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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:51 AM Sep 2012

Why not move Election-Day to second Saturday of November?

The less-than-34-days-before-first-Wednesday-of-December requirement would still hold, so it would be legal. And it wouldn't be a work-day, so actually voting would be less trouble.

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Why not move Election-Day to second Saturday of November? (Original Post) DetlefK Sep 2012 OP
Because people who are supposed to vote might actually vote. sadbear Sep 2012 #1
Indeed Animal Chin Sep 2012 #2
This. redqueen Sep 2012 #6
Because rsmith6621 Sep 2012 #3
It would require Congress to act,and.. TreasonousBastard Sep 2012 #4
Same reason why they haven't made election day a national holiday justiceischeap Sep 2012 #5
Yeah, make election day a national holiday! ananda Sep 2012 #8
When the conservatives are marginalized by slow demographic death... Gold Metal Flake Sep 2012 #7
Damn near everyone I know HappyMe Sep 2012 #9
personally, i think it should be moved to veteran's day. unblock Sep 2012 #10
Ah, yes, every single worker in America is off SheilaT Sep 2012 #11
yes, obviously, not everyone has a day off just because it's a federal holiday unblock Sep 2012 #13
Not a work day???? MicaelS Sep 2012 #12

Animal Chin

(175 posts)
2. Indeed
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 10:01 AM
Sep 2012

What we should push for is the Australian model -- mandatory voting enforced by a small tax penalty ($15 -20) if you don't vote. the tax penalty is forgiven if you can produce a doctor note or some other low-hurdle excuse. The point is not to penalize, but to acknowledge that you need robust participation for the process to work. The polls are open for an entire week, including the weekend, and allow for a liberal absentee process.

It's probably too easy to characterize as a loss of freedom (which it is, although a small one) to be realistic, but you would see an immediate end to the right-wing lunacy currently in or near power.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
6. This.
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 10:25 AM
Sep 2012

If the government wanted to enfranchise more people by making it easier to vote, they would do so.

They do not.

rsmith6621

(6,942 posts)
3. Because
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 10:03 AM
Sep 2012


.... People who vote will vote whatever the date.... We could change it and make the voting last three days and still those who feel disengaged with the process wont vote.

In Washington we have gone to a 100% mail iin absentee ballot and closed the polls and still there is a fair share of ballots that end up in the landfill.

Convenience is not the answer.


TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. It would require Congress to act,and..
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 10:20 AM
Sep 2012

it's a problem getting congress to do anything. Imagine the ridiculous debates about how the country will dissolve in anarchy if we change Election Day.

We'll be selling gasoline by the liter before that happens.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
5. Same reason why they haven't made election day a national holiday
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 10:21 AM
Sep 2012

it would be easier for people to vote and "they" don't want that.

Gold Metal Flake

(13,805 posts)
7. When the conservatives are marginalized by slow demographic death...
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 10:26 AM
Sep 2012

... we will be able to move on to election reform.

My ideas:

Voting across a weekend (Friday, Sat & Sun, for example).

Polls stay open 12-14 hours to serve all work shifts.

Paper ballots & hand counts.

If it takes 3 days to do a complete accurate count, so be it.

Perhaps required voting participation like in Australia.

Reform of election financing of some sort.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
9. Damn near everyone I know
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 10:35 AM
Sep 2012

works on Saturdays.
So, pair the change the voting date with voter id stuff and who benefits?

The people that want to vote, make it their business to do so.

unblock

(52,328 posts)
10. personally, i think it should be moved to veteran's day.
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 10:47 AM
Sep 2012

what better way to honor vets than to exercise the right to vote that they fought to protect?
well, that and the oil we burn on the way to and from the polls....

besides, it's already a federal holiday, so no one can whine about workers getting an extra day off "just" to vote.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
11. Ah, yes, every single worker in America is off
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 12:01 PM
Sep 2012

on a federal holiday.

While I know that your point was about the possible extra day off, I'm constantly astonished at the many office workers who don't seem to understand that actual living, breathing, human beings work shift work, and they're the reason you can get a hamburger, or buy some milk, or put gas in your car, or fly on an airplane, or be arrested, or treated at an emergency room, or any one of a zillion other things when the office workers have a day off.

I think that the early voting that every state (I think it's every state now) has, is the current correct solution to the problem. I've been voting early ever since it became possible, which for me was in 1980 when I lived in Virginia. They'd set up voting machines at the county courthouse, and since I was going to be out of the country on election day itself, I voted some time in early October.

unblock

(52,328 posts)
13. yes, obviously, not everyone has a day off just because it's a federal holiday
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 02:14 PM
Sep 2012

but the federal government really can't do more than give its own employees the day off and encourage other employers to do likewise where feasible.

in any event, it would be an improvement to have it be on a holiday (or perhaps a weekend) rather than on an ordinary business day.

i also agree that early voting, mail-in voting, and online voting would be improvements as well, where implemented properly.

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