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Live Impeachment hearing (Original Post) dewsgirl Dec 2019 OP
Some other links BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #1
+1. The more the merrier dalton99a Dec 2019 #3
Let me begin. Turley is a piece of shit. dem4decades Dec 2019 #2
I don't know what happened to him......he used to be someone I looked up to a kennedy Dec 2019 #9
I also once had respect for him--but no more The Blue Flower Dec 2019 #13
I think I remember hearing that he wanted to be Ghost of Tom Joad Dec 2019 #46
Thanks for starting this thread. crickets Dec 2019 #4
Sensenbrenner (R-WI) BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #8
Lester Holt said this group is rowdier. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #14
Sensenbrenner is an idiot BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #5
I believe that answers my question! crickets Dec 2019 #10
Yup....but at least he isn't running again. a kennedy Dec 2019 #11
Lester Holt, said this is a rowdier bunch.😳 dewsgirl Dec 2019 #6
Kick dalton99a Dec 2019 #7
Nadler giving his opening statement BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #12
NPR is another source. lpbk2713 Dec 2019 #15
There's a ton on YouTube. Your welcome. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #16
Nadler: tRump welcomed help in 2016; demanded interference in 2020 Mersky Dec 2019 #17
He's doing a good job of laying out the founders' fears crickets Dec 2019 #18
Yup, he's making it pretty clear Mersky Dec 2019 #21
Doug Collins (R-GA) up BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #19
He is awful...his strategy, talk loud and fast. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #22
Well, that should be competition for Jacket-Off Jordan. EOM TruckFump Dec 2019 #26
I just said in another post, I think he may have shared his dewsgirl Dec 2019 #30
LOL! TruckFump Dec 2019 #35
Facts n/t dewsgirl Dec 2019 #39
Mute button activated. TruckFump Dec 2019 #25
Ugh, just turned it on and there he is n/t hibbing Dec 2019 #36
Oh God not this guy...Collins.🙄 dewsgirl Dec 2019 #20
They have nothing. He sounds idiotic. BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #23
Indeed he does. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #34
He must be on some very powerful stimulant. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #47
LOL😆 dewsgirl Dec 2019 #50
Did this guy inhale a kazoo? C_U_L8R Dec 2019 #24
Lol🙄 I think Jim Jordan shared some of his Adderall. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #27
Good one! Mike 03 Dec 2019 #32
collins, you are 'the same sad story' Mersky Dec 2019 #28
Cue the loudmouthed ignorant hick from Georgia. n/t TheFourthMind Dec 2019 #29
... BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #31
+1 crickets Dec 2019 #37
Perfect description of the Repukes' approach to these hearing. MoonRiver Dec 2019 #40
Swearing in of Constitutional experts. BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #56
Parliamentary inquiries are in fashion again crickets Dec 2019 #33
Crickets! You were mentioned in collins' thousand points Mersky Dec 2019 #38
I'm used to it - I get "quoted" all the time! crickets Dec 2019 #41
Ha. You are everywhere and it's awesome. Mersky Dec 2019 #52
Isn't his 5 minutes up BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #42
collins is auctioning off talking points Mersky Dec 2019 #43
Vote to table the motion from Collins to have Schiff come in to personally read a letter into BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #44
Bunch of time wasting junk of Mersky Dec 2019 #48
'Tears in Brooklyn?' Wut? Mersky Dec 2019 #45
I'm happy to know that all his bullshit is now in the congressional record for all to read. ancianita Dec 2019 #69
I wish Nadler could tell them to STFU! madaboutharry Dec 2019 #49
After a stupid back and forth that he was finally able to cut off - Nadler introducing the witnesses BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #51
The only way to get past these children pretending not to understand the rules crickets Dec 2019 #53
I was worried, he is doing a little better than I hoped...so far. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #57
the Rethugs are going to turn this into a shitshow Celerity Dec 2019 #54
I just want Chairman Nadler to be in control......don't want the Repubs to a kennedy Dec 2019 #61
+100000 Celerity Dec 2019 #70
I hope that he is able to emulate Adam Schiff's behavior. Don't get rattled. Arkansas Granny Dec 2019 #71
Thanks. Was looking for this. underpants Dec 2019 #55
No problem. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #60
Noah Feldman trying to proceed and getting interupted by the GOP idiots BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #58
Dear gawd. The drama queens Roland99 Dec 2019 #59
Shut up npr Midnightwalk Dec 2019 #62
The "If I talk loud and fast I'll sound smart... 3catwoman3 Dec 2019 #63
+1000 dewsgirl Dec 2019 #64
Prof. Feldman is very clear and concise. CapnSteve Dec 2019 #65
Feldman is giving an excellent history lesson about the origin of impeachment in the Constitution BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #66
I love that he is underlining the reasoning of impeachment being necessary; crickets Dec 2019 #74
Exactly. This needs to be emphasized for our system and for the world to see our system in action. BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #89
Collins has a seminary degree. Yeah, man of god he is. badhair77 Dec 2019 #67
This testimony by the Law Professor is so informative. riversedge Dec 2019 #68
Clearly spoken with the high ring of Truth. ancianita Dec 2019 #72
This first opening statement is fascinating. Mike 03 Dec 2019 #73
Moving. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #81
Just tuned in. Thanks for the play by play all backtoblue Dec 2019 #105
She was great, so was Feldman. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #109
Feldman enumerating three counts that constitute high crimes and misdemeanors Mersky Dec 2019 #75
Kelly Armstrong (R-ND) put in a motion BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #76
Is this the third or fourth interruptive parliamentary tactic Mersky Dec 2019 #86
It's being done on purpose BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #94
Republicans abuse parliamentary rules to obstruct the Judiciary Committee process. ancianita Dec 2019 #77
Clear definition of high crimes and misdemeanors - Feldman is really good! crickets Dec 2019 #78
Thanks will read later nt Midnightwalk Dec 2019 #82
The Republicans are shooting themselves in the face C_U_L8R Dec 2019 #79
It really does, but they have an audience of one. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #84
I just cannot understand how so many found it so easy to ditch any particle of principle they may chia Dec 2019 #119
I think they all have they're all covered in dirty rubles. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #126
You are not alone. nt crickets Dec 2019 #132
Negative 1 Wawannabe Dec 2019 #135
GOP motion is now tabled. Now Pamela Karlan is up BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #80
WOW! She's taking that a'hole down! hlthe2b Dec 2019 #90
I love her arch indignation and incensed tone toward Collins. Get him, Karlan!! ancianita Dec 2019 #92
Yikes, she is a force to be reckoned with. I am so glad she called him out. crickets Dec 2019 #102
The first two speakers have smashed Collins' clown show. ancianita Dec 2019 #116
They are so embarrassing. Every motion is just a timewaster and will be tabled. crickets Dec 2019 #97
Oooo... Karlan is smacking down Sensenbrenner!! BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #83
She is good. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #88
I think they are going to need some heavy duty DEPENDS on that dais hlthe2b Dec 2019 #93
LOL BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #98
Are they walking all over Nadler? awesomerwb1 Dec 2019 #85
Me too and then Lester Holt said, they are a rowdier bunch dewsgirl Dec 2019 #96
They have been trying but he's managed to get them cut off. BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #103
The Rethuglican Tactic Bayard Dec 2019 #87
Hello Dr. Karlan! hibbing Dec 2019 #91
Damn, Pam! You go !!! C_U_L8R Dec 2019 #95
Whoa! Bayard Dec 2019 #99
She sure smacked Collins good. nt avebury Dec 2019 #101
So many good sound bites. She is amazing. Glimmer of Hope Dec 2019 #108
Video feed panned over to collins' face Mersky Dec 2019 #104
The testimony is very specific to Trump's transgressions Mike 03 Dec 2019 #100
Treason! First in the list of bullet points describing crimes the framers feared - crickets Dec 2019 #111
Karlan is just letting loose on the analogies! BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #106
Karlan done. Michael Gerhardt up. BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #107
Whoa. Great example from Kaplan! Mersky Dec 2019 #110
My first thought. Also thinking of how horribly Puerto Rico was treated. nt crickets Dec 2019 #112
Yes, is consistent with his pattern Mersky Dec 2019 #118
What a great civics lesson for those who are watching DeminPennswoods Dec 2019 #113
"Obedience to the law is demanded as a right, not asked for as a favor." crickets Dec 2019 #114
"Russia, if you are listening, BUTT... 3catwoman3 Dec 2019 #115
Here comes Jonathan Turley BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #117
I read his opening statement...he's against it. n/t Miles Archer Dec 2019 #120
Yup and he claimed that he didn't vote for Drumpf BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #122
A bit of a soft simp around the edges, and a mediocre delivery. ancianita Dec 2019 #121
Am just waiting for him to yawn Mersky Dec 2019 #127
I remember when he was a contributor PatSeg Dec 2019 #136
Gerhardt skewered Lindsey Graham by quoting his remarks regarding the guilt of Richard Nixon crickets Dec 2019 #123
Any incompletion is because of obstruction Mr Turley backtoblue Dec 2019 #124
Exactly. He ignores that there are 5 other Committees that have stuff too BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #125
Whose payroll is he on now??? Duppers Dec 2019 #130
****Live Impeachment hearing - THREAD 2**** up BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #128
Turley got the distraction role. polichick Dec 2019 #129
Lawks, another motion to call the whistleblower to testify. crickets Dec 2019 #131
Turley using similar talking points as collins Mersky Dec 2019 #133
Someone needs to read his Clinton comments back to him! hlthe2b Dec 2019 #134
Excellent context. Thank you bringing that in. Mersky Dec 2019 #137
thanks to all here -- I missed the first half hour Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #138
Nadler doesn't have the presence that Schiff does Bayard Dec 2019 #139

a kennedy

(29,663 posts)
9. I don't know what happened to him......he used to be someone I looked up to
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:10 AM
Dec 2019

what the hell happened to him???

Ghost of Tom Joad

(1,355 posts)
46. I think I remember hearing that he wanted to be
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:34 AM
Dec 2019

a Supreme Court Justice and was hoping Obama would nominate him. Didn't happen.

crickets

(25,980 posts)
4. Thanks for starting this thread.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:09 AM
Dec 2019

And the circus begins. Who is this ass who won't even let the hearing get started?

Mersky

(4,981 posts)
17. Nadler: tRump welcomed help in 2016; demanded interference in 2020
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:16 AM
Dec 2019

I paraphrased it, but was a forceful point he made.

crickets

(25,980 posts)
18. He's doing a good job of laying out the founders' fears
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:19 AM
Dec 2019

regarding foreign interference in US elections and just how compromised Trump is in soliciting that interference. He's doing much better than I expected.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
25. Mute button activated.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:22 AM
Dec 2019

Going to the kitchen for more coffee...waiting for sanity to return to the hearing.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,705 posts)
47. He must be on some very powerful stimulant.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:35 AM
Dec 2019

I muted the sound but I could still see him thrashing and flailing around like he had fire ants in his Underoos.

Mersky

(4,981 posts)
28. collins, you are 'the same sad story'
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:24 AM
Dec 2019

Of bloviating oath-breakers worried about their next two years, and not about the rule of law for the next generations.

crickets

(25,980 posts)
33. Parliamentary inquiries are in fashion again
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:25 AM
Dec 2019

and the Republicans are getting shut down, hard, when they try it.

Apologies for the current whiner from my home state pretending that we are all too stupid to understand what is going on. The mute button is everyone's friend.

BumRushDaShow

(129,020 posts)
44. Vote to table the motion from Collins to have Schiff come in to personally read a letter into
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:31 AM
Dec 2019

the record.

Mersky

(4,981 posts)
48. Bunch of time wasting junk of
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:35 AM
Dec 2019

Parliamentary acts in futility. One day they might accept that Democrats are their legitimate opposition that has the freakin majority.

crickets

(25,980 posts)
53. The only way to get past these children pretending not to understand the rules
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:36 AM
Dec 2019

is to gavel and keep going, and I'm glad Nadler has figured this out early. I wish he were a little more forceful about it, but at least he is eventually shutting up the disruptors.

a kennedy

(29,663 posts)
61. I just want Chairman Nadler to be in control......don't want the Repubs to
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:42 AM
Dec 2019

get under his skin.....he needs to be in control without looking like a bully. Stay calm, be strict to the house rules, don’r come across as a meanie. JMHO.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
62. Shut up npr
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:43 AM
Dec 2019

Stuck in a car so listening on npr. They keep breaking in with commentary talking over the representatives. Very annoying

3catwoman3

(23,993 posts)
63. The "If I talk loud and fast I'll sound smart...
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:43 AM
Dec 2019

...and convincing" fantasy. It ain't workin', boys.

What a bunch of rude, no class bastards.

crickets

(25,980 posts)
74. I love that he is underlining the reasoning of impeachment being necessary;
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:48 AM
Dec 2019

that simply being up for reelection is not enough - the important point being that the president cannot be above the law: a corrupt president might be fatal to the republic. This fellow is good.

badhair77

(4,218 posts)
67. Collins has a seminary degree. Yeah, man of god he is.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:45 AM
Dec 2019

He must have been absent when they covered the commandment about bearing false witness.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
73. This first opening statement is fascinating.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:48 AM
Dec 2019

It is so relevant to what we're dealing with. Abuse of power could prove "fatal to the Republic." (I want to print this statement out.) Really powerful. So much respect for our Founders.

Mersky

(4,981 posts)
86. Is this the third or fourth interruptive parliamentary tactic
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:54 AM
Dec 2019

That goes nowhere? Two of which that were out-of-order, broken repug attempts at running down the clock?

I shoulda started a spreadsheet for tallying the numbers on just how poorly repugs on the committee understand how these proceedings actually work.

BumRushDaShow

(129,020 posts)
94. It's being done on purpose
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:55 AM
Dec 2019

But eventually even disinterested people will see how childish they are acting.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
79. The Republicans are shooting themselves in the face
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:52 AM
Dec 2019

Their obstruction is clear for all to see. It looks desperate... even criminal.

chia

(2,244 posts)
119. I just cannot understand how so many found it so easy to ditch any particle of principle they may
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:12 PM
Dec 2019

have owned to abase themselves before the nation for an audience of one. It's flabbergasting. I could explain it via various socio-psychological models but I can never understand it.

crickets

(25,980 posts)
102. Yikes, she is a force to be reckoned with. I am so glad she called him out.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:59 AM
Dec 2019

He was insulting to each citizen of this country with his statement. He deserves every syllable of derision from her.

crickets

(25,980 posts)
97. They are so embarrassing. Every motion is just a timewaster and will be tabled.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:56 AM
Dec 2019

Every time they force a voice vote on tabling, the outcome will be the same. It's a travesty.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
96. Me too and then Lester Holt said, they are a rowdier bunch
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:56 AM
Dec 2019

and I was really worried... still kind of am.😳

BumRushDaShow

(129,020 posts)
103. They have been trying but he's managed to get them cut off.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:59 AM
Dec 2019

I think some of the problem here is that he is good friends with Collins and this ends up impacting keeping the zoo animals controlled.

Bayard

(22,075 posts)
99. Whoa!
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:56 AM
Dec 2019

Prof. Karlan is on fire! She's pissed that thug's opening statement said they would be ignoring facts. And she's on a roll now.

Mersky

(4,981 posts)
104. Video feed panned over to collins' face
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:59 AM
Dec 2019

Lol. Am gonna have to review that bit. I got a good deal of satisfaction of her calling out his BS.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
100. The testimony is very specific to Trump's transgressions
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:57 AM
Dec 2019

It's not a general ideological debate about Impeachment that we're seeing. These witnesses have a complete grasp of the facts and are not shy about expressing their opinions. Testimony so far is fierce and riveting.

crickets

(25,980 posts)
111. Treason! First in the list of bullet points describing crimes the framers feared -
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:04 PM
Dec 2019

and she is not backing down on claiming it as one Trump has committed. Yowsa.

Mersky

(4,981 posts)
110. Whoa. Great example from Kaplan!
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:04 PM
Dec 2019

Asking what would happen if a president asked the governor of a state like Texas facing a devastating hurricane disaster for political favors in exchange for federal recovery assistance.

___

I'm thinking it could be argued this has roughly already happened in the case of the fires in California.

Mersky

(4,981 posts)
118. Yes, is consistent with his pattern
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:12 PM
Dec 2019

Of political favoritism in exchange for him, eh, giving a flying you-know-what about American peoples facing disaster.

crickets

(25,980 posts)
114. "Obedience to the law is demanded as a right, not asked for as a favor."
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:08 PM
Dec 2019

These witnesses are pulling no punches.

Mersky

(4,981 posts)
127. Am just waiting for him to yawn
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:19 PM
Dec 2019

WTH happened to him? Has he been spending a lot of time around barr? Imo, his speaking demeanor and meter is rather similar to barr. Is speculation on my part, but has he been coached by the same people?

PatSeg

(47,455 posts)
136. I remember when he was a contributor
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:34 PM
Dec 2019

on Keith Olbermann's show and he was rather impressive. Then he did a turn around and started to sound like a conservative ideologue and you never saw him on MSNBC anymore. Apparently he is a contributor to CBS.

crickets

(25,980 posts)
123. Gerhardt skewered Lindsey Graham by quoting his remarks regarding the guilt of Richard Nixon
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:15 PM
Dec 2019

for obstructing the Watergate investigation. Good man for getting that on the record.

crickets

(25,980 posts)
131. Lawks, another motion to call the whistleblower to testify.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:22 PM
Dec 2019


They truly have nothing but obfuscation and noisemaking.

Mersky

(4,981 posts)
133. Turley using similar talking points as collins
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:24 PM
Dec 2019

When he went on about everyone being mad, including his dog.

I get that the opposition needs an argument against impeachment, but I sure wish he'd have brought original material.

(My autocorrect wants to change Turley to Turkey, and I'm tending to agree with it.)

hlthe2b

(102,279 posts)
134. Someone needs to read his Clinton comments back to him!
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:28 PM
Dec 2019

In prepared remarks in 1998, during Clinton impeachment, Turley warned: “Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a lawbreaker; it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto itself” ( h/t @Susan_Hennessey https://bit.ly/2RjmzSB )

Mersky

(4,981 posts)
137. Excellent context. Thank you bringing that in.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:35 PM
Dec 2019

Whether I’ve agreed or disagreed with him over the years, his general comportment today is weird and gross in addition to his backpedaling ‘legal’ logic.

Bayard

(22,075 posts)
139. Nadler doesn't have the presence that Schiff does
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:14 PM
Dec 2019

Not really forceful or commanding, but doing okay so far.

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