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Va Lefty

(6,252 posts) Tue Nov 19, 2019, 05:17 PM Nov 2019

A tale of 2 NFL QBs

"Just from a look at their career numbers, it makes no sense.

Kaepernick’s are better: the 88.9 passer rating, 58 percent completion rate, 72 TDs, 30 INTs in 58 starts.

Vick’s numbers: the 80.4 passer rating, 56.2 percent completion rate, 133 TDs, 88 INTs in 115 starts.

So, you welcome Vick back after the dogfighting ring, the time in prison.

And you treat Kaepernick like the criminal for kneeling.

I’m not taking into account here that Kaepernick’s crime is making you think of racial injustice, which the NFL, its rich white owners, rich white TV broadcast partners, would rather not think about themselves, as their sponsors hawk their beer, pizza and new cars at you in between offensive possessions.

At least we know where they’re drawing the line."

https://augustafreepress.com/a-tale-of-two-qbs-colin-kaepernick-and-michael-vick/

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A tale of 2 NFL QBs (Original Post) Va Lefty Nov 2019 OP

I think there's pressure from the Pentagon Auggie Nov 2019 #1

Could be. I think the NFL is crapping themselves worrying what the moron-in-chief would say Va Lefty Nov 2019 #3

If Colin's 49'ers had won that Superbowl, I wouldn't be typing this right now? Brainfodder Nov 2019 #2

That's far from a perfect, or even apt, comparison. Captain Stern Nov 2019 #4

It's true RhodeIslandOne Nov 2019 #5

Far as I'm concerned, Vick can rot in hell MichMan Nov 2019 #6

Same here. cwydro Nov 2019 #7

The NFL is a mess right now. The AFC is completely non-competitive Johonny Nov 2019 #8

Well, Kaepernick by not going back into the NFL by taking the settlement money... madinmaryland Nov 2019 #9

Isn't often that a major league athlete is fired for his political stance. BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #10

Auggie

(31,184 posts)

1. I think there's pressure from the Pentagon

Reply to Va Lefty (Original post)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 05:23 PM

Nov 2019

The Department of Defense spends a ton of money waving the flag at NFL venues.

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)

3. Could be. I think the NFL is crapping themselves worrying what the moron-in-chief would say

Reply to Auggie (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 05:30 PM

Nov 2019

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)

2. If Colin's 49'ers had won that Superbowl, I wouldn't be typing this right now?

Reply to Va Lefty (Original post)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 05:26 PM

Nov 2019

It's petty BS .

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)

4. That's far from a perfect, or even apt, comparison.

Reply to Va Lefty (Original post)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 06:10 PM

Nov 2019

The author is comparing Vick's career stats to Kaepernick's career stats...rather than comparing Vick's pre-ban (the ban being that he was in prison) stats to Kaepernick's. The author is also completely disregarding rushing stats. Vick rushed for over 1000 yards the year before he went to prison.

I have no doubt NFL teams have intentionally stayed away from Kaepernick, even though Kaepernick is good enough to be on an NFL roster.

However, the difference between Vick and Kaepernick is that Vick was good enough to be a starting QB, and a really good one, before he was imprisoned. It wasn't unreasonable for the Eagles to think that what he might contribute on the field would be worth any bad publicity they might receive from signing him.

Kaepernick, on the other hand, was a backup QB when he was released. I don't think it's unreasonable that a team would choose to avoid the distracting publicity that signing him would bring, when the only benefit would be to have a better backup QB than they already have.

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)

5. It's true

Reply to Captain Stern (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 06:16 PM

Nov 2019

Mike Vick wasn’t out there for his arm.

That said, it’s ridiculous no one is taking a shot at Kap, unless he’s still making insane money demands. Most QBs in this league are fucking awful.

MichMan

(11,961 posts)

6. Far as I'm concerned, Vick can rot in hell

Reply to Va Lefty (Original post)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 06:21 PM

Nov 2019

Does that make you feel better ?

cwydro

(51,308 posts)

7. Same here.

Reply to MichMan (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:19 PM

Nov 2019

And Kaepernick saying the orange shitstain and Hillary are the same leaves him in the same boat imo. YMMV.

Johonny

(20,881 posts)

8. The NFL is a mess right now. The AFC is completely non-competitive

Reply to Va Lefty (Original post)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:27 PM

Nov 2019

The old guard that made the NFL has all passed away. It's mostly owned by billionaires now that own teams for vanity projects. Most of them care about winning less than they care about the resell value of the team. It shows in the product on the field which is frankly horrid most of the time. Particularly in the AFC which really has a handful of teams and the rest if fodder. Given that, it's no surpise none of this era of ownership wants to take on Kapernick. They're not there to win. They're there to show off their wealth.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)

9. Well, Kaepernick by not going back into the NFL by taking the settlement money...

Reply to Va Lefty (Original post)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:50 PM

Nov 2019

May well have his health intact, while still having a large sum of money. Plus he is still marketable.

BuffaloJackalope

(818 posts)

10. Isn't often that a major league athlete is fired for his political stance.

Reply to Va Lefty (Original post)

Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:55 PM

Nov 2019

The fact that it's been going on 3 yrs should make it a scandal.

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