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Basically the impeachment hearings had no effect. Half the country still doesn't care that Trump committed high crimes and betrayed America. 50% is not enough to get Republicans to turn on Trump in the Senate.
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)People who identify as Republicans will never support impeachment. Those who are Democrats will always support impeachment. None of that is changing.
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)They have sold their souls to the devil.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)That number won't move. What will move is our asses, to the polls. The hearings definitely cranked up my intensity, and I expect that's true for millions of voters. There are nearly twice as many Democrats as Deplorables, so intensity benefits us.
SunSeeker
(51,564 posts)It's not like there are two different polar opinions about the same facts. 36% are completely unmoored from reality and don't know the facts, thanks to Fox News.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Nevertheless, Republicans does see major defeats in the 2020 elections. More and more Republicans are coming out against shithole. From readings, Nixon's so called polling for impeachment was very low.
Republican numbers are dwindling.
If it were a Democratic President with those numbers, CNN and every news outlet would be shouting from the rooftop of the demise of his or her presidency.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)all seen that democratic presidents are held to a much higher standard than gop ones. More is expected from democratic presidents. The gop scrapes the bottom of the barrel, then backs them 100% as long as the tax cuts for their wealthy owners are kept in place. Imagine a democratic contender who had a former escort/nude model wife, a history of sexual escapades, 3 marriages, questionable relationship with his daughter, 6 bankruptcies, history of screwing people out of hard earned money, in debt up to his neck with Russia. Imagine!! Much more is expected from democratic presidential hopefuls. The gop settles for any moron that can get votes from other morons. tRump was PERFECT. Dumb as a rock, no morals, no class, no intelligence. All bluff and bluster.
ritapria
(1,812 posts)The hearings didn't change anyone's mind ..I'm not surprised ..The Republicans and Republican- leaning Independents who approve of Trump's performance in Office will never change their minds . They just don't give a shit that he's a criminal .That's the bottom line
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)This helps us get our side to the polls. Same for their side, but they are much smaller than our side.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)It's for when the President commits crimes, not to remove someone you don't like.
That said, MFer45 is a criminal.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)REALLY like to see his approval under 43. Read once that the magic # for him was 45 to win reelection.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Why does the FCC allow an entertainment channel to call itself a news organization?
And since when are Soviet-inspired conspiracy theories considered entertainment?
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)Joe941
(2,848 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)probably really hurt any chance at breaking through the Fox News bubble of Alternative Facts - Smith, Chris Wallace and Andrew Napolitano together at least added up to some sane, intelligent conservative voices. With Smith gone, it's basically Wallace because a "legal analyst" like Napolitano can be sidelined or not invited on to other shows.
AdamGG
(1,292 posts)ScratchCat
(1,990 posts)Trump's misdeeds do not affect the average Republican and, at the end of the day, what did he do? Something that would harm the election chances of a Democrat. Is there any wonder they aren't up in arm's?
Further, the average "independent" voter who simply "leans" one way or the other just says, "The Republicans acted crazy about Obama, and now the Democrats are just doing the same thing with the other party's President" because "bothsiderism" is easier than taking time an using your brain.
I've said before - an impeachment inquiry should have begun the day after Michael Cohen testified in open court that Donald Trump committed felony campaign finance fraud(at minimum).
Bromwell
(123 posts)blogslut
(38,001 posts)Link to tweet
John Harwood
@JohnJHarwood
about public opinion on Trump never moving lol nothing matters, heres new CNN poll:
impeach/remove now
50% yes, 43% no
impeach/remove, late April
37% yes, 59% no
lastlib
(23,239 posts)And how do we then claim we have the best educational system in the world? (OTOH, maybe it IS the best-- for repuglikins..... --- --- )
FakeNoose
(32,641 posts)... and/or listening to hate radio.
CrispyQ
(36,470 posts)I've read that some schools don't even teach government or civics anymore. WTF?
As people do better, they start voting like Republicans - unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing.
Karl Rove
At the same time, the right funded think tanks to craft their message & bought up radio stations to broadcast it. Ignoring hate radio for almost 40 years is the biggest mistake the dems made & continue to make.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)I hope thats how its done. Otherwise, we are getting very distorted view with largest states such as CA and NY skewing the results.
James48
(4,436 posts)When a Dem is President ( if that can ever be allowed by the Russians again)
That the bar is now being set, You can ask foreign governments for help in ruining your political rival. You can break laws with impunity. You can shrug off murders like Kashogi.
It
Doesnt
Matter.
blakstoneranger
(333 posts)The republicans are not turning on trump even if the polls showed 80% for impeach/remove--why, because trump has his own polls that show just the opposite, the republicans don't care what the people want because they will do what they want anyway, they always have. most americans didn't want war in iraq, the repukes didn't care, republicans just want your vote and that's it. vote for me then get out of my way I can do what I want. So it doesn't matter what the public wants the republicans are NOT going to vote for impeachment and they are NOT going to remove trump. What they will do is keep bullshting us with this ukraine-biden investigation so trump will have something negative to campaign on. WE NEED TO STOP WORRYING ABOUT PUBLIC OPINION, TRUMP BROKE THE LAW, HE SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CRIMINAL!!!
ancianita
(36,060 posts)donkeypoofed
(2,187 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,619 posts)The hearings DID have an effect, and the exposure of further evidence and testimony can only be a good thing. Perhaps the timing of a floor vote on articles needs to be adjusted...
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)this is extremely depressing.
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)But Dems still need to do a better job with media strategy. They need to sway hearts and minds with the truth.
Stuart G
(38,428 posts)"56% say Trump's pressure on Ukraine was about benefiting himself politically"
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A certain amount doesn't know, and does not care.
Tennessee Hillbilly
(587 posts)His support can't go up. And as he continues to do more asinine abusive things, his support will keep dropping.
EricaGriswoldAuthor
(68 posts)That's about half of the population of one high school.
Out of a country that has a population of 329,968,629.