to relieve pain.

...at abuse of power than Donald Trump. The man's been dead nearly fifty years and we're JUST finding out about this stuff?

Meanwhile, Trump was busted red-handed. It's the ONLY reason Ukraine got their money when it did.

that's all they have.

...and assume all that stuff is true, it still doesn't help the GOP argument.

I mean, "that other guy got away with it, so why shouldn't I?"

Because you got caught, asshole.

I had no idea he use to dig up info on congress and senate and threaten them to get them to vote his way.

I am grateful for things he got passed but hate his methods.

...especially if the point was just to dirty Goldwater up, rather than actually finding something illegal.

and brought up Turley's political affiliation.

heh!

There have been witnesses subpoenaed.

sent by God..

...."I'm now going to ask for a quid pro quo"?

Am I getting that right?

It's pretty much down to, "hey tRUMP didn't torch his house or beat his wife."

They've just been ordered not to testify, or we'd have heard from them by now.

trying to say that Congress itself was an abuse of power.

wants to amend the Constitution before he'll agree.
No, our national security is as risk and we don't have "time to do it" (go through the courts)

His own words being used against him is so sweet.

Fucking brilliant.

Questioned Turley and called him on his bullshit? These weak-ass talking points have to be countered, or they will stand.

Shit taco stupid. "Blah, country, blah, American people, blah, (let me giggle because I am in way over my head).

is supposed to be about.

This hearing IS for finding the charges. They don't come in there with "charges". But then she was born 2 years after Watergate.

She doesn't seem to understand what the heck their role is and merely spews GOP talking points.

Are the republicans really this dumb? Or is it all an act?

I can't decide.

Fox News and talk radio. It’s as simple as that.

Link to tweet

While the rhetoric was sound and it made some of us feel good, that did kinda cross a line...

There was nothing derogatory said about that boy, and nothing to "drag" him into impeachment.

Best to leave him out of it, methinks.

Now, Don Jr. or that idiot Eric? Rip those assholes a new one...!!

Multiple contacts and communications to Ukrainian officials including tRump's July 25 call over those months. Do this, do this, do this for months. That the putting up the appearance of an investigation into tRump's #1 political opponent's family never occurred, does not take away the months of building desperation and defining what tRump wanted from Ukraine.

It isn't just bribery. It is cartoonishly over-the-top, I'd say, aggravated bribery (extortion). Ridiculous, thwarting Congress's power of the purse, bribery. Overriding the defense dept's role bribery. Abject abuse of power bribery.

I don't want to hear one more argument from another republican that tRump wasn't bribing another country to benefit his reelection campaign.

She is calling it like she sees it.

To hold these hysterical GOP drama queens (with apologies to queens) in any comparison to the erudite, dedicated, uncorrupted women they’re shouting at is insane.

He's got Gymsuit vibes.

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Foreign governments are a worse threat today than in the Founders' day.

AND we've GOT the EVIDENCE of suborning that: the transcript, two fact witnesses testimony under oath, admission by the president himself.

And the will of The People WILL prevail.

"America must remain the last, best hope on Earth."

OT: thanks for wrangling, BRTS

in a sea of lying snakes.

This clown is despicable.

when asked about why she gave more to one D candidate then the other.

What a fucking disgrace. But the line from Karlan about more poor people was very well played.

I sensed he would be too ritual and polite.

too close to Collins and is deferring...

What business is it of ours who Karlan supports or sends money to? It does not even relate to this. So inappropriate.

Their staffers don’t do research, people like Gaetz just repeat what’s reported in their world. He’ll be on Hannity tonight I’m guessing.

The term is used by Alcoholics Anonymous in relation to feelings of anger, depression and resentment.[4]

A dry drunk can be described as a person who refrains from alcohol or drugs, but still has all the unresolved emotional and psychological issues which might have fueled the addiction to begin with. These unresolved issues continue to have a hold on their psyche and hence, they act like "dry drunks."[5] In most cases, alcohol dependency is a substantial factor in the lives of the alcoholics and accepting sobriety comes with its own challenges and understanding of their personality. Despite leaving alcohol and de-addicting themselves, most of their personalities are an embodiment of their drunkard selves.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_drunk

Correcting the "no first hand evidence" nonsense.

Cicilline's best point.

What was that all about from Gaetz?

He's a little too passive and the GOP will push him around if he lets them... and he kinda is.

undermine our elections.

And Karlan reminds them that she has a 1st amendment right to give money to candidates.

I think when a witness is grossly wronged the next Democrat up should sacrifice a couple minutes to help them.

whining about process.

(Corrected party designation - MFGsunny)

Am typing on a portable bluetooth keyboard for my convertible laptop so the keys are funky for me.

That's not pertinent to the the facts of what Trump did.
Obfuscation - other logical fallicies. I'm not well versed in those, but I'd bet the Republicans have used all of them in today's hearing.

have created the toxic atmosphere - pure projection!
Remember Benghazi.

Definitely a whole lot of projection going on here.

I would ask, do any of you have any evidence that the President is innocent? Cause everything you are saying it has nothing to do with what he did.

Great idea!

Have any of the Dems mentioned how many subpoenas have been ignored? Isn't that relevant?

Going after Turley.

for eye-hand coordination. I'm really improving my speed on hitting the mute button when a repuke starts in. I try giving each one a chance, but each one disappoints with stupidity, cupidity, rudeness. How were they vetted to even run for election? What a bunch of loser hacks.

as he refers to democrats as "the democrat party"....
and is complaining about the erosion of trust in American institutions that Trump has worked hard to destroy.

Cult members have no self-awareness.

just trying to divide people. that is all the R's are doing

so tired of their complete bs

This should be good.

and how the Senate rejected his argument about nothing being impeachable.

it's annoying.

between what is broadcast on a separate feed and what you might hear from the mics in the room before the pool feed switches.

and thanks for all the threads BumRuchDaShow!

As I understand, CSPAN has 7 cameras in there for the feeds (which are probably for the pool). They normally only have 3 for regular hearings.