the process will be a success because it lays out how one can only arrive at one conclusion after following the process. Trump violated the law, repeatedly, And he will do it again because he is basically unable to learn from experience.

And simply rolling over and letting DJT become a dictator without even trying to stop it is unacceptable.

Has to be held in comparison to what is accomplished by doing nothing.

At best, doing nothing would be the same outcome. But I think you can argue that doing nothing would be immeasurably worse because it would bury,condone, embolden, etc.

If nothing else, I want the history books to show that we did not stand passively by while this bunch of criminals ran rampant.

ran rampant.

Hopefully history will remember the repukes. Also, Good chance it will push tweety over the edge.

Believe it or not, someone deemed this question a "right wing talking point."

and denial strategy, rather than the strategy itself.

The truth is winning, even if there are those around who can't face it.

So if you see no purpose to upholding the Constitution, then there's nothing to say. Go hide under the bed. Suck your thumb. Drink a bottle of wine. Or do whatever else you need to do to justify your apathy. The grown-ups will take it from here, understanding that action is required even if the outcome isn't guaranteed (and it never is).

I was going to say "it's about the truth, stupid".... but I didn't want to get flagged for attacking anyone. It's a saying, not an attack, and I'm not calling anyone stupid.

But this is all about getting the truth out there. If it weren't for the hearings, we wouldn't have heard 12 first hand accounts of what went on. We wouldn't have the gop tied in knots parroting russian talking points. The american people wouldn't be seeing anything the gop wurlitzer doesn't want them to.

So yeah, it matters. Your right wing talking points don't though. Concern trolling is still trolling.

Nice post!

I was simply raising a concern. But thanks for reminding me, again, why I post so rarely here.

even if trump is not removed from office.

Voters are receiving an education about the actions of this administration.
At least some of the voters will become more alert and hopefully better voters.

Find myself, after waiting so long, getting strangely depressed over this. I'll focus on these thoughts.

given that voting in overwhelming numbers is our last hope.

They are carrying out the Constitutionally mandated procedure necessary to respond to the lawlessness and brazen actions of the *president.
This is not optional to a body that is governed by the oath of office, respect for our system of government and obligation to the voters who put them in their positions.
I am very proud to be a Democrat, and proud of the people who represent us in Congress.

Having said that, there are Trump voters that have changed their mind and some that are on the fence. Even if it is just a few, there is t he possibility that some will be disgusted by what the Rethuglicans are doing and just might vote Dem for a change. You never know until you try.

Everyone knows the Senate is never going to come close to the votes needed to remove him. The play is to hopefully piss people off enough independents to come out against Republicans. The downside with independents is the risk that they will view Trump as cleared by not being removed from office or will look at this as more red vs blue business as usual in Washington.

What the ultimate impact will be we really don't know. We won't really know for sure until after the election next year.

intended to influence the next election. If that were true, it would be as reprehensible as what Trump did.

This is necessary to uphold the Constitutional duty of Congress, to protect our democracy and our national security, and to check the abuse of power of a rogue executive. Whatever the consequences in the Republican Senate.

To suggest this is a turnout strategy is not only to degrade the seriousness of the matter, but to invalidate it for all time. I’m shocked.

what was hoped. You can read about impeachment and removal in the constitution, it's about as long as a description on a menu for an entree; procedural details are the province of the current house, but the purpose is very brief and clear.

As for what it might have accomplished for you personally as a citizen, all I can suggest is listen to it, especially the witnesses for the Democrats who explain everything extremely well. They're explaining our democracy and trying to make the people understand its principles, its importance to them, and that their lives as citizens are at risk.

I'm convinced of #Traitor's guilt so I didn't need any more info but if they've lost the interest of this news/political junkie, I'd say the issue is dead.

Vote on the articles and sit on them. Keep investigating. Only when Dems have the tax returns and more info for the obstruction charge, then maybe send it to the Senate.

... money Americans can support putting all they azzes in jail.

And it has only started.

They are making statements (Gaetz wanting to retroactively impeach Obama, e.g.) that will be preserved for decades as some of the most stupid things ever said by a sitting member of our government. And now they can be replayed over and over again on youtube.

And all this right before a presidential campaign begins.

Yeah, I'd say it matters.