then we should probably spend time with the real story rather than social media outrage (and false information). OK?

NYTimes - 2days ago -

Still not convinced that "statement" was before Starbucks did any meaningful investigation, but after they decided to do some quick public relations damage control.

So you're not getting much traction there. But I can see that you've sufficiently made up your mind.
I think I'll go with the barista's apology ...

so we can all go with this apology. The only report of the employee apologizing is the officer saying the employee called him to apologize and said it was a joke. For what I think are obvious reasons I can't accept the officer's retelling.
While you write from a keyboard Starbuck's Baristas write your name by hand on the drinks. The only time a printed name appears on a Starbuck's cup is when you order it using the mobile app. That name is the one the person submitting the order types in.
What do you say, can you produce anything other than the officer telling us the Barista apologized to him? I think Starbucks didn't want to argue with the police and accepted their story uncritically.

Either way I'm never going to a Starbucks.

that nothing I wrote should be construed as me advising anyone to go to Starbucks.

I was just giving my personal thoughts. I won't go to Starbucks because of how they treated minority customers in the past.

I was saying you're right about the mobile app which a lot of people are mentioning the process which is why they had doubts.

It's a term from the 60's, not popular today.

For what it's worth, someone saying someone else said something will not hold up in court. So until we actually hear the fired employee say they "did it" there is reason to be skeptical.

I found the story to be farfetched from the beginning.

Have I missed anyone? Oh... yes, and fuck the national news and fuck social media.

Anyone else? (Fuck me, yeah, yeah... anyone ELSE?)

...

That shit is expensive.

Starbucks confirmed the employee wrote it. The employee admitted to it. There is no conspiracy here about it (it’s a local story to me). The employee was fired and it’s over with.

of the employee admitting he did it. The only quote I find is from the officer who said he got the PIG cups. I don't believe that happened unless the employee is quoted directly.
The problem for me is it is inconsistent with what I have observed at Starbucks. When an employee writes my name on the cup it is handwritten. When I order using the app I type in a name that is printed on the label. The name on the cup the police showed was printed. The police version maybe could happen, but it doesn't seem likely.

will just jump in front of a camera and yell "It was me!!!"

We would see the person if they were unjustly fired.

but the policeman who was ostensibly given the offensive cup(s) saying the baristia responsible called him and apologized doesn't prove that it happened nor does the silence of the person(s) fired/suspended prove they are guilty.

I’m so glad he’s been called out.

I was offended on behalf of the police when I read the original story. People who haven’t done anything other than order coffee don’t deserve insults, right? Now I’m absolutely grossed out by this whiny self-pitying attention-seeking professional victim’s pathetic behavior.

but Starbucks employee admitted to writing offending script
(and would get fired from most businesses for same)

(OP started out from false premise.)

I've seen quotes that the cop said the employee admitted it and apologized, but no good evidence or corroboration.

"no good evidence or corroboration." You mean beyond several major news sources, the corporation, and the individuals involved? Are we suppose to be getting out our parabolic mics on this one?
https://ktul.com/news/local/starbucks-manager

to have gotten drinks with the word PIG on them says the Barista called him to apologize. That isn't a quote from the employee it's second hand from someone with something to gain.

Cops lie. It’s happened to me, why would I take his word for anything in this situation? No one has heard a thing from the employee.

that means this really didn't happen?

Freaking amazing.

I said I have no reason to believe the cop.

You do you.

You can bet Starbucks investigated the claim to avoid a wrongful termination lawsuit.

It took Starbucks forever to fire some idiot racist managers.

But not a single shred of doubt about those assumptions of investigation in your mind. And now the cop says it was a joke?

Like I said. You do you.

assuming right away that the cop lied without a single shred of doubt.

Some baristas have explained how those printed labels are generated.

I don't expect you to acknowledge it however. Because "investigation" or some other nonsense.

Here is part of Starbuck's statement:

determine that the employee was responsible for this, hence the termination.

Look, you and I aren't going to change each others minds, so, on that note, you have a great Tuesday.

and until there is proof that the cop did lie and Starbucks says they goofed, then I'll believe the officer and Starbucks.

Another thing, if this didn't happen the way it's being portrayed, then why hasn't the employee come forward to dispute it?

MrsCoffee is considering the possibility that the cop *could* have lied. You seem to think such a thing is utterly impossible.

Starbucks can fire any employee (as can most employers) at will, as long as it's not for a narrow set of reasons (like racial/sexual discrimination).

Not sure they'd worry about a wrongful termination lawsuit considering that.

The manager and employee probably "apologized" in order to be done with it, and they might not have done anything wrong. We know how that works-- "Just apologize and we'll be done with it."

Then they got fired anyway.

I don't think their supposed apologies actually are indications of guilt.

Doh

Employee was fired

Coming out and apologizing publicly would just be advertising that they're a shitty employee. Not a wise move for someone in need of a job.

No one to call him out without screwing themselves.

risking his reputation in the small town.

The internet sure can be entertaining.

Oh so funny.

when she said she was suspended even though it was an employee that did it, not her?

And yes, even though the cop is a man, it is a gendered slur, even ore of one.

Those thugs are caught lying all the time.

I've read nothing that said this cop walked into a Starbucks, ordered a drink and a barista wrote "pig" on the cup. I'm willing to bet that whoever made the drink had no idea who the customer was and just used whatever name was given, either over the phone or online, for the order pick up.

Social Media?

Starbucks has already apologized to the officer and the dept. after, I quite sure, they investigated the incident.


https://stories.starbucks.com/stories/2019/joint-statement-from-starbucks-and-kiefer-okla-police-after-regrettable-incident/

Facts be damned.

"It's more fun to believe law enforcement is a sacred cow."

Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Facts be damned, indeed...

"Despite speculation on social media that the officer was responsible for the word on the label, a Starbucks statement expressly said that the barista “wrote this offensive word,” used “poor judgment” and was ultimately fired for violating company policy.

“This language is offensive to all law enforcement and is not representative of the deep appreciation we have for police officers who work tirelessly to keep our communities safe,” Mr. Mendes said."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/30/us/starbucks-pig-cup.html

to say anything but ... what they said?

I.E. do you think it's more important to Starbucks that they 'tell the truth' (if the cop was indeed responsible) ... WRT their bottom-line?

I'm certainly not saying I 'know' either way, but I could easily see Starbucks deciding that it's not in their interest to say the Cop did it, even if they were 100% positive it was so.

A wrongful termination lawsuit, even if victorious, would not hurt them nearly as much as the pissing off of the Fuzz.

A great many people tend to not really care about the truth anymore, in case you've not noticed.

And everyone knows 'the customer is always right' ... yeah?

Just something(s) to consider.

"Former Starbucks manager says she was wrongfully fired after coffee cup controversy...

"I was terminated from my position because, Starbucks was looking for someone to take the blame for this and to save some face from their company," she said.

After nine months as a manager, Price said she was fired for something she didn't do and explained that she wasn't the one who printed "PIG" on the label.

That was done, she says, by one of the baristas."

https://ktul.com/news/local/starbucks-manager

But the only telling evidence is the laser printed word "pig". Everything else is hearsay, each side with either an alibi, a bone to pick or the need to save on lawyers fees.
The answer is found on the laser printed sticker.

on a fucking Starbucks cup. What the fuck, people? Who gives a shit?

If our country, our world, are going to survive, we're going to have to do better than this with our priorities and attention. This is fucking ridiculous.

Their little fee-fees got hurted.

Exactly how does that have the slightest impact on their lives, or their families' lives? This type of inane conflict between two random people happens all the time. I'm not sure about whether I could give less of shit about it, but I don't think I could. And it certainly doesn't deserve the attention it's getting from people on DU or elsewhere.

All I see is a quote from the cop, who may have been lying about the whole incident.

I have seen nothing from the barista. Nor would I expect them to speak up at this point.

""I was terminated from my position because, Starbucks was looking for someone to take the blame for this and to save some face from their company," she said.

After nine months as a manager, Price said she was fired for something she didn't do and explained that she wasn't the one who printed "PIG" on the label.

That was done, she says, by one of the baristas."

https://ktul.com/news/local/starbucks-manager

"After nine months as a manager, Price said she was fired for something she didn't do and explained that she wasn't the one who printed "PIG" on the label.

That was done, she says, by one of the baristas.

"They, to make it seem like they were right on top of everything, which they are, but they terminated me from my position with no cause," she said.

Price said she tried to make it right when she found out about the labels."

https://ktul.com/news/local/starbucks-manager

It appears that the fired manager says it was an employee who did that.

That a cop would lie!

I think I'll give this one a little more time, too.

The only thing I thought was strange the first time around was the use of the term "pig", which is pretty archaic for a Starbucks barista to be using, IMHO.

"Former Starbucks manager says she was wrongfully fired after coffee cup controversy...

"I was terminated from my position because, Starbucks was looking for someone to take the blame for this and to save some face from their company," she said.

After nine months as a manager, Price said she was fired for something she didn't do and explained that she wasn't the one who printed "PIG" on the label.

That was done, she says, by one of the baristas."

https://ktul.com/news/local/starbucks-manager

on this has left me feeling they left out some stuff this manager included. I'm pretty sure we haven't seen this story in its final form yet.

"You should share the Employee's words.

so we can all go with this apology. The only report of the employee apologizing is the officer saying the employee called him to apologize and said it was a joke. For what I think are obvious reasons I can't accept the officer's retelling.
While you write from a keyboard Starbuck's Baristas write your name by hand on the drinks. The only time a printed name appears on a Starbuck's cup is when you order it using the mobile app. That name is the one the person submitting the order types in.
What do you say, can you produce anything other than the officer telling us the Barista apologized to him? I think Starbucks didn't want to argue with the police and accepted their story uncritically. "

I and others have posted a link to the story where the fired manager (Employee) said she tried to make it right and that it was a barista who put the word on the coffee cup.

and I understand what she says now implicates an employee, an employee who is conveniently not her. From a link in that same story there is another puzzle piece, the police chief now says he has security footage from the Starbucks that will prove what happened. That footage hasn't been released so we are left with a promise of video.
All I'm saying is I don't think we have seen the last twist in this unfolding tale of offensively labeled, mediocre, caffeinated refreshment.

I mean, they are consistent, so there's that. And if your drink of choice isn't coffee with minimal additions, they do a good job at the sugary mixed drinks. But their coffee as just coffee is hot trash.

Their nitro cold brew is solid.

"Oklahoma police chief Johnny O’Mara accused a Starbucks employee of writing “pig” on his cup, which caused the employee to be fired. "

The story in the OP appears to have the facts wrong. The fired employee, the manager, said it was a barista that did it. You tried to argue earlier that there is no word directly from the employee who was terminated and that is not true as proven by the link to the story I provided you. It may be because you have the barista confused with the person who was fired for this.

for what you think are inaccuracies in my post #15. When I wrote that I had not seen what the manager said, but I am addressing the officer being apologized to by the barista. In the NYT story the officer is quoted as saying the employee contacted him and said it was a joke. This has been used as proof that the barista confessed and my position is that it is not. With that in mind I asked the person who said they would go with the barista's apology what the apology they are going by said. Neither myself or the person who I was questioning were refering to the manager because we didn't know there was a manager involved.
Again, I have read the piece on the manager and I understand she indicated a barista was responsible for the cup label(s). That means that we still haven't heard from the offending employee, presumably the one the officer was contacted by.

"Oklahoma police chief Johnny O’Mara accused a Starbucks employee of writing “pig” on his cup, which caused the employee to be fired. "

It was the manger who was fired and not one of the baristas whom the fired manager said did it. The fired manager is claiming she was wrongfully terminated by Starbucks and has said nothing negative, as far as I can find, about the police or police chief.

it wasn't the police chief's cup and it was the manager not the employee who was fired.

In reading more news about this, it's reported that both the manager and employee have been suspended.

"We reached out to Starbucks Friday and they tell us the employee and a manager have been suspended. "

https://ktul.com/news/local/chief-kiefer-pd-receiving-security-footage-monday-from-starbucks-to-put-an-end-to-rumors

The video will show the employee(s) affixing a label to a cup. They will not have video of the label being printed. I doubt if they will have video of am employee altering the printing protocol.

When she said it was the barista that did it?

that attempts to say why the manager was fired or that she was lying when she said a barista did it. How would you come to that conclusion?

manager was fired for lying. As far as we know Starbucks fired her because such an offensive label was given to a police officer on her watch. Maybe Starbucks is operating from the position that the baristia did put the name on the cup and the baristia has been disciplined or fired we don't actually know his fate at this point.

Hopefully we'll learn more soon so this whole thing can be put to rest.

It sounds like she can't name names.

"Claim: A Starbucks barista in Glenpool, Oklahoma, added the word "pig" to a police officer's order label in November 2019.
Rating: True"

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/starbucks-police-pig/

Wharglebargle!!!1!1!

Give me a break. Police chief isn't claiming somebody wrote "Pig" on his coffee cup.

So right from the start that article is inaccurate.