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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAre any pundits on MSNBC or CNN reporting on the recently released state dept. docs (due to FOIA)?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,732 posts)triron
(22,006 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,732 posts)Anyhow, there are more documents coming, so they will be reported on sequentially. I hope these are like the Nixon tapes.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)on Rachel after they were released, I believe, during her time slot. Then O'Donnell, then Brian Williams. They were huge with only a few of 100,000 pages mined and are being pored over.
triron
(22,006 posts)Brian Williams. I was really wondering about this weekend.
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)that is included with the enormous amount of conversation about the hearings. There's so much there there that it's difficult it cover it all. Meanwhile, the analysts are reading the new documentation so they can report more completely about it.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)messages and comparisons to Republicans are bad for my health.
You made me wonder, though, and I just googled state department documents and interestingly found no new revelations from them over the last day.
Even more unwilling to go look now though since my experience is that would leave more time open for badmouthing and trying to undermining confidence in Democrats.
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)So Ali, Brian Williams and Joy Reid are the only ones on MSNBC who've been on air since then.
Look for them to get plenty of coverage Monday. They may bring Pompeo down, even before 45.
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)if these docs take down the support network just prior to removing the head honcho so that he has no one there to protect him from accountability.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)but I'm always happy to see some consequence at least for these bastards. And of course disruption may slow them down, noting that Russia and China are not disrupted and counting on making the most of ours. Pompeo's effectively a traitor enabling Russia, but as ex- CIA director he does have expertise.
Fareed Zakaria was on, but his is a quality show. He usually starts with U.S. politics these days but not the typical repetitive groupthink coverage. He focused on the attempted Ukraine framing originating as a Russian operation, Pompeo's abuse of power for his own political purposes
Also the policy "Trump's" pursuing of unilaterism and isolationism, rejection of rule-based world order, which he thinks is a neglected, much more important story in its consequences.
triron
(22,006 posts)Makes me wonder. maybe they are keeping a lot under wraps for now.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)not being a government employee, I'd call Pelosi's or Schiff's office, not the NYT or FBI.
Beyond doubt they knew about Russia's Ukraine-Biden plot and Repubs involved long before it blew up in their faces. Actually, much of it was reported by media last winter but didn't, just sat there like IUDs the nation noted but drove on past. But not them, and no doubt a lot coming out now was known or strongly expected by them, like Nunes's perambulations.
Schiff and company are doing an ethics investigation of what looks like a complete betrayal of all ethics and misuse of position by Nunes, but apparently that would be the appropriate first step for his Democratic peers in the senate in any situation. Gee, if only they had video in case prosecutors needed some.
In any case, I'm wondering if they'll let the media and court of public opinion tend to some of the lesser characters who've committed big crimes while they focus on Trump. Until the Justice Department and any other jurisdictions involved finish investigating and indict, of course.
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)called "interventionism" in world affairs (unless it involved invading Latin American countries, evidently) and which most people today just regard as engaging the rest of the world, instead of ignoring it.The old Taft Repugs bitterly opposed any effort on FDR's part to aid the Allies fighting Germany, until Pearl Harbor made that stance impossible.
45's peculiar twist is that he's most opposed to doing *anything* to thwart Russia. TR's "walk softly and carry a big stick" has, in his mind, warped into "sound off your big bazzoo and swing a phony stick you won't bother to use if you're sedated with enough flattery", which doesn't seem to be working very well as an (ostensible) foreign policy. It's actually much worse than a simple regression to the historic norm for Repugs would be; Zakaria's absolutely right about that.