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brooklynite

(94,597 posts)
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 11:17 PM Nov 2019

Will the last person to leave Northgate Mall turn out the lights?

Crosscut

If you’ve lived in Seattle for any period of time, you’ll know I am in the Northgate Mall food court. What you may not know is that Northgate — the nation’s very first mall — is now one of the country’s latest ghost malls. In a trend that reflects shifting retail patterns across the globe, the mall is being “redeveloped,” as brick-and-mortar stores close and online sales surge.

As of Monday, the landlord had turned off the heat in the food court, where Piroshky, Piroshky employees appear to be warming themselves by standing close to the baked meat pies.

Northgate opened in 1950, on a 60-acre plot, and the ribbon-cutting was such a big deal to Seattle that television stations interrupted regular programming to show it. Then newspapers described Northgate as a “miracle mile,” with the $3 million state-of-the-art Bon Marche department store as centerpiece. Back then Northgate wasn’t even covered — it was more like University Village.

Today, America’s first mall is mostly deserted, with all but a few dozen stores closed. I write this in the food court, a place I discovered a few years ago as an ideal setting to work. I’m at my favorite table, which is just far enough away from the automatic doors to avoid a breeze, but not too close to Sarku Japan, which would make me smell like teriyaki. But these days there isn’t a lot of meat on the grill at Sarku, and those automatic doors hardly ever slide open, either.




The times, they are a'chaingin...
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Will the last person to leave Northgate Mall turn out the lights? (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2019 OP
The mall fairly near me Freddie Nov 2019 #1
"Hope that isn't the start of a downhill trend." A HERETIC I AM Nov 2019 #7
It should be noted that this isn't another case of a "failing mall"... regnaD kciN Nov 2019 #2
There's still University Village, which I find much more "urban", design-wise brooklynite Nov 2019 #3
What's wrong with Teriyaki? Maru Kitteh Nov 2019 #4
Was my favorite mall when Sewa Nov 2019 #5
I hardly ever go to any kind of mall. Aquaria Nov 2019 #6
Malls are either dying or doing OK. it's hard to predict which will do what. MineralMan Nov 2019 #8

Freddie

(9,267 posts)
1. The mall fairly near me
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 11:26 PM
Nov 2019

Has managed to stay healthy. But one of the anchors, Sears, is closing. Hope that isn’t the start of a downhill trend. Once upon a time the mall had 4 department store anchors, soon to be 2 (Macy’s and JC Penney’s).

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
7. "Hope that isn't the start of a downhill trend."
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 03:54 AM
Nov 2019

Unfortunately, it is.

Those "anchor stores" are aptly named. When they start going under, and most of the famous names eventually will, the rest of the mall is doomed.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
2. It should be noted that this isn't another case of a "failing mall"...
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 11:45 PM
Nov 2019

Northgate has been performing very successfully for decades, and showed no signs of weakening. But, given the insane real-estate rates here in Seattle, the owners decided they could make more money by essentially redeveloping (i.e. demolishing) the whole thing and replacing it with an “urban village” of condo towers, offices, retail, and the offices/training facility for the upcoming NHL franchise.

It’s a real shame, because Northgate was the one sensible retail hub for North Seattle, and now their only options are downtown or malls way off in the suburbs (some of which ARE in economic trouble). But, hey, money talks!

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
4. What's wrong with Teriyaki?
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 12:35 AM
Nov 2019

JK.

I'm old enough to remember when malls were the devil because downtown was getting killed. Now downtown is thriving with all kinds of businesses from outfitters to artisans, cafes, specialty shops, etc.

Time good. Time bad. Time never ends . . . .


 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
6. I hardly ever go to any kind of mall.
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 03:06 AM
Nov 2019

One thing I liked about the old indoor malls was that I didn't bake to death in the heat of a Texas summer while trying to get to their stores, unlike the new "outdoor" malls that are so popular now. I was at La Cantera last summer to get my iPhone fixed, and nearly melted from the heat of getting from the parking lot to the Apple store. And I was parked close, relatively speaking. Then there's the problem of when it rains... Ugh. Why fricking bother?

All the indoor malls, though, are a nightmare traffic slog away from me, and that's maddening in its own way.

So I usually don't shop at malls indoor or outdoor. The inconveniences of the shopping experience here in San Antonio are why most of my non-grocery shopping happens online these days.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
8. Malls are either dying or doing OK. it's hard to predict which will do what.
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 11:10 AM
Nov 2019

There's a mall near me that is almost a ghost town. Five miles down the road, there's another one that is expanding. Then, there's the Mall of America, which I almost never visit, that is thriving.

In the Twin Cities of MN, some malls are doing fine. Some are just surviving. Others will shut down before long. We have a lot of indoor malls, because of the winter weather here. However, now that online shopping is so easy, the malls I've visited seem pretty empty of customers, compared to just 15 year ago when I moved here.

That's especially true this time of year, when there's ice and snow on the roads. Why go out, when everything you can imagine is available online? That seems to be what people are saying these days.

OTOH, I broke my favorite snow shovel a couple of days ago on some wet, heavy snow. More snow is coming tonight, so I have to go out and replace that snow shovel. Where? Well, I'm going to Home Depot, where I can count on a good selection of decent snow shovels. Sometimes, the big box store is the answer.

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