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Eugene

(61,900 posts)
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 11:59 PM Nov 2019

Smartphone 'addiction': Young people 'panicky' when denied mobiles

Source: BBC

Smartphone 'addiction': Young people 'panicky' when denied mobiles

By Sean Coughlan
BBC News family and education correspondent

29 November 2019

Almost a quarter of young people are so dependent on their smartphones that it becomes like an addiction, research by psychiatrists concludes.

The study, from King's College London, says such addictive behaviour means that people become "panicky" or "upset" if they are denied constant access.

The youngsters also cannot control the amount of time they spend on the phone.

The study warns that such addictions have "serious consequences" for mental health.

The research, published in BMC Psychiatry, analysed 41 studies involving 42,000 young people in an investigation into "problematic smartphone usage".

The study found 23% had behaviour that was consistent with an addiction - such as anxiety over not being able to use their phone, not being able to moderate the time spent and using mobiles so much that it was detrimental to other activities.

-snip-


Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/education-50593971
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Smartphone 'addiction': Young people 'panicky' when denied mobiles (Original Post) Eugene Nov 2019 OP
I'm surprised they just mention young folk Skittles Nov 2019 #1
I looked at the article and couldn't find terminology less subjective than "young folk" ProudLib72 Nov 2019 #3
Not Really.. Anyone Nov 2019 #6
You're just one person though. If you go to the other extreme, Quackers Nov 2019 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #72
I didn't realize you represent all geezers, Anyone Skittles Nov 2019 #9
LOL😆 dewsgirl Nov 2019 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #71
I may not be on it the entire time I take it with me Aquaria Nov 2019 #13
My phone can't be operated without a fingerprint or passcode. cwydro Nov 2019 #43
Um Aquaria Nov 2019 #60
What did people do before cell phones? Coventina Nov 2019 #46
Used beepers, or a call messaging service in concert.. MicaelS Nov 2019 #58
Had worried sick family members Aquaria Nov 2019 #61
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #73
The major reason I have a cell phone is for me to call when I am away from home csziggy Nov 2019 #14
The original reason I got a cell phone way back when Aquaria Nov 2019 #63
We live out of town, though town keeps moving closer csziggy Nov 2019 #65
Yeah, some people always forget Aquaria Nov 2019 #66
We went a while with a bad phone line csziggy Nov 2019 #69
That...doesn't make sense. Iggo Nov 2019 #34
Exactly Polybius Nov 2019 #59
Past few days was pondering an addiction to DU (& phone) thread. & I'm old. UTUSN Nov 2019 #2
you want I should kick your geezer ass and take your phone, UTUSN? Skittles Nov 2019 #4
Have wondered how anybody racks up 100K+ posts!1 UTUSN Nov 2019 #8
certainly not from my phone Skittles Nov 2019 #10
Good One, Skittles! ProfessorGAC Nov 2019 #31
omg yes since shortly before 9/11 Skittles Nov 2019 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #15
I hear you. CentralMass Nov 2019 #5
I've seen it at the gym Sewa Nov 2019 #11
Not surprising DFW Nov 2019 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #16
I don't even use a "smart" phone over here DFW Nov 2019 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #18
A while ago, I was walking on the street on the way to my Paris office DFW Nov 2019 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #20
I must be a young person then .... OnDoutside Nov 2019 #21
Same, and I haven't been one for decades! obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #23
Me too. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2019 #24
I rarely check mine unless I have a lot of downtime or I'm smirkymonkey Nov 2019 #22
my name is dweller Nov 2019 #25
oh wow, you just made me realize I *DO* panic when I lose my phone Skittles Nov 2019 #47
in my case dweller Nov 2019 #52
Not just millenials, I am a gen xer and lf I lose my phone dewsgirl Nov 2019 #26
It's funny tbh. roamer65 Nov 2019 #54
Yeah right, even 20 years ago.😉 Unfortunately, it is like another dewsgirl Nov 2019 #55
I don't worry about not having use of the phone if I can't find it. Aquaria Nov 2019 #64
It's not just young people ... PBC_Democrat Nov 2019 #28
Check out "The Feed" on Amazon Prime JesterCS Nov 2019 #29
Can I watch it on my phone? Iggo Nov 2019 #36
*SNORT* Skittles Nov 2019 #48
One of my friends is in her 60s and she doesn't use a computer...just her phone LeftInTX Nov 2019 #30
Addiction is serious and cell phone use fundamentally alters the brain. littlemissmartypants Nov 2019 #32
LOL😆 I had never seen the term FOMO before. Put me down dewsgirl Dec 2019 #70
Oh I want to say 'Ok Boomer" sooo bad.... ismnotwasm Nov 2019 #33
My Gen Xer ass agrees 100% obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #37
I try to remember to check my phone at least once a day Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #35
Well, I already knew I was no longer young. cwydro Nov 2019 #38
Not surprising customerserviceguy Nov 2019 #39
Warning you kids, being grounded now means loss of cellphone priveleges, better be good! Baclava Nov 2019 #40
No surprise to anyone who's observed people these days. Ron Obvious Nov 2019 #41
I am 62, and i am an addict. MicaelS Nov 2019 #44
see, I'm glad I got to experience life before PCs and cell phones Skittles Nov 2019 #49
Me too. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #51
I wanted an Altair so bad.... MicaelS Nov 2019 #57
I believe our experiences with both gives us a perspective that Blue_true Nov 2019 #67
There's a sizable segment of my students that reflect this. Coventina Nov 2019 #45
Once again blaming young people. Aristus Nov 2019 #50
Forgot mine at my parents in early November. Ms. Toad Nov 2019 #53
I'm afraid I'm a bit of an addict too. nolabear Nov 2019 #56
Are there any studies being done about neck problems YOHABLO Nov 2019 #62
I had to pull a guy back from stepping in front of a speeding NYC taxi one day. Blue_true Nov 2019 #68

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
1. I'm surprised they just mention young folk
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 12:21 AM
Nov 2019

it looks like this addiction crosses all age groups from what I can tell

I can easily live without my phone - heck, it's in airplane mode most of the time

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
3. I looked at the article and couldn't find terminology less subjective than "young folk"
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 12:27 AM
Nov 2019

Which sounds suspiciously like "Get off my lawn!"

But I agree that I could live without my phone. It's a convenience that becomes a nuisance most of the time...

 

Anyone

(15 posts)
6. Not Really..
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 01:38 AM
Nov 2019

Being part of the older "get off my lawn" generation, I can honestly say that I leave my smarty phone home when I go out to shop or eat. Sorry..

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
7. You're just one person though. If you go to the other extreme,
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 01:43 AM
Nov 2019

Could you imagine if Trump didn’t have his cell phone? Well, other than peace on earth.

Response to Quackers (Reply #7)

Response to Skittles (Reply #9)

 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
13. I may not be on it the entire time I take it with me
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 02:46 AM
Nov 2019

But it's only a senior moment that has me not bring my smartphone with me. Then again, I need it with me, between an elderly parent, a husband who works oddball hours in the middle of the night, and my own medical issues.

Consider yourself lucky that you don't have serious health issues that require you to keep a phone with you so EMTs can contact your spouse when they find you passed out on a sidewalk. And notice I didn't say "if," but "when." Because I did pass out once on a public street, and my husband was at the hospital almost as soon as I was checked in, thanks to the EMTs finding my phone and calling him. The husband would have F-R-E-A-K-E-D if he had come home and found my car there, but me nowhere to be found, no note, nothing.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
43. My phone can't be operated without a fingerprint or passcode.
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 07:09 PM
Nov 2019

And no way for anyone to know whom to contact even if it could be opened.

 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
60. Um
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 10:08 PM
Nov 2019

The EMT can put your finger to the button when you're passed out, to get the phone to open.

You do realize that, right?

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
58. Used beepers, or a call messaging service in concert..
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 10:45 PM
Nov 2019

With beepers.

We also used film cameras, pocket calculators and dayrunners.

And slam books, too.

 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
61. Had worried sick family members
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 10:28 PM
Nov 2019

That's what.

If someone in your family was injured and didn't have identifying information on his or her person, you were left in limbo with wondering what might have happened to them if they didn't come home at their usual time.

I was taking a walk the day I passed out. Had no ID on me, because I thought I was walking around the neighborhood, and would come right back home. I did have my phone, because it's my pedometer, and thank goodness I did. That's why the EMTs were able to contact my husband about where I was. They put my thumb on the button, my home screen opened up, and they went right to my contact list to see if they could find someone who knew me. My husband is the first entry in my contact list for a reason. You can put your emergency contact as the first contact in your list of contacts by putting an A and a space before "Honey" or whatever pet name you call your spouse. EMTs will zero right in on it.

Response to Coventina (Reply #46)

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
14. The major reason I have a cell phone is for me to call when I am away from home
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 03:26 AM
Nov 2019

In the past I have been stuck on the side of the road with a flat tire or out of gas - both times when I'd left my cell phone at home.

It is a tool for me to use when I need it.

On the other hand, I do not have social media on my phone and I consider those the addictive parts. My husband does have Facebook on his, and when his notification chime sounds, he HAS to pick up the phone to check it. I find it very annoying.

 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
63. The original reason I got a cell phone way back when
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 10:38 PM
Nov 2019

Was because I worked nights. And I'm talking 10:30 at night to 7 in the morning. If I got off work early or got sick and needed to come home, it was better to have a cell phone on me than not, in case I was in an accident or my car broke down on my way home. The last thing you want at oh-dark-thirty is to have a broken down car on the side of the road, and no way to call for help. The husband was adamant that I have a cell phone for that reason.

I haven't been without a cell phone since then. When the people working on a construction project severed the main landline trunk for our neighborhood and we had nothing BUT shitty phone service after it, we got rid of the landline and became cell phone only. Haven't looked back. Don't miss it at all.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
65. We live out of town, though town keeps moving closer
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 10:44 PM
Nov 2019

Twenty years ago when I got my first cell phone, my husband worked nights. Sometimes I'd drive in to see him at work and that cell phone was a life line just in case.

Ironically when I ran out of gas and another time when I had a flat, I'd left the cell at home. For the gas, a nice couple stopped and took me home so I could get the gas can and put some in the car. The flat, a deputy stopped and called AAA for me since he couldn't take the time to change it himself. Since then, I have been better at keeping the cell charged and remembering to take it with me.

My newest phone gets a signal here at home, but it is the first in twenty years to do so. I'll keep my landline, though since I have to have one with the DSL, plus I've had this number for forty years

 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
66. Yeah, some people always forget
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 11:10 PM
Nov 2019

That cell phones have legit uses, and aren't merely goof-off accessories. There are lots of things that a cell phone does nowadays that make it a great tool for all kinds of non-phone things.

It's my food journal, my pedometer, my glucose tracker and my high blood pressure tracker. Now instead of bringing file folders of crap to an MD's office, I can break out my phone, and show how I've been doing with sticking to a prescribed diet and exercise regime, and with keeping my other health issues under control.

I can order my med refills with my phone now, rather than having to call the pharmacy for them. If I'm out of refills, I can use my GP's app to request an update to my prescription.

When I'm at the supermarket and have that sinking feeling that I forgot to put something on my list, I can look up recipes and see that, yep, I forgot to include X ingredient, so I don't get all the way home and then find myself in a bind when I don't have that ingredient while I'm cooking. I use the digital coupons app at my supermarket to get all kinds of great deals that aren't available to paper coupon users. I invariably have a $3-5 off coupon just for shopping. Or I get free items through the digital coupons. One time, I walked out of the store with $30 worth of items, and I paid only $2 for them, thanks to all of my coupons and discounts.

As for the old-fashioned landline... I didn't want to get rid of the one we had, but the crappy repair job that the phone company did gave me no other choice. The static on the line after that was beyond unbearable. Nowadays, I find it impossible to justify the expense of having a landline, when my cell phone is always near. But I live in a city, and can cut that expense without paying too much of a price for it. If I lived in a more rural area, I'd have a landline because it's so much more reliable.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
69. We went a while with a bad phone line
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 11:37 PM
Nov 2019

As long as we had a drought, the line was fine. As soon as it rained, static and bad internet connections. I called the phone company every time it got bad but they would never check the line while it was raining. Eventually it got so bad, they finally admitted it needed replacing - and it was the fault of their sub-contractor who had cut the line and did a bad splice.

They ran a brand new line, no splices all the way to the house, about a quarter of a mile the way the drive runs. Since then, we have great phone and great internet - except when a hurricane knocks out all power and all telephone service in the area...

Polybius

(15,428 posts)
59. Exactly
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 10:53 PM
Nov 2019

I'm in my 40's and can't even watch a TV show without checking social media multiple times.

ProfessorGAC

(65,069 posts)
31. Good One, Skittles!
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 11:17 AM
Nov 2019

Thanks for the chuckle!
To the poster who posited the question, I wonder if he/she knows you've been here nearly 20 years.

Response to UTUSN (Reply #8)

Sewa

(1,255 posts)
11. I've seen it at the gym
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 02:10 AM
Nov 2019

A twenty-something male who was always laughing and joking around at the gym. One day his friends hid his phone and he went off the rails. He started tearing the place apart looking for his phone and threaten to kick everybody’s ass in the gym.

Response to DFW (Reply #12)

DFW

(54,404 posts)
17. I don't even use a "smart" phone over here
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 03:41 AM
Nov 2019

My outfit makes me use one when I'm in the States, and I only know probably 2% of what it can do. I'm not interested in being encouraged to live in the stupid thing.

I think the illustration is pretty accurate in depicting the dependence many people seem to develop for these devices. I realize how many things that can be done on them, but for exactly that reason, it seems that a real dependence can build up quickly, and to the point where losing the thing can be more traumatic than an amputation of a limb.

Response to DFW (Reply #17)

DFW

(54,404 posts)
19. A while ago, I was walking on the street on the way to my Paris office
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 03:49 AM
Nov 2019

A group of Asian tourists passed by, and instead of looking up at this magnificent city they were in, every one of them had their heads glued to the screens of their phones.

If that's all they came to France to do, why the hell didn't they just stay home?

Response to DFW (Reply #19)

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
22. I rarely check mine unless I have a lot of downtime or I'm
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 06:28 AM
Nov 2019

bored or something, and then it's usually to clear or deal with my email, text and phone messages. The one thing that I really like it for is when I am on public transportation, or in a car or waiting at a doctor's office and then I use it for DU, to play games, Pinterest, looking things up on Google, etc.

However, I hate texting and apps like Facebook, Snapchat, etc, so I don't really use it to communicate w/ others except for logistical purposes. Most people know that I don't want to be bothered.

dweller

(23,641 posts)
25. my name is
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 09:21 AM
Nov 2019

dweller and i'm smartphone addicted 😞

had that panic/distress recently when i woke and reached for my iphone where
it sits every nite plugged to charge ... wasn't there, so i got up and went to
lr where i must have left it on table by chair ... not there either..
went back to br to get my glasses (which i have to have to see clearly) and checked the plug again, back LR to look again and all the while an anxiety is growing in my solar plexus because there's only 2 places the damn thing ever
is if not on me, table by chair or plugged in (checked plug again) checked coat
pockets, checked plug again, back to LR and found it on the floor, leaned up against a stack of books ??? how it got there i'll never know
i actually cussed the little f'r for putting me through the panic, then went and
tied it down good by plugging it in ...

now get off my lawn

✌🏼

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
47. oh wow, you just made me realize I *DO* panic when I lose my phone
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 08:30 PM
Nov 2019

but ONLY because now they are making us put work password generators on it - Symantec and Authenticator, for example. SUCKS!

dweller

(23,641 posts)
52. in my case
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 09:54 PM
Nov 2019

i'm having life/health issues and i have no other communication device,
and in an emergency its not like i can yell for an ambulance,
or stand on my porch and cry 911 !

sigh, getting old sux 😑

✌🏼

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
26. Not just millenials, I am a gen xer and lf I lose my phone
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 09:23 AM
Nov 2019

I freak out until I find it, this happened just last night.😳
Even though I have a laptop and a tablet, I barely use them. I use my phone for almost everything, it is a part of me.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
54. It's funny tbh.
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 09:58 PM
Nov 2019

If 40 years ago they would have told us that in the future we will have devices that can track our every movement, we would have been furious. It would have been near revolt.

Now we carry said devices and we can’t live without them. Welcome to our “brave new world”.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
55. Yeah right, even 20 years ago.😉 Unfortunately, it is like another
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 10:07 PM
Nov 2019

appendage, a detachable appendage all kinds of awful things can happen to. At least they are fairly easy to replace. Last night in 10 minutes, I was on my way to a full blown panic attack, it's a real problem.

 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
64. I don't worry about not having use of the phone if I can't find it.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 10:43 PM
Nov 2019

I freak out because I don't want to have to scramble to buy a new phone. I don't do the idiocy of getting a "free" phone with shitty overpriced service. I always outright buy my phone and use a prepaid carrier. So if I lose my phone, I need to get a new one, pronto. And money isn't always at hand to do that if the worst should happen.

PBC_Democrat

(401 posts)
28. It's not just young people ...
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 10:44 AM
Nov 2019

I can't imagine leaving my house without my iPhone and Apple watch. From navigation to entertainment to price checking (with the Amazon app).
I rely on my electronics to keep me in touch with friends, family, and golf partners.
For navigation - Waze is easier than using my car navigation.
For entertainment - Music and podcast make running errands less annoying
For availability - I get a lot of "wanna play in 30 mins" invitations.
For communications - car breaks down -- 1-800 AAA help and I'm usually back on the road within an hour
For price checking - if I don't need it right now, I check to see if Amazon has it for less money - I can usually get it delivered the next day.

Phones and watches are just tools - they are neither good or bad.

littlemissmartypants

(22,692 posts)
32. Addiction is serious and cell phone use fundamentally alters the brain.
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 12:18 PM
Nov 2019

Who remembers the Palm Pilot? I slept with mine the first month I had it but then I'm a know gadget geek. It had a modular black and white camera. I loved that thing!! Then bag phones, flip phones... I had a Nokia that could double as a lethal weapon it was so solid. Good times. I wish I could see the devices of the future. I hate that I have to die. I've got some serious fomo on the future.

ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
33. Oh I want to say 'Ok Boomer" sooo bad....
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 12:24 PM
Nov 2019

I want to point out that the smart phone is the single most important piece of computing technology most of us have. It contains contacts, apps, calendars, communication and entertainment tools


Eventually these things will probably be literal body implants, but I’ll be long dead


I would be anxious about not having my phone, or my watch. It contains a lot of information I use for day to day life. This does not mean I have my nose struck in it all the time.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
38. Well, I already knew I was no longer young.
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 02:07 PM
Nov 2019

But, I lose my phone all the time and usually can’t remember the last time I had it.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
39. Not surprising
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 02:41 PM
Nov 2019

given my observations. My lady was in the hospital for about eleven days, and I saw loads of younger people glued to their smartphone screens.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
40. Warning you kids, being grounded now means loss of cellphone priveleges, better be good!
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 03:07 PM
Nov 2019

Listen or else!

LOL

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
41. No surprise to anyone who's observed people these days.
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 04:34 PM
Nov 2019

I was considered weird when I spent hours a day on my laptop, but I can't imagine wanting a "smart" phone. Maybe it's my fat fingers, but I loathe touchscreens in the first place.

Never mind being complicit in my own surveillance and brainwashing.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
44. I am 62, and i am an addict.
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 07:28 PM
Nov 2019

The only time I do not use my phone is when I am asleep. With all the electronics these days, I really envy younger people growing up with them. I was born 40 years too early.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
49. see, I'm glad I got to experience life before PCs and cell phones
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 08:34 PM
Nov 2019

we're like, probably the most pivotal folk ever, to have known both worlds

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
57. I wanted an Altair so bad....
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 10:40 PM
Nov 2019

They came out my senior year in HS. I remember pricing it out with all the options, and it came to $10K. This was back in 1975. In today's dollars that would what $60-70K?

And this was with 5 1/4 floppies only, no hard drive.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
67. I believe our experiences with both gives us a perspective that
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 11:10 PM
Nov 2019

young people today don't have.

It is wonderful to be able to access information in ten minutes that used to take months to gather. But if a person doesn't put that power into perspective, it can be psyche damaging. We know how to expect a lot without expecting too much from technology.

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
45. There's a sizable segment of my students that reflect this.
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 07:49 PM
Nov 2019

I have a strict "no electronics" policy in my classroom.

About 10-15% of my students do not follow it, even when it causes them to fail the course.

Aristus

(66,386 posts)
50. Once again blaming young people.
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 08:54 PM
Nov 2019

On the rare occasions when I arrive at work noting that I left my phone at home, I fly into a panic. I'm fifty-one years old. Stop blaming young people!

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
53. Forgot mine at my parents in early November.
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 09:54 PM
Nov 2019

Picked it up yesterday.

I give my cell phone number to my students - but warn then that there's only two times during the year they are likely to reach me if they call (last week in July & last week in February - some of you will know the significance of those two weeks . . . )

Nope. Not addicted. (Not young, either, though.)

nolabear

(41,986 posts)
56. I'm afraid I'm a bit of an addict too.
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 10:38 PM
Nov 2019

I’m not going to panic without it but I certainly have made it a part of me. GPS for driving, email, social media, some games when I’m just watching mindless TV, phone, music, texts with the kids, and in case if emergency. I like being able to move about the house and world and still have access.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
62. Are there any studies being done about neck problems
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 10:33 PM
Nov 2019

due to slouching your head at 45 degrees for hours on end, or running into sign posts and telephone polls while walking on the street?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
68. I had to pull a guy back from stepping in front of a speeding NYC taxi one day.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 11:16 PM
Nov 2019

Anyone that saw the mid 2000s NYC cabbies drive know what I saw.

If he had taken two more steps he was dead. He was pissed that I saved him from stepping in front of that cabbie while lost in his phone screen.

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