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irisblue

(32,980 posts)
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 09:58 AM Dec 2019

Trump is NOT doing his 10:30 presser, he maaad

Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) Tweeted:
ICYMI, a hot mic picked up Canadian PM Justin Trudeau & others at NATO apparently talking about Pres Trump's lateness, extended press conferences & Trump's team's jaws dropping in response to Trump's comments at NATO. And now, Trump seems to have cancelled his 10:30 a.m. presser. https://t.co/HeHTZqEP2L





He saw the laughing at him clip, new tarriffs coming?
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Trump is NOT doing his 10:30 presser, he maaad (Original Post) irisblue Dec 2019 OP
That's not it at all gratuitous Dec 2019 #1
Not true spinbaby Dec 2019 #5
And McDonald's is so much better there Blue_playwright Dec 2019 #18
That definitely true, even in China. Duppers Dec 2019 #53
McD Japan's Teritama Burger Grokenstein Dec 2019 #78
interesting. riversedge Dec 2019 #76
LOL! stevil Dec 2019 #69
There are MacDonald's places all over London. MineralMan Dec 2019 #24
And a ton of KFC's as well sdfernando Dec 2019 #31
I went on a tour with a choral group to England MineralMan Dec 2019 #35
It never ceases to amaze me. But so many people are incurious & sleep walk through life. Plus Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2019 #48
Or they get tired of the food of the country they are in BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #68
On a bus tour? "long period of time" is not what we were remarking on. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2019 #70
I have no idea what your response is supposed to mean BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #71
Mineral Man's post #35, that I responded to. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2019 #72
Exactly! sdfernando Dec 2019 #55
I'm an oboist, or was. Playing the oboe often meant opportunities MineralMan Dec 2019 #61
Ahh..the Oboe sdfernando Dec 2019 #62
Whats the difference between an oboe and a bassoon? Captain Zero Dec 2019 #64
One day I went to the store and had my bagpipes with me in the back seat. spike jones Dec 2019 #74
It's all nonsense, trying to classify musicians like that. MineralMan Dec 2019 #65
On my trips I'll stop in once or twice BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #66
Well, in England, at least in larger cities and towns, MineralMan Dec 2019 #67
Didn't anyone try Fish and Chips? Scarsdale Dec 2019 #82
I was struck by the McDonald's on the Champs L'elyse as well...seemed kinda odd. Moostache Dec 2019 #44
Also one SoCalNative Dec 2019 #57
Yes, that and blogslut Dec 2019 #2
Awwww did poor widdly bay-be get his feewings hurted? Takket Dec 2019 #3
I imagine Trump's Mom was the actual "They're all gonna laugh at you" Lady. PubliusEnigma Dec 2019 #4
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! What a fucking baby! fleur-de-lisa Dec 2019 #6
So it means he has his people duforsure Dec 2019 #7
IMO, a stupid person would understand that s/he's overwhelmed and just follow the pack. Eyeball_Kid Dec 2019 #22
Au contraire. Aquaria Dec 2019 #27
"... it explains the entirety of Fox News" ... aggiesal Dec 2019 #47
The amount BigOleDummy Dec 2019 #8
My husband's extended family are in the cult maryellen99 Dec 2019 #11
Except people say same thing here about our leaders. Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #14
I have never called anyone "our leader" Farmer-Rick Dec 2019 #34
I never thought about it like you have but feel the same Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #37
Me either. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2019 #41
I feel the same as you Farmer-Rick I_UndergroundPanther Dec 2019 #63
But BigOleDummy Dec 2019 #45
unser fuhrer wnylib Dec 2019 #80
So now asshole is going to want to build a northern wall. cyndensco Dec 2019 #9
He's upset that with all the reporters around, he can't commit his daily crimes. CaptYossarian Dec 2019 #10
Hey trump they all are talking about you. Aren't you happy ? lunasun Dec 2019 #12
That cracked me up Generic Other Dec 2019 #81
NATO leaders have finally learned how to deal with Trump. Lonestarblue Dec 2019 #13
Like a petulant child, Trump's support for NATO yesterday will be met with him taking the ball home. TheBlackAdder Dec 2019 #17
He would have ended his support soon anyway pandr32 Dec 2019 #43
Our way out Traildogbob Dec 2019 #20
The Nationals and MMA crowds didn't laugh maxsolomon Dec 2019 #30
Agree Traildogbob Dec 2019 #51
Wow hard to pick up much of anything of conversation Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #15
Another day, another demonstration of what a petulant idiot Trump is. SunSeeker Dec 2019 #16
Not only that.... SergeStorms Dec 2019 #75
Leave Fuhrer Alone - Cries Heard From Trumpland DanieRains Dec 2019 #19
He's such a damn snowflake Ohiogal Dec 2019 #21
Look at it from his perspective Major Nikon Dec 2019 #29
Which wife? Oh that one. But the one he really wants is Ivanka.....just ask him. Farmer-Rick Dec 2019 #36
Probably right, but not much consolation for him there either Major Nikon Dec 2019 #39
Oh she really looks interested in the Canadian Prime Minister Farmer-Rick Dec 2019 #42
I would bet they do pandr32 Dec 2019 #46
Trump's motto,"When The Going Gets Tough, I have to get going home!" UCmeNdc Dec 2019 #23
in my depends..... AJT Dec 2019 #33
Yep. He mad. ancianita Dec 2019 #25
Nice OhioVoterBlue Dec 2019 #26
Screw you guys Major Nikon Dec 2019 #28
It wouldn't surprise me if this was planned. Vdizzle Dec 2019 #32
Don't blame us! WE didn't vote for him!!! calimary Dec 2019 #38
When you start laughing at him it means Farmer-Rick Dec 2019 #40
Bingo! smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #73
Baby! Baby!! Waaah!!! WAAAH!!! DinahMoeHum Dec 2019 #49
The psychiatrists warned us. When he is pressured, insulted or has a Grammy23 Dec 2019 #50
He can dish it out but he sure can't take it. Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2019 #77
One day we will witness his complete ego disintegration... polichick Dec 2019 #52
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2019 #54
Probably watching the hearing and throwing shit... Wounded Bear Dec 2019 #56
GOP Senators having a lunch meeting today? 🤔 irisblue Dec 2019 #58
Getting on AF 1 irisblue Dec 2019 #59
Bah-bye Dipshit Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #60
Executive time on the gold toilet in 3... 2... 1... Blue Owl Dec 2019 #79
Post removed Post removed Dec 2019 #83
Commercial Spam & 2 posts irisblue Dec 2019 #84

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. That's not it at all
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:00 AM
Dec 2019

Trump's pissed because there's just nowhere in this one-horse town where a fella can get a decent Big Mac.

Grokenstein

(5,723 posts)
78. McD Japan's Teritama Burger
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:49 PM
Dec 2019

(topped with egg and teriyaki sauce)
my taste buds: chef's kiss
my heart: melodramatic death scene

My town has approximately three thousand Chinese restaurants and I'd trade 'em all for one Hokka Hokka Tei or Hotto Motto bento store.

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
31. And a ton of KFC's as well
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:44 AM
Dec 2019

I was struck when I visited London at all the US fast food available there.

I had flown the red-eye from Boston to Heathrow, arriving at about 6:30am. I got to my hotel around 8am and was not able to check-in so I left my luggage there and took the tube to Piccadilly Circus. I walked up the stairs to the street and directly in front of me was a Starbucks.....ugh...I traveled from San Diego to London just to be greeted by Starbucks! And just down the way, KFC on one side of the street and McDonald's on the other.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
35. I went on a tour with a choral group to England
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:48 AM
Dec 2019

and other countries in the 1980s. I was part of the orchestra that accompanied the group. I can't tell you how many times the tour bus let people off at a MacDonald's store for lunch. WTF? I either ate from a street vendor or went into a bar or pub and had my lunch. Why on Earth would anyone travel to another country and eat at Micky Ds? Amazing.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
48. It never ceases to amaze me. But so many people are incurious & sleep walk through life. Plus
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:10 PM
Dec 2019

... maybe some are stressed out at dealing with "the other" and novel things, so they seek "comfort food".

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
68. Or they get tired of the food of the country they are in
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:12 PM
Dec 2019

I frankly don’t consider myself incurious or fearful of food from other places, but I can and will get sick of it if I’m in a country for a long period of time.

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
71. I have no idea what your response is supposed to mean
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:47 PM
Dec 2019

But don’t bother clarifying. I’m not that interested.

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
55. Exactly!
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:29 PM
Dec 2019

I like to experience and sample the local cuisine when I"m traveling. I don't want to eat what I can get at home!

On another note: What do you play MineralMan?

I"m a woodwind player myself, focusing on Flute and Piccolo. I don't play double reeds and my clarinet playing leaves a whole lot to be desired but I'm pretty good on sax (have played them all at some point).

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
61. I'm an oboist, or was. Playing the oboe often meant opportunities
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:27 PM
Dec 2019

to play with orchestras on a pick-up basis. That Euro tour was one such instance. Now, mind you, I had to pay for the trip, about $2500 for a two-week 7-country performing tour, but it was more than worth it. The vocal group was world-class, so we had great audiences and got to play in cathedrals and large halls in major cities. In fact, taking the orchestra with them was my idea, introduced at their annual Messiah performance and rehearsals. I was always principal oboe for that orchestra for those performances.

So, it ended up being a popular idea and the other orchestra members were eager to go, so we went. Great fun, although in our 14 days, we played 13 different venues, so we spent an awful lot of time on the tour buses, traveling to the next city. Still, I got to see a lot of places I hadn't visited before, so, it was all good.

I never ate in any American fast food place, either. Why would I, with local restaurants, pubs, and cafes everywhere?

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
62. Ahh..the Oboe
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:51 PM
Dec 2019

the oboe player was voted most neurotic by other members of the Orchestra....must be all that back pressure....LOL!

Check out this take on the different players in the orchestra.....apparently I'm supposed to be over-sexed!

https://chris-lamb.co.uk/posts/the-truth-about-orchestral-players

spike jones

(1,679 posts)
74. One day I went to the store and had my bagpipes with me in the back seat.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 09:08 PM
Dec 2019

After I parked and walked about a block, I remembered that the car window was down. I rushed back but was too late. Someone had already left another bagpipe.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
65. It's all nonsense, trying to classify musicians like that.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:02 PM
Dec 2019

I'm far from neurotic. I took up the oboe in high school, because nobody else wanted to play the instrument. I soon discovered that playing a relatively rare instrument meant lots more opportunities to play. I laid off of it for a couple of decades, and then took it up again in my 30s. After individual practice to get myself up to a standard that would pass muster in most casual groups, I let it be known that I was available on a pick-up basis. I also played with a woodwind quintet that worked very hard to build a solid repertory and found itself playing all over the place and actually being paid to do so.

I was never a professional level player, though. I was more of an advanced amateur who could play musically and who could learn just about any music with some practice. I could hold my own, but often found myself sitting next to someone who was miles better at the oboe than I was. But, in those situations, I was filling in for a missing player and could handle the second oboe parts well enough not to be noticed as an amateur.

Fortunately, I lived in a place with lots of opportunities to play. There were many smaller orchestras and pick-up groups that assembled for some particular purpose. I also got to play in pit orchestras for musical theater groups, one of my favorite things. In those, I was the woodwind player, taking up whatever instruments that the score called for. I remember one performance where I played everything from a piccolo to a baritone saxophone. Enormous fun. As long as I had time to learn the score, I could do just fine.

I had to give up the oboe, though, when my doctor cautioned me about my high blood pressure, which was not made lower by playing that instrument. Oh, well...it was great fun while it lasted.

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
66. On my trips I'll stop in once or twice
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:03 PM
Dec 2019

There are several reasons for this. I find British food, by and large, to be quite vile. Particularly pub fare and “Sunday roasts”. Also, when on a 2-3 week trip a little taste of home is nice. We were recently in Italy for a couple of weeks and about halfway through, when we were beginning to tire of Italian food, we stopped in for some McDonald’s. It hit the spot.

So no, I wouldn’t travel to Europe just to eat at McDonalds, but it can be a nice change of pace on long trips.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
67. Well, in England, at least in larger cities and towns,
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:08 PM
Dec 2019

you can count on finding Indian restaurants and restaurants serving French cuisine. I'm also a big fan of traditional English breakfast, and actually enjoy some pub foods.

Frankly, I can't imagine resorting to American fast food anywhere in the world except in the USA.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
44. I was struck by the McDonald's on the Champs L'elyse as well...seemed kinda odd.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:02 PM
Dec 2019

Apparently, that location is doing gangbusters business for the company...
London and Paris both have ample supplies of American junk food purveyors!
Luckily both cities are also stuffed full of far better local fare and usually in the same block or neighborhood!

Shockingly, I also found this article from 2016 about the same restaurant location:
https://slate.com/human-interest/2016/03/mcdonalds-on-paris-champs-elysees-gets-an-upscale-makeover.html

Whether the French or the annual hordes of Paris tourists are to blame, the McDonald’s flagship on the Avenue des Champs-Élysées is the fast food company’s most successful location in the world. It reopened in late February after a renovation that included an upscale, industrial-inspired makeover by French designer Patrick Norguet.


PubliusEnigma

(1,583 posts)
4. I imagine Trump's Mom was the actual "They're all gonna laugh at you" Lady.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:03 AM
Dec 2019

"Nooooooo!! Nooooooo!!!
They're all gonna laugh at you!!!"

Trump is the Butt of the World's Joke.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
7. So it means he has his people
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:19 AM
Dec 2019

Looking at ways he can use abuse his powers to hurt them with, and threaten revenge for their making fun of him publicly. They're all laughing at him now. The fool will go after them hurting our country because he made a fool of himself, again. His trips abroad keep showing how stupid he really is.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
22. IMO, a stupid person would understand that s/he's overwhelmed and just follow the pack.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:01 AM
Dec 2019

But Trumpy is truly batshit crazy and has no interest in any kind of self-assessment. He only shows raw, infantile emotion. He may or may not be "stupid", but he sure is nuts. And mean. This is why the GOP is terrified of him. Trumpy has no emotional buffers. He's constantly starving for adoration from and subservience of others.

 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
27. Au contraire.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:17 AM
Dec 2019

You’re thinking about things from the perspective of a not-stupid person. Let John Cleese explain why stupid people must double down on their stupid:

BigOleDummy

(2,270 posts)
8. The amount
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:21 AM
Dec 2019

of trumpetiers clogging that thread (on USA Todays twitter) brings not only amazement to me but shame. "Our Leader" this and "Our Leader" that...… sounds like well, you know what it sounds like I don't even have to say it.

maryellen99

(3,789 posts)
11. My husband's extended family are in the cult
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:34 AM
Dec 2019

When a Trumpie uses the words “Our President”, it’s a dead giveaway.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
14. Except people say same thing here about our leaders.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:36 AM
Dec 2019

I know not the same because he's a tyrannical monster and our leaders are very fine people. But we do say the word a lot.

Farmer-Rick

(10,179 posts)
34. I have never called anyone "our leader"
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:47 AM
Dec 2019

Or even "my leader". I don't have a leader and never will. Even in the military I never called anyone "our or my leader" ever.

I guess you can call me leaderless. And even "our" or "my" president I rarely use. Even with Obama, it was usually "the" president not "our or my."

I don't need a leader and the president is of the US. The president is Not president of me.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
63. I feel the same as you Farmer-Rick
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:54 PM
Dec 2019

I don't call anyone my leader,or my betters because I do not want to be lead ,and secondly equality is the truth and having self sovereignty is vitally important to me. An inner locus of control is the way to go. But it comes with consequences you learn from. If you want to be independent,learn stuff,become courageous,be a free thinker and grow more twords being better person than You were yesterday
practice self sovereignty.

We are all absolute kings of our self,whether you give away your own power to a "leader" or other things ,or not .

BigOleDummy

(2,270 posts)
45. But
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:03 PM
Dec 2019

In THOSE words? "Our Leader"?! I have never called Ms. Pelosi "our leader" or any other of our truly elected leaders by that phrasing. "Our Leader" sounds more cultish and authoritarian than anything I've seen in here. Our leaders are one thing "Our Leader" is something quite different imo.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
10. He's upset that with all the reporters around, he can't commit his daily crimes.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:28 AM
Dec 2019

He's suffering from withdrawal.

Also, he's surrounded by intelligent leaders who don't slobber over every incoherent syllable and childish nickname.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
12. Hey trump they all are talking about you. Aren't you happy ?
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:34 AM
Dec 2019

What trump sees:
https://m.



Hope it doesn’t go down with Canada like South Park

Lonestarblue

(10,009 posts)
13. NATO leaders have finally learned how to deal with Trump.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:35 AM
Dec 2019

Laugh at his ignorance and his braying about all his nonexistent accomplishments. European leaders have essentially written off the US, and they’re forming alliances without us. The US has been a world leader my whole life. It’s hard to imagine how things will change as we continue to lose our status. It isn’t just Trump—it’s the Republican Party too as they have shown their willingness to support unlawful actions that damage other countries. World leaders can no longer trust either the president or half of Congress. And they do not trust US citizens because we are the people (not us personally) who continue to elect representatives who have shown that they care more about their own power than preserving traditional alliances and the rule of law.

TheBlackAdder

(28,205 posts)
17. Like a petulant child, Trump's support for NATO yesterday will be met with him taking the ball home.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:43 AM
Dec 2019

.

Watch. It's just a matter of time before he's back on the Defunding NATO train.

He likes to talk big when around people to get props, but once he leaves, he'll stab them in the back.

.

pandr32

(11,586 posts)
43. He would have ended his support soon anyway
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:59 AM
Dec 2019

He declares things publicly, then as soon as Stephen Miller, and the rest of his ear whisperers get hold of him he does a 180. Your last line is dead on.

Traildogbob

(8,746 posts)
20. Our way out
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:56 AM
Dec 2019

I have been saying for 3 years., all you have to do is laugh in his face at his ignorance. He WILL stroke, end game. Same with Jordan, same with Nunez, same with all his besties. Arrogant high strung assholes ready to blow. So..........pop goes the weasels.❤️💥💔

Traildogbob

(8,746 posts)
51. Agree
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:21 PM
Dec 2019

We should laugh, boo, and blow the hell out of whistles, at all of them every time they are in public.

SunSeeker

(51,564 posts)
16. Another day, another demonstration of what a petulant idiot Trump is.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:40 AM
Dec 2019

Such an embarrassment for our country.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
75. Not only that....
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 09:46 PM
Dec 2019

but he's had extremely bad hair days since he reached England. I don't know if his team of hair wranglers wasn't allowed to suck up taxpayer dollars to make the trip this time or what, but his hair has been off-the-charts unmanageable, even for him. Imagine looking like a laughable, ridiculous fool and acting like a risible dip-shit too! Even more than normal, I mean.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
19. Leave Fuhrer Alone - Cries Heard From Trumpland
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:49 AM
Dec 2019

Trump needs to focus on hurting the correct people, not just America as a whole.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
29. Look at it from his perspective
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:42 AM
Dec 2019

When your wife sleeps on another floor and makes googly eyes at your arch nemesis, you'd have issues as well.

Farmer-Rick

(10,179 posts)
42. Oh she really looks interested in the Canadian Prime Minister
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:58 AM
Dec 2019

I wonder if she cheats on the grown boy she's married to?

I wonder if the first nude lady does?

pandr32

(11,586 posts)
46. I would bet they do
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:06 PM
Dec 2019

The Don is passed his prime by a long shot and Jared is gone a whole lot. Both women already have plenty of money so there are probably lots of men making passes at them constantly.
Let's face it--morals are not big with them.

Vdizzle

(383 posts)
32. It wouldn't surprise me if this was planned.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:45 AM
Dec 2019

I’m willing to bet those three knew exactly what they were doing. Making the orange one mad was intentional to watch him throw a tantrum. They probably even placed bets on whether he would stay or not. Lol. Playing him like a fiddle.

Farmer-Rick

(10,179 posts)
40. When you start laughing at him it means
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:55 AM
Dec 2019

You are no longer afraid of him.

Trumpy Dumpy probably trying to get to shorty Putin on the phone right now to sooth his fat ego....and get his orders.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
73. Bingo!
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 08:41 PM
Dec 2019

There is nothing he hates more than being ridiculed and laughed at. It means you don't take him seriously and don't fear him and you can see right through his bullshit "strong man" facade. He must be furious and humiliated right now. I can just imagine what he was like on the flight back home. Probably trying to strike the fear of god into everyone around him.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
50. The psychiatrists warned us. When he is pressured, insulted or has a
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:20 PM
Dec 2019

perceived insult, his condition will deteriorate. He cannot tolerate any push back. His emotional development was stifled at a very young age — maybe in his toddler or preschool years. So none of his behavior at this event in London should surprise anyone. Concealing his flaws in development is getting harder and harder as the impeachment process moves forward. It is appalling that the very people who could help stop this man from further damage to our nation are actively hampering their fellow congressmen from doing their duty.

I hope that soon we’ll understand why there has been so much difficulty ridding our government of such a dangerous man. Why have so many men and women worked so diligently to disrupt the process allowed under our constitution? Let the process work. If he is innocent, let the process show that. But if he has betrayed us, let that be known and shown. The facts will come out and we’ll know what happened and who did the crimes. But let the process go forward. We, the American people, deserve to know everything.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
77. He can dish it out but he sure can't take it.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:48 PM
Dec 2019

His insults and vulgar comments accumulate daily, but let anyone say anything, no matter how trivial, and he behaves like a petulant child.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
52. One day we will witness his complete ego disintegration...
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:24 PM
Dec 2019

We can hope and pray he doesn’t decide to take out the world along with him.

Fuck RepubliCONs.

irisblue

(32,980 posts)
59. Getting on AF 1
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:58 PM
Dec 2019

Kelly O'Donnell (@KellyO) Tweeted:
The president boarding Marine One in London to leave NATO earlier than planned l. https://t.co/WrJNKqzMdM


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