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Clash City Rocker

(3,402 posts)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:36 PM Dec 2019

Here's a reason to push for impeachment, regardless of what the Senate does

Posting this, in part, because I didn’t know it until now, so it may be newsworthy to others as well.

Regardless of whether a sitting president can be indicted and convicted on such criminal charges, Trump will become liable to them at some point. But could he be pardoned, as Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon 45 years ago?

Article II, section 2 of the constitution gives a president the power to pardon anyone who has been convicted of offenses against the United States, with one exception: “in Cases of Impeachment.”

If Trump is impeached by the House, he can never be pardoned for these crimes. He cannot pardon himself (it’s dubious that a president has this self-pardoning power in any event), and he cannot be pardoned by a future president.

Even if a subsequent president wanted to pardon Trump in the interest of, say, domestic tranquility, she could not.

Gerald Ford wrote in his pardon of Nixon that if Nixon were indicted and subject to a criminal trial, “the tranquility to which this nation has been restored by the events of recent weeks could be irreparably lost”.

Had the House impeached Nixon, Ford’s hands would have been tied.

Trump is not going to be so lucky. The House will probably impeach him before Christmas and then his chance of getting a pardon for his many crimes will be gone.


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/30/trump-impeachment-inquiry-removal

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Here's a reason to push for impeachment, regardless of what the Senate does (Original Post) Clash City Rocker Dec 2019 OP
Or Doormouse Dec 2019 #1
I expect him to try to give himself a blanket pardon louis-t Dec 2019 #2
That means the impeachment itself can't be pardoned Kablooie Dec 2019 #3
that's my reading of it, too Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #4

louis-t

(23,309 posts)
2. I expect him to try to give himself a blanket pardon
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:47 PM
Dec 2019

before impeachment. He will at least mention it at one of his Nazi rallies.

Kablooie

(18,644 posts)
3. That means the impeachment itself can't be pardoned
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:49 PM
Dec 2019

Which would allow him to restore his position. I don’t think it applies to the crimes that led to impeachment. He could still be pardoned for those.

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