...and knowing the Japanese attention to detail, the device WILL work.