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Demovictory9

(32,457 posts)
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 04:04 PM Nov 2019

No, the new CNN poll is not good news for Donald Trump on impeachment

No, the new CNN poll is not good news for Donald Trump on impeachment

A new CNN poll shows that half the country believes that President Donald Trump should be not only impeached by the House, but also removed from office by the Senate.

That result is being spun in some corners of the internet as great news for Trump, because that 50% number is unchanged from a CNN poll in mid-October, the conclusion being that the last 10 days of public impeachment hearings have not convinced more of the public that the President needs to go.


Except that we are missing the forest for the trees here: A majority of the country believes the current President of the United States should be impeached and removed from office!

A quick check of history shows how strange that is.


The peak of support for the impeachment and removal of then-President Bill Clinton in 1998 was 29% in CNN polling. That's the highest that number ever went, despite the fact that the House Republican majority did vote to impeach late that year!
Ditto impeachment sentiment for the two presidents between Clinton and Trump. In a 2006 CNN poll, 30% of the public wanted George W. Bush impeached and removed from office; in 2014, 33% said the same of Barack Obama. (Unlike Trump and Clinton, neither Bush nor Obama ever faced any sort of formal impeachment investigation or vote.)
What those historical numbers tell us is that for at least the last two decades, there is roughly 30% of the country that is ready to impeach a president (usually of the party to which they do not belong) at all times.




What makes the Trump number so remarkable, then, is that 20% more of the public is now convinced not only that he should be impeached but that he should be removed from office -- despite the fact that, unlike Clinton, Bush and Obama when those CNN polls were taken, Trump will face voters in a bid for a second term in less than a year's time.


Now, it is fair to say that Democrats -- if you gave them truth serum at the conclusion of last week's public impeachment hearings -- believed they had hit a home run, and that polling would reflect that. That polling so far hasn't changed all that much is worth noting.
So that point is right -- for now. But it's also worth noting that we are in the immediate aftermath of the hearings, and its findings may not have fully seeped into the public consciousness just yet. And more importantly, whether it's 50% or 51% or 55%, it's noteworthy that a majority of the public wants the President gone.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/26/politics/trump-cnn-impeachment-poll/index.html

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No, the new CNN poll is not good news for Donald Trump on impeachment (Original Post) Demovictory9 Nov 2019 OP
Exactly EarlG Nov 2019 #1
AND REMOVED!!!!!!!! BigmanPigman Nov 2019 #6
and this in spite of everything the RWNJs can throw at the public Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #8
Thank you for using logic!! nt USALiberal Nov 2019 #9
Ugh, MSNBC chyron right now: OliverQ Nov 2019 #2
Scared of the "L-Word" or just simply complicit Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2019 #3
Calm down, they just said it was the same as before the hearings nt USALiberal Nov 2019 #5
Yes, they did! BigmanPigman Nov 2019 #7
33% for Obama and 30% for W? hibbing Nov 2019 #4
61% of women want Trump removed. OliverQ Nov 2019 #10

EarlG

(21,949 posts)
1. Exactly
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 04:15 PM
Nov 2019

Before the hearings a majority of Americans wanted Trump impeached. After the hearings a majority of Americans still want Trump impeached. Republicans have failed to move the needle on impeachment. They failed to successfully defend Trump at the hearings.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212731088

BigmanPigman

(51,604 posts)
6. AND REMOVED!!!!!!!!
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 05:52 PM
Nov 2019

The majority wants impeachment AND removal from office. When I saw this on CNN earlier I was overjoyed about the removal part.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,348 posts)
8. and this in spite of everything the RWNJs can throw at the public
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 05:56 PM
Nov 2019

Even all of the 'mainstream' tv news tries to bothsides the issue at times.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
2. Ugh, MSNBC chyron right now:
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 04:17 PM
Nov 2019

"Voters not swayed by impeachment hearings in new polls."

Every single institution seems be on Trump's side these days.

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
4. 33% for Obama and 30% for W?
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 05:45 PM
Nov 2019

Must have been that economic anxiety we heard so much about, oh wait, W crashed the economy. I just can't put my finger on what other reasons for such a large number. Ugh...I love this country dearly, but sometimes I just shake my head in shame.


Peace

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
10. 61% of women want Trump removed.
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 06:06 PM
Nov 2019

Anyone know what percent of women he got in 2016? Women are an enormous voting block and a huge chunk of the suburban backlash against Republicans.

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