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lostnfound

(16,193 posts) Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:48 PM Dec 2019

Kudos, Nicole Wallace and Elise Jordan. Patriots.

What Nicole just said and what Elise Jordan followed up with was so crystal clear and clear eyed.

One of the guests — Deutsch — was saying that the needle hasn’t moved on impeachment, that in spite of all of the findings of the impeachment inquiry, the country apparently doesn’t care, and that the Democrats need to MAKE people care, by talking about how trump is going to betray you on healthcare, etc.

Nicole stopped him and said wait a minute.. Half the country USED to care about.... It would be a mistake for the democrats to think they have to convince republicans.. the question is why don’t they care?

I want to get the exact quote. It was a thing of beauty. Around 4:40 pm ET.

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Kudos, Nicole Wallace and Elise Jordan. Patriots. (Original Post) lostnfound Dec 2019 OP

Since 50% people want him impeached, Trump has no chance to win in 2020 at140 Dec 2019 #1

It is naive to think that genxlib Dec 2019 #3

2016 was BEFORE the hearings and inquiry at140 Dec 2019 #6

Political leaders need to lead, which sometimes includes cilla4progress Dec 2019 #2

They're not "political leaders," they're party functionaries, taking orders from party leaders. sop Dec 2019 #4

Yes they need to lead. Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #5

at140

(6,110 posts)

1. Since 50% people want him impeached, Trump has no chance to win in 2020

Reply to lostnfound (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:51 PM

Dec 2019

and that 50% can only go up from here as more hearings are held and facts are laid out for all to see.

genxlib

(5,546 posts)

3. It is naive to think that

Reply to at140 (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:06 PM

Dec 2019

It matters which of those 50% vote and which state they vote in.

He proved in 2016 that he could win with less than 50% of the voters.

at140

(6,110 posts)

6. 2016 was BEFORE the hearings and inquiry

Reply to genxlib (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:15 PM

Dec 2019

Now chairman Schiff has exposed Trump's crimes, and soon chairman Nadler will expose more.
After you subtract those Trump voters who are against crime, and are for the constitution, and will abstain in 2020,
Trump's narrow victories in swing states will turn into landslide loss.

cilla4progress

(24,784 posts)

2. Political leaders need to lead, which sometimes includes

Reply to lostnfound (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:51 PM

Dec 2019

making the tough or unpopular decisions. It just is.

sop

(10,274 posts)

4. They're not "political leaders," they're party functionaries, taking orders from party leaders.

Reply to cilla4progress (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:11 PM

Dec 2019

And their party leaders take orders from monied interests. It's all Kabuki theatre.

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)

5. Yes they need to lead.

Reply to cilla4progress (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:14 PM

Dec 2019

But,until the Corporate Media,who btw helped elect this Crook,changes it direction away from trying to defend the Crook,too,defending the rule of law. Nothing changes much.

Wallace had a fairly decent program today,but,she still will not admit her GOP needs to step up to the plate and demand the Crook be removed immediately.

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