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HUGELY INCRIMINATING PHONE RECORDS SUGGEST RUDY GIULIANI IS F---ED
The presidents lawyer should probably get a lawyer.
BY BESS LEVIN at Vanity Fair
DECEMBER 3, 2019
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/12/rudy-giuliani-ukraine-phone-records
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Much of the damning information comes in the form of phone records. According to logs obtained by the committee from AT&T, Giuliani was in extremely frequent communication with the White House, specifically the Office of Management and Budget, where acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, of Ukraine drug deal fame, is still director. For instance, Giuliani spoke with unidentified individuals at OMB and the White House on April 12, 23, and 24. An OMB call on the latter date lasted over 13 minutes and occurred just one day before Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch was told to return from Kiev. Following many of these communications, the Week notes, Giuliani placed calls to or received calls from his indicted associate Lev Parnas, whom Giuliani allegedly dispatched to Ukraine to dig up dirt on Joe Biden and his son. Another call of particular interest was the 13-minute one between Giuliani and OMB on August 8, which occurred just one day after Ambassador Kurt Volker messaged Giuliani about a meeting with Ukrainian presidential aide Andriy Yermakand a visit the two had discussed.
Last month the Washington Post reported that a confidential White House review of Trumps decision to put a hold on aid to Ukraine has turned up hundreds of documents that reveal extensive efforts to generate an after-the-fact justification for the decision and a debate over whether the delay was legal, on which OMB led the charge. In early August, for instance, Mulvaney asked acting OMB director Russell Vought to provide an update on the legal rationale for holding up the aid and how much longer it could be delayed. According to the justification from the OMB lawyerswhich the State Department and National Security Council disputedwithholding the aid was legal so long as they referred to it as a temporary hold. Was Giuliani strategizing with someone at OMB re: the delayed aid? Whos to say!
Walter Shaub
✔@waltshaub
There is no good reason for Rudy Giuliani to be talking to OMB and plenty of bad ones.
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In addition to the frequent calls with OMB, logs show a number of calls with an individual whose number only appears as -1 in phone records, which at least one former Justice Department official believes is Trumps cell phone. Obviously, its not at all surprising that Giulianiwho is already the subject of numerous investigationswas in close contact with Trump, but its yet another data point that blows a hole in the presidents Giuliani acted alone defense, which no one believed the first time he trotted it out.
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Lock him up.
(6,929 posts)''Presidential Pardon''
Looks like he's not F'ed unless... conviction and sentence come after January 2021 (or after removal, if any).
applegrove
(118,659 posts)Lock him up.
(6,929 posts)... that charge?
Then they must be labeled as betrayers of their Oath of Office for life.
joshdawg
(2,648 posts)republican congressvermin are all complicit.
Arkansas Granny
(31,517 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)dem4decades
(11,296 posts)And they can look at Nunes too while they're at it.
BigmanPigman
(51,593 posts)That says it all. I knew the fucking moron was a "real zero" but now he is in the negatives. New nick name!
crazytown
(7,277 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,593 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)Before rudy flips and starts talking to stay out of prison. What should be asked is who is next to get suicided or poisoned by putin and trump. Rudy, Lev, Igor, Bolton, others? Rudy knows this now too, and more will be exposed , so this is just the start of what comes out.
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)I can just hope.....
2naSalit
(86,630 posts)there's a big RICO sweep coming to some congresscritters near you just as soon as the two who would issue pardons are removed. The whole cabinet and a bunch of Congress are doing to go down with this ship. And I can't wait for all the spawn to be exposed and put in prison too. Next year will be pretty exiting, I just hope it's a happy kind of exciting for the most part. I expect that Pence will be included somewhere along the line at some strategic point where he is removed at the same time. But I also think that pardons can't be issued to criminals by criminals of the same crime.